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Post by cymro on Jan 17, 2016 0:00:17 GMT
from the England Supporters FAQs: "New FAQs answered: Is there any information regarding the price category splits for England’s Group game stadiums? We are pleased to advise that we have received some information regarding the category split for each of our group matches. We have not been provided with exact capacity by category, and are now unlikely to receive this before the application deadline on the 18th January, but we can provide some useful information regarding the category split. For all three matches, the largest allocations are in category 3 with approximately 50% of tickets per match in this category. This is followed by category 2 which has the next largest allocation. Both categories 1 and 4 have the smallest allocations. We would recommend that members apply for either category 2 or 3 in the first instance and then tick the box to accept a ticket in an adjacent category. This will give you the best chance of ensuring that you can access a ticket. " englandsupporters.thefa.com/p/eurofaqsI've gone cat 1 for England and Russia thinking more expensive would give me the best chance... but I may now have to re-think and change to cat 2 for these. Frustrating not knowing anything concrete though. |
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Post by doddo on Jan 17, 2016 2:07:06 GMT
I've gone cat 1 for England and Russia thinking more expensive would give me the best chance... but I may now have to re-think and change to cat 2 for these. Frustrating not knowing anything concrete though.
I was thinking along the same lines but this does make you think  although reckon cat 1 probably OK for Russia.
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 17, 2016 11:42:14 GMT
It's all a bit of a gamble!
I read on another post that approx 50% of Cat 3 tickets available.
As long as you have some purchasing history prior to this campaign I am sure people will be fine
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Post by manulike on Jan 17, 2016 12:17:52 GMT
It's all a bit of a gamble! I read on another post that approx 50% of Cat 3 tickets available. As long as you have some purchasing history prior to this campaign I am sure people will be fine I can't see the logic in going for category 1 tickets, as then even if you allow for upgrades, you can only be upgraded to cat 2! If you opt for category 2 or 3 - you have the possibility of being upgraded as well as downgraded... God only knows how this all works in practice, but that seems to be what UEFA are suggesting. Good luck everyone! |
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Post by eppingblue on Jan 17, 2016 12:37:44 GMT
It's all a bit of a gamble! I read on another post that approx 50% of Cat 3 tickets available. As long as you have some purchasing history prior to this campaign I am sure people will be fine
I think you might have got the wrong end of the stick there. Its not 50% of the category 3 tickets are available. Approx 50% of the allocation are category 3 tickets. I would imagine by now that they're massively oversubscribed in categories in 4 and 3, a bit less in 2 and 1. I've got to do my sons application later I'll see what it says.
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Post by cymro on Jan 17, 2016 12:57:27 GMT
It's all a bit of a gamble! I read on another post that approx 50% of Cat 3 tickets available. As long as you have some purchasing history prior to this campaign I am sure people will be fine I can't see the logic in going for category 1 tickets, as then even if you allow for upgrades, you can only be upgraded to cat 2! If you opt for category 2 or 3 - you have the possibility of being upgraded as well as downgraded... God only knows how this all works in practice, but that seems to be what UEFA are suggesting. Good luck everyone! I've gone to cat 2 now so that it gives me a chance in 3 categories. I hope! |
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Post by manulike on Jan 17, 2016 13:00:58 GMT
I am going Cat 2 for group games, last 16 and quarter finals.
Cat 3 Semis and Final.
Plus ticking box to allow upgrades...
I can imagine that people with a better track record (away games especially) will benefit from going Cat 3 plus ticking the box, as Cat 3 has the majority of allocation...
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Post by eppingblue on Jan 17, 2016 13:05:00 GMT
I can't see the logic in going for category 1 tickets, as then even if you allow for upgrades, you can only be upgraded to cat 2! If you opt for category 2 or 3 - you have the possibility of being upgraded as well as downgraded... God only knows how this all works in practice, but that seems to be what UEFA are suggesting. Good luck everyone! I've gone to cat 2 now so that it gives me a chance in 3 categories. I hope!
