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Post by insertname on Jan 5, 2023 20:17:44 GMT
Why else have Millwall kept him for as long as they have? He keeps getting back in to the first team, at times despite a lack of goals
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Post by talyfan on Jan 5, 2023 20:21:07 GMT
Convenience for them I'd have thought. Squad players still have important roles. Difficult to find a player whose willing not to be a starter but can still chip in when called upon. I'd probably question why he's still there to be honest and not gone to look to get more minutes.
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Post by insertname on Jan 5, 2023 20:29:30 GMT
I’m surprised he’s not been sent on loan by Millwall to league one or wherever, but as said above when I edited my previous response- he keeps getting back in the side and still gets a few goals.
I guess it’s hard to know what his own motivations are at this point. Probably knows he’s got no international ambitions to aim for so first team football to make the Wales squad is less of a consideration. At his age he might be quite happy with the money at Millwall and his family settled in the area after that amount of time there etc.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 5, 2023 20:36:34 GMT
Millwall are in the play off places, they're doing really well, I think that's enough motivation to stay there and be part of it.
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Post by cadno on Jan 6, 2023 11:37:06 GMT
He hasn't started consistently for Milwall, quite the opposite in fact. Even when fit. Can't say I've watched him play that much, but I've always had the impression he's much more of a poacher than an all-rounder. Please don't tell me you're basing this assessment of his all-round game solely on that 20-min cameo in a friendly against Ukraine, a performance that was massively exaggerated at the time imo Pretty sure from what I can see he’s started every champ game bar 2 this season. But fair enough over the last few seasons he’s started less games than I thought, but he has appeared a lot. No I’m not basing it on the Ukraine game alone haha, I’ve seen him play a few times over the years for Millwall! Think Simon church or Mark Harris in terms of running channels/holding up… but possibly a bit better in front of goal!
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Post by insertname on Jan 6, 2023 11:50:19 GMT
I don’t think there’s any possibly about it! Harris, already 24 iirc, would do very well to have 27 goals in 118 at Bradshaw’s age because he’s showing no signs of that right now.
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Post by rushy on Jan 6, 2023 18:12:18 GMT
Just to give Harris a bit of leeway, in the games I've seen Cardiff they played him as a lone striker , and created very little chances.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 6, 2023 18:19:49 GMT
I don't really view Harris as a striker, I don't really know what he is but he doesn't appear to have a strikers instinct, not at Championship level, he's just a nuisance type.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 21, 2023 15:58:18 GMT
Scores today against Cardiff
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 29, 2023 14:40:45 GMT
Didn't know he was Welsh medium educated
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Post by cadno on Feb 14, 2023 9:32:08 GMT
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Post by rushy on Feb 18, 2023 14:22:09 GMT
Today's hat trick against Sheff Utd should mean a call up , simple.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Feb 18, 2023 14:42:01 GMT
Has to be in now. No excuses after that.
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Post by welwyn on Feb 18, 2023 14:48:05 GMT
Johnson, Wilson, Bradshaw, Moore, Collins, James, Ramsey and Mullin should be the attacking minded players in the next squad.
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Post by jbt95 on Feb 18, 2023 15:25:44 GMT
We really should be looking at every avenue now, the World Cup showed we can’t just pick players on their name alone. Minutes on the pitch count and them putting the ball in the net should be called up.
I’m not convinced we need to build for the future either. All we should be focused on right now is qualifying for Germany. Bradshaw needs to be in the squad.
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 18, 2023 15:25:55 GMT
Wow! He's scored a hat-trick against one of the best sides in the league with international defenders, that can't be ignored.
6 goals in 7 league games in 2023
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 18, 2023 15:27:52 GMT
We really should be looking at every avenue now, the World Cup showed we can’t just pick players on their name alone. Minutes on the pitch count and them putting the ball in the net should be called up. I’m not convinced we need to build for the future either. All we should be focused on right now is qualifying for Germany. Absolutely. We can do both but the focus has to be on moving forward rather than just forward planning, it's fine doing that if you're rubbish but we've just qualified for back to back tournaments, climbed the Nations League briefly and we need to keep this train going.
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Post by jbt95 on Feb 18, 2023 15:49:31 GMT
Yeah but we can’t be rejecting players because they are not under 25. Just call up anybody and qualify for the Euros. No more ‘Bales’ jibes etc is what we need from 2023.
