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Post by Tim P on May 4, 2010 9:43:20 GMT
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Post by saints19 on May 5, 2010 22:49:57 GMT
It could very well be with us.
Disappointing that his career has gone so downhill, but he's young at least.
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Post by Tim P on Aug 5, 2010 19:03:51 GMT
wow. this man is an absolute fool.
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Post by cymroircarn on Aug 5, 2010 21:20:11 GMT
What's he done now? Used to rate him as a player but he's a rubbish manager and pundit.
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Post by Tim P on Aug 5, 2010 22:12:17 GMT
i watched the liverpool game on itv4. within fifteen minutes he had spouted just about every single populist tabloid garbage footie opinion possible.
no elite footballer could ever take him seriously as a manager/coach. waste of time.
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Post by llannerch on Aug 6, 2010 12:09:14 GMT
When he came on against Germany for his last cap is one of my top 10 watching Wales memories.
Doesn't mean he isn't a wally though....
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Post by caradocevans on Aug 6, 2010 15:07:50 GMT
He was a dreadful pundit during the World Cup. One of the worst ever. Did he do the Liverpool game? Thank god I don't follow a plastic team.
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Post by cymru on Aug 6, 2010 17:27:12 GMT
He was quite shocking as a pundit at the World Cup, and even referred to England as "we" before having to correct himself to say "you" soon after.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 17, 2010 15:14:53 GMT
news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/wales/8298938.stmHow depressingly negative is he here on the Sport Wales preview? 'I have to say I'm sceptical'- yeah, well most of us fans are pretty sceptical about you Chris. We've had enough of managers who constantly make excuses and never really show much belief in the players. Steve Tucker described Coleman as a 'mini Toshack' the other day and you can see what he's getting at. Contrast Coleman saying that he never wants to manage Swansea because he's from the area and it would be hard for his family if things went wrong, with Flynns attitude to taking on the job of managing his local team. Or Flynns attitude to taking on the Wales job. Talk about chalk and cheese. It really feels like he's only interested in the Wales job at all because he's out of work at the moment, which would make it a truly awful appointment fot the FAW to make.
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Post by georgetm1 on Sept 17, 2010 15:34:52 GMT
He really would be an awful appointment for Wales. Flynn is the right man for the job as he is really positive about everything. Coleman on the other hand wants to make you cut your own wrists.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Sept 17, 2010 15:53:13 GMT
The job must never go to coleman, he will bash the players confidence just as bad as tosh did. Flynn is defo the man for the job i like the way his teams play with passion and i must point out flowing fast football. Cant wait to go to the next game now.
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Post by Tim P on Sept 17, 2010 15:55:06 GMT
coleman is a joke, and not an especially funny one.
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Post by evsbech on Sept 17, 2010 18:56:45 GMT
A couple of year ago I thought he would be the next Wales manager but the more you listen to him these days he sounds more like Toshack.
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Post by saints19 on Sept 18, 2010 0:20:07 GMT
He said he was sceptical in the context of a sentence referring to the 15 pull-outs for the Croatia game. Which is a fair comment.
As I've said before, he'd not be the worst appointment, but it's right Flynn got the chance first.
By the way, positive thinking is useless on its own. Positivity has to be tempered with realism, and anyway, you all completely ignored thse several times that Coleman said 'I'm a patriotic Welshman', which in my mind is a pretty positive statement.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 18, 2010 9:15:17 GMT
I don't see repeating 'I'm a patriotic Welshman' over and over again as being a particularly positive statement. It's fairly meaningless really. After all, Max Boyce is a patriotic Welshman. You want him as next manager? And was Mike Smith a patrotic Welshman when he took us to the European championship quarter finals in 1976? (..I thought he was English)
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Post by Tim P on Sept 18, 2010 16:57:39 GMT
what kind of patriot refers to england as 'we'?
