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Post by robin1864 on Apr 19, 2019 23:30:53 GMT
Absolutely brilliant 😂😂😂
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Post by alarch on Apr 20, 2019 9:50:39 GMT
This is the gift that keeps giving. This is a bit like the aforementioned naked gardener being desperate to learn more about carrots. Comedy gold.
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Post by welshiron on Apr 20, 2019 10:25:41 GMT
More worrying is his lack of game time
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Post by BA Baracus on Apr 23, 2019 10:29:39 GMT
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Post by dai on Apr 23, 2019 15:21:33 GMT
Is he taking the piss of trolling now? It's a miracle he got away with this, any old fool could see that was a nazi salute. It's all a bit bizarre, including his comments of wanting to learn more about the nazi's.
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Post by conwy10 on Apr 23, 2019 22:00:57 GMT
To be fair I think we’ve all had that moment where your German friend is taking a picture, you’re waving, he’s taking forever so you put your arm over your mouth to shout and he takes it at that second. The only reason it’s a big deal is because he’s a footballer!!
But on a serious note the picture taker is German, the arm raised is the arm the Nazi’s saluted with, the hand above the lip is commonly used in the salute. The exact salute he was caught in, that he’s never heard of, is responsible for killing millions and taught in every school. He’s looking more and more of an idiot on a daily basis.
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Post by manulike on Apr 23, 2019 22:09:46 GMT
Not guilty. End of.
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Post by iot on Apr 23, 2019 22:18:02 GMT
To be fair I think we’ve all had that moment where your German friend is taking a picture, you’re waving, he’s taking forever so you put your arm over your mouth to shout and he takes it at that second. The only reason it’s a big deal is because he’s a footballer!! But on a serious note the picture taker is German, the arm raised is the arm the Nazi’s saluted with, the hand above the lip is commonly used in the salute. The exact salute he was caught in, that he’s never heard of, is responsible for killing millions and taught in every school. He’s looking more and more of an idiot on a daily basis. I don't buy his story, but just to play the devil's advocate and for the sake of accuracy - as I understand it, although it was Meyer who posted it on social media it was another person who took the photo. Also, there has been at least one photo circulated showing hennessey making a remarkably similar pose on the footie pitch when shouting at his teammates.
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Post by larslagerback on Apr 23, 2019 22:25:07 GMT
Not proven rather than not guilty.
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Post by manulike on Apr 23, 2019 22:36:38 GMT
What is it with people on here? Was it not enough that Ched Evans had his career destroyed? Do people really want a pound of flesh?
The British education system is poor. In my humble opinion, VERY poor. The intelligence of most football players is below average, at the best of times.
This was a non story from start to finish.
The man is guilty of ignorance and of being born into a sub standard education system.
MOVE ON
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Post by robin1864 on Apr 23, 2019 23:20:14 GMT
What is it with people on here? Was it not enough that Ched Evans had his career destroyed? Do people really want a pound of flesh? The British education system is poor. In my humble opinion, VERY poor. The intelligence of most football players is below average, at the best of times. This was a non story from start to finish. The man is guilty of ignorance and of being born into a sub standard education system. MOVE ON Moving on would have been very easy for many people and I'm sure it would have been forgotten about and buried quickly, but Wayne opened his pie-hole and started making noise. Every child learned about the Second World War and the Holocaust before the age of 14. Beyond that, Nazis are depicted frequently (and correctly) as bad guys in popular culture (Band of Brothers, Schindler's List, Man in the High Castle). Ignorance is a fucking ridiculous excuse from a "man of the world" who was apparently cultured, bilingual etc. He's played a blinder getting away from the FA scot-free, but now Palace and Wayne are on some half-baked, over-exaggerated damage control mission trying to big up his credentials as a fucking idiot. He should have kept his head down and got on with his job. Stop trying to defend him with "Muh british establishment, ra ra ra"; it's unbecoming of you.
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Post by conwy10 on Apr 24, 2019 6:54:32 GMT
To be fair I think we’ve all had that moment where your German friend is taking a picture, you’re waving, he’s taking forever so you put your arm over your mouth to shout and he takes it at that second. The only reason it’s a big deal is because he’s a footballer!! But on a serious note the picture taker is German, the arm raised is the arm the Nazi’s saluted with, the hand above the lip is commonly used in the salute. The exact salute he was caught in, that he’s never heard of, is responsible for killing millions and taught in every school. He’s looking more and more of an idiot on a daily basis. I don't buy his story, but just to play the devil's advocate and for the sake of accuracy - as I understand it, although it was Meyer who posted it on social media it was another person who took the photo. Also, there has been at least one photo circulated showing hennessey making a remarkably similar pose on the footie pitch when shouting at his teammates. I understand the picture argument, but he wasn’t really waving at the players on the pitch, probably organising a wall and shouting them to move in a certain way with an outstretched arm. In the Instagram picture the hand around his mouth is straight, not cupping around his mouth. It’s clear what his intention was and laughable the fa fell for it.