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 18, 2023 16:00:30 GMT
Players often peak around 27-31, players are playing on for longer now and looking after themselves more so what we're seeing is more experienced players still having peak conditioning, if anything the likes of Bradshaw and Mullon have never been more ready for a call up.
We've got a number of strikers scoring and assisting, I can't remember the last time we had this.
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Post by iot on Feb 18, 2023 16:10:01 GMT
I wouldn't mind if he did get a call-up. All I'll say is I think we're in trouble if we're relying on the likes of Bradshaw to get us through to tournaments. That said, it's probably just the situation we now find ourselves in. Bale's retired, Moore's gone completely off the boil for Bournemouth (don't think he's scored since October and has been relegated to the bench recently), leaving Johnson as the only goal-scoring forward (Wilson's never been very productive for us). So we probably do need to look at one or two of Bradshaw/Collins/Mullin (probably in that order) - I just think they're all very mediocre options when it comes to competing with Croatia and Turkey and unlikely to have much of an impact!
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Post by insertname on Feb 18, 2023 16:35:13 GMT
It’s maybe a bit unfair to judge Moore purely on his goalscoring as he is very much a target man that makes things happen for others due to his all round play, which is very bloody good the times I’ve seen him play in the prem. He happens to (usually) have a decent goal return in recent years since playing for Wales.
This season has been tricky for him but like I said the times I’ve seen him he’s played well when Bournemouth have lost and it always seems to be the way that Bournemouth get results when he isn’t in the team so it doesn’t surprise me that their latest bad run resulted in Moore being dropped, it doesn’t feel like a reflection on his ability although yes he hasn’t scored for months (probably against Tottenham was his last goals).
As for the others you’re right that it’s not great but then it’s not surprising given our resources. Obviously Bale was reasonably prolific but he wasn’t a goalscorer- who was our last prolific out and out striker at international level? You probably have to go all the way back to Ian Rush! We haven’t had a decent number 9 for generations, we just don’t seem to produce them so having to pick from Bradshaw, Mullin and Collins feels like business as usual really. The one thing that must happen is that at least one of them is given a chance because the worry has to be that Page will continue to sit on his hands and pick the likes of Matondo and Harris, players he is used to working with, to score goals. That intransigence can’t go on, things need freshening up.
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Post by llyn on Feb 18, 2023 16:42:28 GMT
If we have 4-5 forwards in the next squad Bradshaw has to be picked. He's an experienced Welsh forward scoring regularly in a top tier. Please can we now pick in form players who are playing week in week out (and I don't mean Conference League players). The clubs are where players should develop not the Welsh national team/squad.
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Post by jimexotic on Feb 18, 2023 16:53:31 GMT
Moore Brennan Bradshaw Collins Mullin
Roberts, Harris and....well that's it, don't deserve a call up even if everyone was injured, they need to be playing and playing well, can't be picking players that are doing nothing in the Championship.
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Post by cadno on Feb 18, 2023 18:30:49 GMT
His second hat trick this season. Deserves a call up , put quality around him he knows where the back of the net is. Mental if he doesn’t get a chance now.
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Post by surge on Feb 19, 2023 10:12:49 GMT
Looking at the DS post within Paul Mullin thread and specifically this quote: "Players as per normal are told roughly during the 1st week of March for matches played in that month."
Millwall have three games left before March: Burnely (h), Stoke (a), Luton (h). Those three teams are going to be a test but if Bradshaw comes through well enough, then I would expect him to get a call-up really.
My concern being that it's likely to be short-term fix and that he's scored in just 5 games out of 26 featured in this season. The variety of goals yesterday and him being trusted to play as lone striker at decent level probably outweigh those concerns.