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 18, 2010 19:32:31 GMT
what kind of patriot refers to england as 'we'? Exactly! |
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Post by saints19 on Sept 19, 2010 0:07:10 GMT
I don't see repeating 'I'm a patriotic Welshman' over and over again as being a particularly positive statement. It's fairly meaningless really. After all, Max Boyce is a patriotic Welshman. You want him as next manager? And was Mike Smith a patrotic Welshman when he took us to the European championship quarter finals in 1976? (..I thought he was English) Of course it's positive. 'Patriotic' is a positive adjective with positive connotations, in contrast to something like 'nationalistic' or 'parochial' which have similar but negative or depend on context for meaning. It certainly isn't a negative statement and it's not meaningless either. If you note my above comments you will realise I said explicitly that positivity was not enough to succeed on its own. That pretty much deals with the Max Boyce comment, and the argument about Mike Smith, who was English but obviously that did not stop him succeeding. Obviously, coaching is about more than patriotism and I never said it wasn't. In fact, I said the opposite. The post was essentially a response to earlier ones which criticised Coleman for supposed negativity. For instance, georgetm wrote: This was followed with this comment by baxterboi: Then evesbech said this: All suggesting Coleman would be a negative manager. |
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Post by georgetm1 on Sept 19, 2010 11:03:07 GMT
Ok but what about the rest of the interview. he does'nt exactly fill you with hope and he gave me the impression that he would be more of a hindrance to the team in his attitude than Flynn would.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 19, 2010 16:17:09 GMT
You do get the feeling that life under Coleman would be more of the same excuses that we've had for the last 6 years. I've had enough of it frankly. Flynn doesn't make excuses- even when he loses half the under 21 team to the seniors he just gets on with it. That kind of attitude transfers to the players.
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Post by tai33stashon on Sept 19, 2010 16:30:06 GMT
coleyman is proper proud of being Great British i dnt knw what some of use beauts problems is blody good manager to not his faults them spanish are all typical foreigners cheeting and not playing the proper British way
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 19, 2010 16:39:13 GMT
Seems Johnny 'tai' Ford wants Coleman then... God help us!
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Post by llannerch on Sept 19, 2010 17:42:29 GMT
them spanish are all typical foreigners cheeting and not playing the proper British way Damn those Spaniards for not being tactically stunted and ignoring the raw, aesthetic beauty of long ball! |
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Post by saints19 on Sept 20, 2010 17:28:49 GMT
Can't beat the majesty of a football being kicked so high it pierces the clouds.....
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Post by llannerch on Sept 20, 2010 17:35:57 GMT
Can't beat the majesty of a football being kicked so high it pierces the clouds..... I remember coaching a kids team and taking them for a game at Brymbo...keeping the ball at ankle height was enough to pierce the clouds that day. |
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Post by saints19 on Sept 22, 2010 15:03:01 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 22, 2010 22:56:01 GMT
i know coleman wouldn't be a popular choice on here (myself included), but it's hard to explain really why none of us want him.
- ex premiership manager
- loyal ex international captain
- young enough to still be 'in touch' with the mentality of modern players.
- praise from mourinho(someone might need to verify this but i'm sure its there way deep in my memory banks)
i know there were ill fated spells in spain and coventry but it's all experience and all the alternatives have similar blips on their CV.we need to wake up and realise that the level of new manager we will be able to attract will likely to have had a failed spell with a championship club.
surely he is higher up the list than rush,hartson,kerr,sanchez and some of the other names mentioned on here.
obviously flynnie is the favorite on here but if its not flynn then theres not many welsh managers with premiership experience out there.
not my first choice by any stretch, but not as bad as many make out.we really could do a lot worse.
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Post by squatter1 on Oct 23, 2010 8:50:37 GMT
Fair shout there, I think this board is a little harsh on coleman.
His 'failure' at Coventry was to make them a mid table championship side. Plenty of far more experienced managers have failed to do even that (strachan for one). Sure he let himself down in spain, but who hasn't?!! He was the golden boy in his first season at fulham, lots of love from his players. Seems that most of the flak coming his way is from a comment about England being 'we' during the world cup.
Given that the job has to go to a Welshman, he's now second choice for me after Flynn, of all the candidates we could realistically expect.
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Post by yrarglwyddlucan on Oct 23, 2010 9:49:25 GMT
I don't favour Coleman but he's not as bad as some make out. He did well at Fulham despite being denied resources. He was getting things moving in Spain when he left, apparently because the club President went back on promises. That, prime facie, was a sound reason for leaving. His performance at Coventry has not been good. Coleman, I think, would not be manipulated by CCFC.
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Post by georgetm1 on Oct 23, 2010 10:06:41 GMT
He definately wouldn't take any crap from clubs regarding players.
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