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Post by iot on Apr 24, 2019 9:59:59 GMT
What is it with people on here? Was it not enough that Ched Evans had his career destroyed? Do people really want a pound of flesh? The British education system is poor. In my humble opinion, VERY poor. The intelligence of most football players is below average, at the best of times. This was a non story from start to finish. The man is guilty of ignorance and of being born into a sub standard education system. MOVE ON Moving on would have been very easy for many people and I'm sure it would have been forgotten about and buried quickly, but Wayne opened his pie-hole and started making noise. Every child learned about the Second World War and the Holocaust before the age of 14. Beyond that, Nazis are depicted frequently (and correctly) as bad guys in popular culture (Band of Brothers, Schindler's List, Man in the High Castle). Ignorance is a fucking ridiculous excuse from a "man of the world" who was apparently cultured, bilingual etc. He's played a blinder getting away from the FA scot-free, but now Palace and Wayne are on some half-baked, over-exaggerated damage control mission trying to big up his credentials as a fucking idiot. He should have kept his head down and got on with his job. Stop trying to defend him with "Muh british establishment, ra ra ra"; it's unbecoming of you. Some of his comments have been misreported. I don't believe he ever claimed to be unaware of the nazis, rather it was specifically the nazi salute that he claims to not be aware of. Still too far-fetched for me to buy his story, but that's far more likely than to claim he'd never heard of the nazis, which I don't think even the FA would have fell for.
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Post by georgetm1 on Apr 24, 2019 12:01:07 GMT
I would love to know which schools were teaching pupils the Nazi salute. FFS I have seen him doing it at Wales games trying to get the attention of his defenders when they are lining up for a free kick. The reality is that footballers have their education stifled if they are good at the sport and this to me seems like ignorance and him trying to get the attention of the person with the camera.
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Post by alarch on Apr 24, 2019 12:10:54 GMT
I think this whole fiasco is being over-interpreted. Basically the FA were faced with a choice of labelling Hennessey a racist or a prat. Thankfully they chose the latter, but the embarrassment he's endured subsequently was inevitable, and probably deserved. I doubt very much that Hennessey is a racist - but rather a bit immature. I'm guessing that's how the FA disciplinary panel saw things, and did him a favour by not lumping him in with genuine racists.
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Post by adecolley on Apr 24, 2019 14:20:48 GMT
He's actually been doing this for several years during games - I noticed it a good 5-6 years ago. The media's narrative has focused on his comments - a godsend if you're looking for an angle - which portray him badly.
What's not been focused on is that he produced pictures of him in games doing exactly what he's been ridiculed for. Therefore, it's almost certain that the production of these was what cleared him.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Apr 24, 2019 15:00:23 GMT
Think it's time we put this story/non story to bed, the English FA have made their decision. He should concentrate on getting back in the Palace team, although he's made a fool of himself with the comments he's made, or there could be a problem come June's matches. He can brush up on his history during the summer break.
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 24, 2019 16:06:20 GMT
I'm sure heil be glad to sieg the end of it....and won't we all!
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Post by manulike on Apr 24, 2019 20:05:43 GMT
It saddens me that some on here don't understand basic principles of Natural Justice.
I was prepared to tolerate supposed Welsh football supporters regurgitating the vile that they got fed by the English press BEFORE the hearing. However, I am not happy to just sit on my hands when an obviously innocent man is still being tarnished after said hearing.
I for one, would support any fellow countryman, and defend them to the hilt. The fact that Wayne is a National treasure and a loyal servant, just makes it all the more shocking, that small minded people feel inclined to side with the English gutter press, even after he was found innocent
Finally. No. "Not proven" does NOT insinuate a lesser type of innocence.
I can only hope that he does not read these sad posts.
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Post by larslagerback on Apr 24, 2019 21:23:22 GMT
It saddens me that some on here don't understand basic principles of Natural Justice. I was prepared to tolerate supposed Welsh football supporters regurgitating the vile that they got fed by the English press BEFORE the hearing. However, I am not happy to just sit on my hands when an obviously innocent man is still being tarnished after said hearing. I for one, would support any fellow countryman, and defend them to the hilt. The fact that Wayne is a National treasure and a loyal servant, just makes it all the more shocking, that small minded people feel inclined to side with the English gutter press, even after he was found innocent Finally. No. "Not proven" does NOT insinuate a lesser type of innocence. I can only hope that he does not read these sad posts. I merely corrected your error and stated a fact. I did not infer anything from the facts of the case.
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Post by melynwy on Apr 25, 2019 7:30:35 GMT
I don’t get it. A Nazi salute does not involve putting your hand under your nose. No Nazi ever did that. It is a pisstake, a reference to Hitler’s moustache, and essentially an anti-Nazi salute.
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Post by conwy10 on Apr 25, 2019 10:49:58 GMT
I don’t get it. A Nazi salute does not involve putting your hand under your nose. No Nazi ever did that. It is a pisstake, a reference to Hitler’s moustache, and essentially an anti-Nazi salute. I thought it was, Bosnich did that to Tottenham fans in a match. I remember that was treated as a Nazi salute.
