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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 7, 2018 0:51:47 GMT
Came on and played well . Needed a rest as been hectic fortnight
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Post by iot on Oct 7, 2018 10:42:58 GMT
I've been quite disappointed with his impact to date given how he absolutely tore it up at Hull. He scored something like 7 in 12 there and had a few assists, but seems to be having far less influence at Derby for some reason. Plenty of time to change that though
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 8, 2018 5:39:17 GMT
I've been quite disappointed with his impact to date given how he absolutely tore it up at Hull. He scored something like 7 in 12 there and had a few assists, but seems to be having far less influence at Derby for some reason. Plenty of time to change that though He having plenty of praise and working well with a relative new team. More competition and had injury early on. I be more concerned about Lawrence who getting to look frustrated and disaplinr is more noticeable lately
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Post by alarch on Oct 8, 2018 12:40:37 GMT
I've been quite disappointed with his impact to date given how he absolutely tore it up at Hull. He scored something like 7 in 12 there and had a few assists, but seems to be having far less influence at Derby for some reason. Plenty of time to change that though He having plenty of praise and working well with a relative new team. More competition and had injury early on. I be more concerned about Lawrence who getting to look frustrated and disaplinr is more noticeable lately I've always wondered what "caveman" sounded like
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Post by zenith on Oct 9, 2018 21:44:16 GMT
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Post by manulike on Oct 9, 2018 22:28:46 GMT
Great stuff. Happy that you didn't follow the WoL lead, and omitted the spaghetti Bolognese nonsense.
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 17, 2018 9:52:12 GMT
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Post by rushlegend on Oct 18, 2018 11:40:06 GMT
Harry Wilson became the 100th capped Welsh international in the 21st century.
Useless info i know but a statistic never the less!
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Post by pendragon on Oct 18, 2018 12:07:23 GMT
I love some of the memes I've seen online commemorating that fabulous goal kick. This one's my favourite. Are we sure that his last name isn't Potter??!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 20, 2018 8:34:00 GMT
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Post by quetzal on Oct 20, 2018 16:59:29 GMT
Wilson involved in goal for Derby after 19 seconds. Sheffield United giving him loads of room. I’m enjoy this
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Post by quetzal on Oct 22, 2018 14:15:22 GMT
The cold hard truth of it is Welsh players aren't getting game time because they aren't good enough. Calvert-Lewin, Declan Rice, Ryan Sessegnon and our very own Dai Brooks play every week because they are. Out of all of our 'younger' players aside from Brooks, I'd say Lawrence was the only one 'good enough' to play PL football weekly. Harry Wilson would walk in most Premiership sides. Same with England youngster Mason Mount. Because they are with Liverpool and Chelsea Derby are benefiting. Going back to Welsh youngsters, seriously Harry Wilson would walk into a Southampton or Wolves, Watford.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 22, 2018 16:41:29 GMT
The cold hard truth of it is Welsh players aren't getting game time because they aren't good enough. Calvert-Lewin, Declan Rice, Ryan Sessegnon and our very own Dai Brooks play every week because they are. Out of all of our 'younger' players aside from Brooks, I'd say Lawrence was the only one 'good enough' to play PL football weekly. Harry Wilson would walk in most Premiership sides. Same with England youngster Mason Mount. Because they are with Liverpool and Chelsea Derby are benefiting. Going back to Welsh youngsters, seriously Harry Wilson would walk into a Southampton or Wolves, Watford. He really wouldn't, otherwise he'd be in most Premiership sides and not on loan at Derby. With Deulofeu, Elyounoussi, Diogo Jota, Adama, Helder Costa, Pereya, Will Hughes etc in his way? Ain't happening.
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Post by quetzal on Oct 22, 2018 16:47:38 GMT
Harry Wilson would walk in most Premiership sides. Same with England youngster Mason Mount. Because they are with Liverpool and Chelsea Derby are benefiting. Going back to Welsh youngsters, seriously Harry Wilson would walk into a Southampton or Wolves, Watford. He really wouldn't, otherwise he'd be in most Premiership sides and not on loan at Derby. With Deulofeu, Elyounoussi, Diogo Jota, Adama, Helder Costa, Pereya, Will Hughes etc in his way? Ain't happening. Did you see what he did for Hull last season? He’s the real deal. How many of them players could have done what he did at Old Trafford? We all know the answer
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 22, 2018 19:04:30 GMT
He really wouldn't, otherwise he'd be in most Premiership sides and not on loan at Derby. With Deulofeu, Elyounoussi, Diogo Jota, Adama, Helder Costa, Pereya, Will Hughes etc in his way? Ain't happening. Did you see what he did for Hull last season? He’s the real deal. How many of them players could have done what he did at Old Trafford? We all know the answer He is work in progress, look what he has achieved by stepping down in the division. No PL team came in for him as far as I know
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 22, 2018 23:33:04 GMT
Did you see what he did for Hull last season? He’s the real deal. How many of them players could have done what he did at Old Trafford? We all know the answer He is work in progress, look what he has achieved by stepping down in the division. No PL team came in for him as far as I know Stay back, Demon! This devout flock know that he's playing below his level and is world class!
