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Post by iot on May 21, 2019 13:43:54 GMT
How can a team 'hang on for dear life' for 2/3 of a season? We were a poor attacking side and if we conceded first we'd be in huge trouble. We dropped a lot of crucial points near the end, which no doubt affected morale, and there was just a general sense of "let's get this over with" created both in the stands and on the pitch. you went into the playoffs with 4 wins from your last 5, seems to be a bit of revisionism going on here
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Post by robin1864 on May 21, 2019 13:46:00 GMT
We were a poor attacking side and if we conceded first we'd be in huge trouble. We dropped a lot of crucial points near the end, which no doubt affected morale, and there was just a general sense of "let's get this over with" created both in the stands and on the pitch. you went into the playoffs with 4 wins from your last 5, seems to be a bit of revisionism going on here There's no revisionism at all, I said we'd be damn lucky to progress in the playoffs well before we secured our spot.
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Post by iot on May 21, 2019 15:07:27 GMT
you went into the playoffs with 4 wins from your last 5, seems to be a bit of revisionism going on here There's no revisionism at all, I said we'd be damn lucky to progress in the playoffs well before we secured our spot. The revisionism is when you said: "We were a poor attacking side and if we conceded first we'd be in huge trouble. We dropped a lot of crucial points near the end..." Evidently, that was not true. Incidentally, of the four wins I mentioned, you scored 8 goals and in one game you had to come from behind to win while in another you were drawing 1-1 before scoring the winner in the 86th min. Your perceptions do not appear to be based in reality.
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Post by robin1864 on May 21, 2019 15:24:06 GMT
There's no revisionism at all, I said we'd be damn lucky to progress in the playoffs well before we secured our spot. The revisionism is when you said: "We were a poor attacking side and if we conceded first we'd be in huge trouble. We dropped a lot of crucial points near the end..." Evidently, that was not true. Incidentally, of the four wins I mentioned, you scored 8 goals and in one game you had to come from behind to win while in another you were drawing 1-1 before scoring the winner in the 86th min. Your perceptions do not appear to be based in reality. We could argue about this all day, but those last 4 games weren't representative of our form from January-March, which is ultimately what cost us in the end. We lost to Fylde, Bromley, Dover and Salford, registering only 3 points in January. February saw a mini-revival, but losing to Orient, Hartlepool & Barrow in March then Halifax in April was the end of it. I've been saying ever since January we've been a shambles, we made it to the play-offs and finished strong on paper, but no way did we ever deserve to go up. Route one football to 5'5 strikers & hanging onto 1-0 leads would see us relegated out of League 2 straight away. The worst part is, the pains of January which poisoned the remainder of season didn't need to fucking happen if the board didn't hire Barrow on the cheap.
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Post by massivefloodlights on May 22, 2019 15:50:07 GMT
Sheer luck to get into the play offs?? Seriously? We were 17 points clear of 8th place.. That’s not “sheer luck” Give over. After Ricketts left us high and dry, we were hanging on for dear life and that was reflected in our performances. Hanging on for dear life.. ? Lol. We were in the top 3 or 4, pretty much all season. Think we dropped to 5th for 5 days after the Halifax away defeat.
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Post by erasedcitizen on May 25, 2019 9:05:15 GMT
A positive week, with Rob Lainton and James Jennings signing new deals.
Didn't expect Lainton to sign as he's undoubtably league 2 standard at least and had clubs higher up the pyramid chasing him for that reason. There must be something going on to entice him to stay and I for one, am excited.
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Post by massivefloodlights on May 27, 2019 13:43:50 GMT
A positive week, with Rob Lainton and James Jennings signing new deals. Didn't expect Lainton to sign as he's undoubtably league 2 standard at least and had clubs higher up the pyramid chasing him for that reason. There must be something going on to entice him to stay and I for one, am excited. Cheap option. 🤣
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Post by massivefloodlights on Jun 11, 2019 11:27:33 GMT
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Post by robin1864 on Jun 11, 2019 16:00:54 GMT
Macron though Give me Admiral, Errea or Umbro any day of the week over that shite.
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Wrexham
Jun 11, 2019 17:07:38 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Jun 11, 2019 17:07:38 GMT
Better kits in the wpl 😎
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Post by robin1864 on Jun 11, 2019 23:36:28 GMT
For once, you're absolutely right.