You're more likely to be upgrade to 1. Very likely to get tickets along with a big hole in the bank balance although their not too bad for the group games, its the later stages that are painful.
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Post by manulike on Jan 17, 2016 13:22:32 GMT
I've gone to cat 2 now so that it gives me a chance in 3 categories. I hope!
You're more likely to be upgrade to 1. Very likely to get tickets along with a big hole in the bank balance although their not too bad for the group games, its the later stages that are painful.
EP, have you seen the prices on the general public application portal? My brother isn't living in the UK and not a Gold Member ... They are only allowed to apply for: Cat 2 (restricted view) 80 euro - going up to 100 euro for last 16 Cat 2 105 euro - going up to 135 euro for last 16 Cat 1 (restricted view) is 185 euro... So we should count our blessings ;-) |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 17, 2016 13:28:00 GMT
It's all a bit of a gamble! I read on another post that approx 50% of Cat 3 tickets available. As long as you have some purchasing history prior to this campaign I am sure people will be fine
I think you might have got the wrong end of the stick there. Its not 50% of the category 3 tickets are available. Approx 50% of the allocation are category 3 tickets. I would imagine by now that they're massively oversubscribed in categories in 4 and 3, a bit less in 2 and 1. I've got to do my sons application later I'll see what it says.
Yup, I agree. After re-reading I hadn't made it very clear :-) |
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 17, 2016 16:35:20 GMT
I've gone to cat 2 now so that it gives me a chance in 3 categories. I hope!
You're more likely to be upgrade to 1. Very likely to get tickets along with a big hole in the bank balance although their not too bad for the group games, its the later stages that are painful.
I don't think it'll work like that. They will probably look after applications for category 2 before upgrades from category 3 (doubtful it'll get to that stage). |
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Post by eppingblue on Jan 18, 2016 9:32:53 GMT
You're more likely to be upgrade to 1. Very likely to get tickets along with a big hole in the bank balance although their not too bad for the group games, its the later stages that are painful.
I don't think it'll work like that. They will probably look after applications for category 2 before upgrades from category 3 (doubtful it'll get to that stage).
I would hope they do it the other way round with loyalty being the initial criteria. If you first choice isn't available you get your second choice. If that isn't available then of course your out. Otherwise somebody who's opted for cat 2 with limited loyalty gets preference over someone with good loyalty who's gone 3 but accepted an upgrade.
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Post by sleepy on Jan 18, 2016 10:39:36 GMT
I don't think it'll work like that. They will probably look after applications for category 2 before upgrades from category 3 (doubtful it'll get to that stage).
I would hope they do it the other way round with loyalty being the initial criteria. If you first choice isn't available you get your second choice. If that isn't available then of course your out. Otherwise somebody who's opted for cat 2 with limited loyalty gets preference over someone with good loyalty who's gone 3 but accepted an upgrade.
I think it will work as jbt has said. Eppingblue's suggestion would be my preference but i think it will be too difficult for FAW to implement. |
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Post by readingfcwelshman on Jan 18, 2016 11:16:08 GMT
Obviously we can all only speculate right now, but I would have thought eppingblue would have the right idea. It wouldn't be too difficult to implement; go down the "loyalty list", if their first choice isn't available but their second one is then give them that, and let them fill up that way. Regardless of how people applied, I'd imagine the first 500 or so would get their first choice, and after that there still wouldn't be TOO much movement for it to be an issue?
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Post by eppingblue on Jan 18, 2016 12:03:03 GMT
I would hope they do it the other way round with loyalty being the initial criteria. If you first choice isn't available you get your second choice. If that isn't available then of course your out. Otherwise somebody who's opted for cat 2 with limited loyalty gets preference over someone with good loyalty who's gone 3 but accepted an upgrade.
I think it will work as jbt has said. Eppingblue's suggestion would be my preference but i think it will be too difficult for FAW to implement.