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Post by quetzal on Oct 22, 2018 23:56:53 GMT
He is work in progress, look what he has achieved by stepping down in the division. No PL team came in for him as far as I know Stay back, Demon! This devout flock know that he's playing below his level and is world class! Hehehe You know what. You might be right about Harry not walking into the Watford team. I’m a lifelong Derby County fan so i’m a little bit bias on this one. Rose tinted spectacles and all that
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Post by pendragon on Oct 23, 2018 10:04:20 GMT
Harry Wilson would walk in most Premiership sides. Same with England youngster Mason Mount. Because they are with Liverpool and Chelsea Derby are benefiting. Going back to Welsh youngsters, seriously Harry Wilson would walk into a Southampton or Wolves, Watford. He really wouldn't, otherwise he'd be in most Premiership sides and not on loan at Derby. With Deulofeu, Elyounoussi, Diogo Jota, Adama, Helder Costa, Pereya, Will Hughes etc in his way? Ain't happening. Watching Arsenal fluff two golden free kick opportunities last night, I could only wish that Harry had been in the team! Klopp's hinted that he'll be back with Liverpool next season.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 23, 2018 10:28:13 GMT
He really wouldn't, otherwise he'd be in most Premiership sides and not on loan at Derby. With Deulofeu, Elyounoussi, Diogo Jota, Adama, Helder Costa, Pereya, Will Hughes etc in his way? Ain't happening. Watching Arsenal fluff two golden free kick opportunities last night, I could only wish that Harry had been in the team! Klopp's hinted that he'll be back with Liverpool next season. I think next season Klopp will play him in the cup competitions for Liverpool. It would be good if he gets time in the Champions League. I think if he continues to progress this season and has a good season next year, Liverpool would be in a bit of a dilemma. It would either be a case of play him, or offers would start to come in for him for regular football.
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Post by dai on Oct 23, 2018 10:56:35 GMT
Bit harsh, but I don't think Klopp rates him, and playing in cup matches isn't enough. He's good enough to become a regular for a Prem side, so needs to secure a move away after this season.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 23, 2018 11:52:40 GMT
Bit harsh, but I don't think Klopp rates him, and playing in cup matches isn't enough. He's good enough to become a regular for a Prem side, so needs to secure a move away after this season. Klopp has said Harry will be back with Liverpool next season and that he is progressing at a faster rate than expected.
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Post by dai on Oct 23, 2018 12:07:14 GMT
Bit harsh, but I don't think Klopp rates him, and playing in cup matches isn't enough. He's good enough to become a regular for a Prem side, so needs to secure a move away after this season. Klopp has said Harry will be back with Liverpool next season and that he is progressing at a faster rate than expected. Taking what he says with a pinch of salt. He was saying good things about Joe Allen as well before he was sold.
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Post by iot on Oct 23, 2018 12:43:29 GMT
Klopp has said Harry will be back with Liverpool next season and that he is progressing at a faster rate than expected. Taking what he says with a pinch of salt. He was saying good things about Joe Allen as well before he was sold. Yep, classic Klopp. Did the same with Ward too. You should read into his actions far more than his words to know what he truly thinks.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 23, 2018 13:01:01 GMT
Taking what he says with a pinch of salt. He was saying good things about Joe Allen as well before he was sold. Yep, classic Klopp. Did the same with Ward too. You should read into his actions far more than his words to know what he truly thinks. Did you believe that Allen or Ward were ever going to be consistent first team players at Liverpool? Harry is certainly more likely than both. Not saying he will, but a season in and around the Liverpool first team would be positive for his development for sure. A move to a good club after that would be the best thing for him if he isn't in the first team picture for Liverpool in my opinion.
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Oct 23, 2018 13:13:39 GMT
Putting £millions on his price tag that's all klopp is doing. they won't risk on a young lad for champions league cup maybe a reserve team in pop cup yes.