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Post by Counting Crows on Apr 25, 2019 12:24:02 GMT
I don’t get it. A Nazi salute does not involve putting your hand under your nose. No Nazi ever did that. It is a pisstake, a reference to Hitler’s moustache, and essentially an anti-Nazi salute. You beat me to it. I've just finished watching "WWII In Colour" on Netflix. Plenty of salutes. Zero involving a hand under the nose. Plus, every other factual programme about WWII depicts the salute without the hand under the nose. Now, if you watch Fawlty Towers..... (or any other satirical programme from yesterday-decade)… Either way, I look forward to him being pulled-up again the next time he does it during a football match. Croatia away perhaps... (I'm of course being sarcastic).
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Post by alarch on Apr 25, 2019 16:36:24 GMT
This is becoming ridiculous. It's insulting to mine and everybody else's intelligence to suggest that we're not capable of forming our own opinion on the clear as day evidence. If people want to believe that the gesture was completely accidental that's fine, but that's rather naïve in my opinion. The Nazi salute with the hand under the mouth alluding to Hitler's mustache is a well-known phenomenon - which doesn't necessarily carry any racist intent, just the sort of pratish thing that lads get up to together. You only have to cast your mind back to the antics that Ledley and Hennessey got up to in camp during the Euros 2016 to realise that Hennessey is a bit of a lad. Nothing sinister, just a bit immature. Over-defending Hennessey makes things worse than they need be.
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Post by alarch on Apr 25, 2019 16:42:21 GMT
He's actually been doing this for several years during games - I noticed it a good 5-6 years ago. The media's narrative has focused on his comments - a godsend if you're looking for an angle - which portray him badly. What's not been focused on is that he produced pictures of him in games doing exactly what he's been ridiculed for. Therefore, it's almost certain that the production of these was what cleared him. So perhaps Hennessey's been getting away with Nazi salutes all these years, because he's an out-and-out racist, and no one realised? Or then again perhaps not. Are we really saying that he's become such a creature of habit that he reflexively gives a stiff-armed salute with hand over the mouth in all sorts of social situations?
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Post by georgetm1 on Apr 25, 2019 16:45:22 GMT
This is becoming ridiculous. It's insulting to mine and everybody else's intelligence to suggest that we're not capable of forming our own opinion on the clear as day evidence. If people want to believe that the gesture was completely accidental that's fine, but that's rather naïve in my opinion. The Nazi salute with the hand under the mouth alluding to Hitler's mustache is a well-known phenomenon - which doesn't necessarily carry any racist intent, just the sort of pratish thing that lads get up to together. You only have to cast your mind back to the antics that Ledley and Hennessey got up to in camp during the Euros 2016 to realise that Hennessey is a bit of a lad. Nothing sinister, just a bit immature. Over-defending Hennessey makes things worse than they need be. I only knew about that Hitler tache thing because I saw it on an episode of Fawlty Towers when I was a kid. I wouldn't have known what it meant otherwise because it was an English thing. It wasn't a regular thing where I was brought up and we weren't obsessed by the war like across the border. By the way, you are dismissing the evidence that shows that he has done it while playing football. I have seen him do it at Wales matches first hand and it definitely wasn't him doing the Hitler salute. The guy is ignorant and that's why the English FA found him not guilty.
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Post by alarch on Apr 25, 2019 19:01:43 GMT
If that's so, then I think it's more embarrassing that he knows nothing about the Nazis than that he's just done something pratish.
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Post by Counting Crows on Apr 26, 2019 13:15:47 GMT
If that's so, then I think it's more embarrassing that he knows nothing about the Nazis than that he's just done something pratish. It is indeed embarrassing. But then I've been told it's embarrassing that I've never played Candy Crush or that I don't know who Arian Grande is...
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Post by robin1864 on Aug 19, 2019 19:54:41 GMT
Whilst we've all been applauding Wilson, Bale & James, it's worrying that none of our keepers are playing first team football anymore.
Hennessey is out of favour at Palace, Ward will only ever play Carabao cup games, Davies is a Butland back-up & Maxwell is warming the bench at Hibs.
Has our goalkeeping situation before a qualifier looked so bleak before?
Looking toward the future, do we have any promising youngsters coming up?
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Post by gimli on Aug 19, 2019 21:10:25 GMT
Looking toward the future, do we have any promising youngsters coming up? George Ratcliffe, 18 year old at Cardiff City, won the academy player of the year award last season. But that's not really saying much seeing as the academy hasn't produced a quality player since Rambo over 10 years ago... Ratcliffe is on loan at Barry Town for the season, so I can't see him making any impact at international level for quite a while, if at all. So yeah, it's looking quite bleak on the goalkeeper front unless some dual-qualified player pops up. The way Danny Ward's career is going is really disappointing. He wasted far too many seasons in the Liverpool reserves. He's 26 now and only has 72 first team appearances in the league, with no prospect of making any more any time soon. Surely he must feel like he's wasting his career?
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