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Post by majorraglan on Jun 12, 2019 6:38:53 GMT
Had a quick look and thought they were quite tidy, can’t comment on the quality but it seems these days the bigger companies are only interested in supplying the higher profile teams.
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Post by pendragon on Sept 7, 2019 17:14:59 GMT
Congratulations to Wrexham in the Scottish Challenge Cup! 👍
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Post by majorraglan on Sept 7, 2019 21:33:00 GMT
What’s happening with their league form, I expected them to challenge fr promotion this year their 18th out of 24 and 2 point above the drop zone. I’d have thought they were better than that.
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 8, 2019 16:26:29 GMT
What’s happening with their league form, I expected them to challenge fr promotion this year their 18th out of 24 and 2 point above the drop zone. I’d have thought they were better than that. The effects of hiring a shit, unproven manager is coming home to roost. We absolutely robbed Maidenhead of a win on Tuesday night, and we'll get battered by Connah's Quay in the Irn Bru cup. Hughes will be sacked before Christmas.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 8, 2019 16:28:28 GMT
What’s happening with their league form, I expected them to challenge fr promotion this year their 18th out of 24 and 2 point above the drop zone. I’d have thought they were better than that. Hughes was a disastrous appointment and most now want Spencer Harris removed from football operations. A number want the board out completely but I'm not sure on that idea. Our first team coach and assistant manager are both working part time as well. The only member of the backroom coaching staff who's working full time is our GK coach. Those sitting on the board aren't voted on so there's little the fans can do to change things at the top. It doesn't feel like a fan owned club at all anymore.
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 8, 2019 16:47:39 GMT
What’s happening with their league form, I expected them to challenge fr promotion this year their 18th out of 24 and 2 point above the drop zone. I’d have thought they were better than that. Hughes was a disastrous appointment and most now want Spencer Harris removed from football operations. A number want the board out completely but I'm not sure on that idea. Our first team coach and assistant manager are both working part time as well. The only member of the backroom coaching staff who's working full time is our GK coach. Those sitting on the board aren't voted on so there's little the fans can do to change things at the top. It doesn't feel like a fan owned club at all anymore. I think a lot of the calls are massively OTT - Things like the Board, Colliers, Manny, Darlington, Flynn, part-timers & whatever else Red Passionistas want to nitpick wouldn't be an issue if Hughes was winning matches, and now you can guarantee a meltdown after every result that isn't 3 points. The current situation is far from ideal and I'd like to hope the board have been hoarding profits cash for a huge promotion push as part of a 10-year takeover plan. What's for certain is there's no knight in shining armour millionaire coming in to promise us the world, and after seeing what's happened to us in the past and recently at Bury, we should be at least pleased that we're finally being run within our means and aren't at risk of winding up orders. All that aside, if we did sack Hughes now, who would be an improvement that's currently available?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 8, 2019 16:56:24 GMT
Hughes was a disastrous appointment and most now want Spencer Harris removed from football operations. A number want the board out completely but I'm not sure on that idea. Our first team coach and assistant manager are both working part time as well. The only member of the backroom coaching staff who's working full time is our GK coach. Those sitting on the board aren't voted on so there's little the fans can do to change things at the top. It doesn't feel like a fan owned club at all anymore. I think a lot of the calls are massively OTT - Things like the Board, Colliers, Manny, Darlington, Flynn, part-timers & whatever else Red Passionistas want to nitpick wouldn't be an issue if Hughes was winning matches, and now you can guarantee a meltdown after every result that isn't 3 points. The current situation is far from ideal and I'd like to hope the board have been hoarding profits cash for a huge promotion push as part of a 10-year takeover plan. What's for certain is there's no knight in shining armour millionaire coming in to promise us the world, and after seeing what's happened to us in the past and recently at Bury, we should be at least pleased that we're finally being run within our means and aren't at risk of winding up orders. All that aside, if we did sack Hughes now, who would be an improvement that's currently available? Is it OTT though? Things like us having a part-time coaching team and the board choosing an under-qualified manager is part of the reason we're playing so poorly at the moment in my view. Decent owners do exist, and if one came in to buy Wrexham then I'd hope we'd take the offer seriously. I believe in fan-ownership however and am happy not having the risks associated with clubs who could go pop at any moment due to their reliance on their owners. I just think we could be doing better and our current board are getting things awfully wrong on the pitch. I'd start with sacking Darlington alongside Hughes before hiring someone with experience in this league. Neil Aspin perhaps. Almost anyone would be an improvement on Hughes. How on earth did we go from setting a record for number of clean sheets last season to conceding 15 goals in the first 9 games this time round?