I'll be screwed if it doesn't go that way. I went cat 4 thinking I'll just get upgraded if I don't make it. I got a Bosnia ticket in the second phase so I thought I ought to be ok for cat 3 but might as well give cat 4 ago - nothing to lose. My own fault for being such a tight arse. Just went on the site to try and change but couldn't log on so that's probably that.
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Post by sleepy on Jan 18, 2016 12:07:44 GMT
I think it will work as jbt has said. Eppingblue's suggestion would be my preference but i think it will be too difficult for FAW to implement.
I'll be screwed if it doesn't go that way. I went cat 4 thinking I'll just get upgraded if I don't make it. I got a Bosnia ticket in the second phase so I thought I ought to be ok for cat 3 but might as well give cat 4 ago - nothing to lose. My own fault for being such a tight arse. Just went on the site to try and change but couldn't log on so that's probably that.
I know it's a tough one and all guess work, but at least you know you're pretty much in the top 750. I hope they'll do it as you suggest too, i.e. go on loyalty first. |
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Post by trevorcloud on Jan 18, 2016 12:12:04 GMT
I'm sure I've read that it's the FAW who will be deciding who gets what once the numbers are in? Nothing any of us can do about it now anyway, just got to wait and see!
Personally, I'm more worried about a huge foreign payment going through on my credit card within a couple weeks of getting it. Might just be my paranoia... which seems endemic on these threads!
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Post by manulike on Jan 18, 2016 13:17:07 GMT
Lads, Not all is lost. If you are really worried and would like the guarantee of category 2 tickets (even a Cat 3 ticket for the England game) - just go to the MAIN site, that is open to all = HERECategory 3 (restricted view) for England game is 40 Euro Category 2 (restricted view) for other games are 85 Euro Regular Category 2 tickets are 105 Euro. You could always re-sell these to other Welsh fans here on our site! This lottery area only CLOSES ON 1 FEBRUARY! |
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Post by sleepy on Jan 18, 2016 13:24:57 GMT
Lads, If you are really worried and would like the guarantee of category 2 tickets It's not guaranteed that you get a ticket though is it? You are only entering a ballot for these tickets (which if you get, would be guaranteed to be category 2) |
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Post by manulike on Jan 18, 2016 13:26:37 GMT
Yes, but it surely adds a bit of peace of mind.
Two tickets in a lottery are better than one ;-)
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Post by helipad138 on Jan 18, 2016 13:29:47 GMT
Lads, Not all is lost. If you are really worried and would like the guarantee of category 2 tickets (even a Cat 3 ticket for the England game) - just go to the MAIN site, that is open to all = HERECategory 3 (restricted view) for England game is 40 Euro Category 2 (restricted view) for other games are 85 Euro Regular Category 2 tickets are 105 Euro. You could always re-sell these to other Welsh fans here on our site! This lottery area only CLOSES ON 1 FEBRUARY!Wouldn't you need to enter passport number on that application? might that create a problem if you've already applied for FAW allocation with your passport number? |
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Post by cymro on Jan 18, 2016 13:35:24 GMT
I think it will work as jbt has said. Eppingblue's suggestion would be my preference but i think it will be too difficult for FAW to implement.
I'll be screwed if it doesn't go that way. I went cat 4 thinking I'll just get upgraded if I don't make it. I got a Bosnia ticket in the second phase so I thought I ought to be ok for cat 3 but might as well give cat 4 ago - nothing to lose. My own fault for being such a tight arse. Just went on the site to try and change but couldn't log on so that's probably that.
Yeah this scenario is the worry. Hopefully they look after the loyal fans who have accepted upgrades rather than fill up by people's first choice first. |
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Post by helipad138 on Jan 18, 2016 13:36:02 GMT
I think it will work as jbt has said. Eppingblue's suggestion would be my preference but i think it will be too difficult for FAW to implement.