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Post by iot on Feb 19, 2023 12:05:11 GMT
Looking at the DS post within Paul Mullin thread and specifically this quote: "Players as per normal are told roughly during the 1st week of March for matches played in that month." Millwall have three games left before March: Burnely (h), Stoke (a), Luton (h). Those three teams are going to be a test but if Bradshaw comes through well enough, then I would expect him to get a call-up really. My concern being that it's likely to be short-term fix and that he's scored in just 5 games out of 26 featured in this season. The variety of goals yesterday and him being trusted to play as lone striker at decent level probably outweigh those concerns. Yeah, that's a really important point. His goalscoring has always been so streaky, which has the effect of misleading casual observers who see the headlines when he scores a hattrick or gets a run of goals, but never pick up on the frequent barren spells. To score in only 5 games from 26 is a concern. But then again, we don't have many alternatives so it's probably going to be a case of needs must
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 19, 2023 12:28:02 GMT
Looking at the DS post within Paul Mullin thread and specifically this quote: "Players as per normal are told roughly during the 1st week of March for matches played in that month." Millwall have three games left before March: Burnely (h), Stoke (a), Luton (h). Those three teams are going to be a test but if Bradshaw comes through well enough, then I would expect him to get a call-up really. My concern being that it's likely to be short-term fix and that he's scored in just 5 games out of 26 featured in this season. The variety of goals yesterday and him being trusted to play as lone striker at decent level probably outweigh those concerns. Yeah, that's a really important point. His goalscoring has always been so streaky, which has the effect of misleading casual observers who see the headlines when he scores a hattrick or gets a run of goals, but never pick up on the frequent barren spells. To score in only 5 games from 26 is a concern. But then again, we don't have many alternatives so it's probably going to be a case of needs must You can balance out the fact that he's not consistent across the season with the fact that he's also scored 2 hattricks this season. It's clear he's a decent finisher if he gets opportunities. Millwall doing pretty well in the Championship, and Bradshaw now has a goal every 180 mins played (1 in 2), which is hard to ignore I was initially against calling him back up, but I have to admit I have been swayed when analysing his season as a whole. A regular Championship striker with a 1 in 2 record deserves to be in the squad, and I'd happily have him, Mullin & Collins just to see how all of them fare in an international set up
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Post by insertname on Feb 19, 2023 13:59:52 GMT
Yeah, that's a really important point. His goalscoring has always been so streaky, which has the effect of misleading casual observers who see the headlines when he scores a hattrick or gets a run of goals, but never pick up on the frequent barren spells. To score in only 5 games from 26 is a concern. But then again, we don't have many alternatives so it's probably going to be a case of needs must You can balance out the fact that he's not consistent across the season with the fact that he's also scored 2 hattricks this season. It's clear he's a decent finisher if he gets opportunities. Millwall doing pretty well in the Championship, and Bradshaw now has a goal every 180 mins played (1 in 2), which is hard to ignore I was initially against calling him back up, but I have to admit I have been swayed when analysing his season as a whole. A regular Championship striker with a 1 in 2 record deserves to be in the squad, and I'd happily have him, Mullin & Collins just to see how all of them fare in an international set up It makes more sense at this point to consider his form last season to add extra weighting. He was in the best form of his life around Christmas last year until he got injured and didn't return until the end of the season. Adding that to his goals this season he's probably done enough to warrant being looked at again. Personally I feel he's behind Mullin though due to Mullin's performances against the same championship opposition that Bradshaw scored a hat trick against whilst playing for a weaker team and for more consistent goal scoring. Collins too is in there somewhere although Bristol Rovers have problems at the moment with theories that the players have downed tools and aren't playing for Barton. This has resulted in going from a team that was scoring goals for fun with Collins at the centre of it all to him going through a drought, a drought that it seems unlikely will be rectified until the end of the season. Maybe those circumstances will push him off the radar a bit, unfortunately for him.
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Post by bale-droed on Feb 19, 2023 14:13:05 GMT
If we don’t pick players when they’ve been performing great as a squad announcement is coming then there was no point in ever creating a larger pool of players to pick from. His seasons before this one are irrelevant. He’s scoring hat-tricks in the championship it’s a no brainer.
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Post by insertname on Feb 19, 2023 14:40:16 GMT
If we don’t pick players when they’ve been performing great as a squad announcement is coming then there was no point in ever creating a larger pool of players to pick from. His seasons before this one are irrelevant. He’s scoring hat-tricks in the championship it’s a no brainer. One or two hat tricks in isolation is a pretty poor metric for a call up imo. Surely you'd want to see more consistency across a season and historically too otherwise you're basing his eligibility on one or two opponents simply having a bad day defensively.
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