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 8, 2019 17:30:28 GMT
I think a lot of the calls are massively OTT - Things like the Board, Colliers, Manny, Darlington, Flynn, part-timers & whatever else Red Passionistas want to nitpick wouldn't be an issue if Hughes was winning matches, and now you can guarantee a meltdown after every result that isn't 3 points. The current situation is far from ideal and I'd like to hope the board have been hoarding profits cash for a huge promotion push as part of a 10-year takeover plan. What's for certain is there's no knight in shining armour millionaire coming in to promise us the world, and after seeing what's happened to us in the past and recently at Bury, we should be at least pleased that we're finally being run within our means and aren't at risk of winding up orders. All that aside, if we did sack Hughes now, who would be an improvement that's currently available? Is it OTT though? Things like us having a part-time coaching team and the board choosing an under-qualified manager is part of the reason we're playing so poorly at the moment in my view. Decent owners do exist, and if one came in to buy Wrexham then I'd hope we'd take the offer seriously. I believe in fan-ownership however and am happy not having the risks associated with clubs who could go pop at any moment due to their reliance on their owners. I just think we could be doing better and our current board are getting things awfully wrong on the pitch. I'd start with sacking Darlington alongside Hughes before hiring someone with experience in this league. Neil Aspin perhaps. Almost anyone would be an improvement on Hughes. How on earth did we go from setting a record for number of clean sheets last season to conceding 15 goals in the first 9 games this time round? I think so. We hired a qualified manager in Gary Mills and that was a disaster too. If we were winning, who would be arsed where we train or how often we trained, how "statue-like" Hughes is or Darlington's contract situation? It's all just an overreaction and overthinking into the fact Hughes is a fucking dreadful manager. Historically, our most successful gaffers have managed us immediately after hanging up their boots - Arfon, Dixie, Flynn, Morrell & Keates. Decent owners do exist, but none of them ever showed any interest in Wrexham - just conmen and chancers. I agree with the opinion that the board are more reliant on guesswork rather than informed decisions when it comes to Football, so we could do with more expertise in that area. The Club board should be given 5-year terms before elections through the WST membership, though my only concern with this is voters would focus entirely on football results and who offers the most stuff, rather than the general health of the club. I'd hate for us to end up following the old Ebbsfleet model. Darlington, Hughes & perhaps Flynn would have to go, I'd then promote Manny & bring in Carlos as full-time coaches - Lads who've played the game professionally at different levels & more importantly, motivators.
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Wrexham
Sept 21, 2019 18:56:45 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 21, 2019 18:56:45 GMT
Oh dear.
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 21, 2019 21:30:55 GMT
What's going on?
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Wrexham
Sept 22, 2019 8:44:38 GMT
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Sept 22, 2019 8:44:38 GMT
We went to the game against aldershot yesterday, 2 very poor teams and terrible result for Wrexham.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 22, 2019 9:23:37 GMT
We went to the game against aldershot yesterday, 2 very poor teams and terrible result for Wrexham. I'm so sorry.
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Wrexham
Sept 22, 2019 10:08:39 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Sept 22, 2019 10:08:39 GMT
Some good teams in the conference north
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 22, 2019 10:16:59 GMT
Some good teams in the conference north Can't wait for Kidderminster away again. Brilliant away day and cracking food.
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Wrexham
Sept 22, 2019 18:40:45 GMT
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Sept 22, 2019 18:40:45 GMT
Some good teams in the conference north No good for the Southern based fans.
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 24, 2019 11:49:09 GMT
The effects of hiring a shit, unproven manager is coming home to roost. We absolutely robbed Maidenhead of a win on Tuesday night, and we'll get battered by Connah's Quay in the Irn Bru cup. Hughes will be sacked before Christmas. Well, at least we're no longer robbing teams of 3 points.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 24, 2019 19:15:18 GMT
Sad to say but there's something radically wrong here, and last year's play offs just masked it.
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 25, 2019 23:58:03 GMT
REJOICE!
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Post by 1gwaunview on Sept 26, 2019 10:07:22 GMT
Come on without, Come on within, make sure the next Wrexham manager is Brian Flynn. (Tune - Manfred Mann's Mighty Quinn) At least until the end of the season anyway .
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