I'll be screwed if it doesn't go that way. I went cat 4 thinking I'll just get upgraded if I don't make it. I got a Bosnia ticket in the second phase so I thought I ought to be ok for cat 3 but might as well give cat 4 ago - nothing to lose. My own fault for being such a tight arse. Just went on the site to try and change but couldn't log on so that's probably that.
FAW website says: FAW Loyalty System
After the application window has closed, UEFA will share with us the data of all members who have applied for tickets. FAW will implement the loyalty system depending on the number of applications received and will prioritise the lead applicants before sending the data back to UEFA. UEFA will then process applications in this order and will confirm to the applicant if they have been successful. Exact details of the membership and booking history requirements are to be confirmed as this will be dependent on the applications.
This suggests that eppingblue's suggestion could be correct - it would certainly be the fairest (no point having a loyalty system otherwise!). |
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Post by cymro on Jan 18, 2016 13:40:28 GMT
Hopefully that wording means they prioritise applications for loyal people who have accepted upgrades too then. Worried that that's going to get really messy and a lot of work for the office!
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Post by jbt95 on Jan 18, 2016 13:51:27 GMT
I'm sure I've read that it's the FAW who will be deciding who gets what once the numbers are in? Nothing any of us can do about it now anyway, just got to wait and see! Personally, I'm more worried about a huge foreign payment going through on my credit card within a couple weeks of getting it. Might just be my paranoia... which seems endemic on these threads! I'm in the same boat as you with regards to the new credit card thing. I rang up Barclaycard and they said the 'e-commerce transaction limit' is the same as my credit limit. I tried asking if giving them the Merchant ID number is any good but said there is nothing they can do from their end. They just advised using the card as often as you can before the payment goes out. |
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Post by trevorcloud on Jan 18, 2016 17:02:11 GMT
[/quote]I'm in the same boat as you with regards to the new credit card thing.
I rang up Barclaycard and they said the 'e-commerce transaction limit' is the same as my credit limit. I tried asking if giving them the Merchant ID number is any good but said there is nothing they can do from their end.
They just advised using the card as often as you can before the payment goes out.[/quote]
I was going to try and speak to HSBC as well see if they can do anything. Other than that I'll just keep buying petrol with it and maybe book a hotel for the trip with it to test paying in euros!
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Post by worsy on Jan 18, 2016 17:19:58 GMT
I'm in the same boat as you with regards to the new credit card thing. I rang up Barclaycard and they said the 'e-commerce transaction limit' is the same as my credit limit. I tried asking if giving them the Merchant ID number is any good but said there is nothing they can do from their end. They just advised using the card as often as you can before the payment goes out.[/quote] I was going to try and speak to HSBC as well see if they can do anything. Other than that I'll just keep buying petrol with it and maybe book a hotel for the trip with it to test paying in euros![/quote] booked bordeaux accomodation with mine that cleared quick enough I can tell you. |
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 19, 2016 7:47:59 GMT
I rang my credit card company to make them aware of a possible large payment to UEFA in the next few weeks.
They stated they would make a note but could not guarantee!!
Thankfully, similar to you my payments (in Euros) for accommodation were accepted immediately so this is hopefully a good sign
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Post by cymro on Jan 19, 2016 8:37:56 GMT
I rang my credit card company to make them aware of a possible large payment to UEFA in the next few weeks. They stated they would make a note but could not guarantee!! Thankfully, similar to you my payments (in Euros) for accommodation were accepted immediately so this is hopefully a good sign I've sent Natwest a message to say the same. They always say they can't guarantee. I guess the intelligence behind blocking a payment is largely automated. Unfortunately. |
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Post by onthewaytofrance on Jan 19, 2016 12:48:18 GMT
im sure wil be fine as thousands of fans would be angry and upset so credit cards should work no problem , alot of fans are over worrying on this , as imiagine if it did affect people for most peple this is a unusual transaction so literally thousands would be affected dare say most of are allocation would fail to pay .
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although reckon cat 1 probably OK for Russia.