He doing well where he is and when promoted he be playing regular 🤞🤞
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Post by dai on Oct 23, 2018 13:14:38 GMT
Yep, classic Klopp. Did the same with Ward too. You should read into his actions far more than his words to know what he truly thinks. Did you believe that Allen or Ward were ever going to be consistent first team players at Liverpool? Harry is certainly more likely than both. Not saying he will, but a season in and around the Liverpool first team would be positive for his development for sure. A move to a good club after that would be the best thing for him if he isn't in the first team picture for Liverpool in my opinion. Well, when you have the likes of Jordan Henderson not only starting every game, but also captaining a Liverpool side the anything is possible. They sold Joe after having a storming Euro's and named in the team of the tournament, but yet persevered with a player who probably won't get into any top half Prem sides. Baffling. I don't think a year languishing on the bench will do much good for Wilson, time to get out there and cement a place in another team. He's 21 now, and most of our best players had nailed a team place at that age - Bale, Ramsey, B Davies, Allen - Brooks on his way. Players like Wilson have far too much potential to just be bench warmers. I will say the same when Ampadu gets to his 20's. If he isn't in the Chelsea side by 21/22, time to move on.
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Post by richierich333 on Oct 23, 2018 13:34:30 GMT
Yep, classic Klopp. Did the same with Ward too. You should read into his actions far more than his words to know what he truly thinks. Did you believe that Allen or Ward were ever going to be consistent first team players at Liverpool? Harry is certainly more likely than both. Not saying he will, but a season in and around the Liverpool first team would be positive for his development for sure. A move to a good club after that would be the best thing for him if he isn't in the first team picture for Liverpool in my opinion. The players in front of Wilson are far superior to the ones Allen had in front of him in his position. Where Wilson plays is Liverpool's strength. Allen was far more likely to make the starting XI back then, than Harry will ever be in the future IMO.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 23, 2018 13:55:07 GMT
Did you believe that Allen or Ward were ever going to be consistent first team players at Liverpool? Harry is certainly more likely than both. Not saying he will, but a season in and around the Liverpool first team would be positive for his development for sure. A move to a good club after that would be the best thing for him if he isn't in the first team picture for Liverpool in my opinion. Well, when you have the likes of Jordan Henderson not only starting every game, but also captaining a Liverpool side the anything is possible. They sold Joe after having a storming Euro's and named in the team of the tournament, but yet persevered with a player who probably won't get into any top half Prem sides. Baffling. I don't think a year languishing on the bench will do much good for Wilson, time to get out there and cement a place in another team. He's 21 now, and most of our best players had nailed a team place at that age - Bale, Ramsey, B Davies, Allen - Brooks on his way. Players like Wilson have far too much potential to just be bench warmers. I will say the same when Ampadu gets to his 20's. If he isn't in the Chelsea side by 21/22, time to move on. Honestly baffled at how many fans of the game don't rate Henderson. He's a top class holding midfielder. I've seen so many fans moan about the fact that he doesn't play the ball forward that often, as if having a ball playing CDM is the only way to move the ball forward. A lot of the time a sideways or backwards pass is the best route forward. He does so much work that goes unheralded as well. Do you honestly think that someone could captain Liverpool and England and be a a lower level Premier League player? I take your point about Wilson btw.
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Post by robin1864 on Oct 23, 2018 17:03:03 GMT
Taking what he says with a pinch of salt. He was saying good things about Joe Allen as well before he was sold. Yep, classic Klopp. Did the same with Ward too. You should read into his actions far more than his words to know what he truly thinks. Almost warrants a "IS KLOPP ANTI-WELSH?" thread.. 🤔
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Post by iot on Oct 23, 2018 17:48:52 GMT
Yep, classic Klopp. Did the same with Ward too. You should read into his actions far more than his words to know what he truly thinks. Did you believe that Allen or Ward were ever going to be consistent first team players at Liverpool? Harry is certainly more likely than both. Not saying he will, but a season in and around the Liverpool first team would be positive for his development for sure. A move to a good club after that would be the best thing for him if he isn't in the first team picture for Liverpool in my opinion. There was one point where I though Allen was certainly good enough, but his club form these past couple of seasons makes me think he perhaps wasn't as good as we all thought. I'm not completely sold on Harry Wilson and don't think he's anywhere near the level to challenge for a place in their 18 yet, given that he isn't pulling up any trees in the championship (1 goal in 8 so far).
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