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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 13, 2023 9:58:32 GMT
It's a fair point, but they're both talented players who have played at a high enough level to be able to position themselves well and see-saw well enough. There have been plenty of occasions where we have created chances fullback-to-fullback though from my memory and that hasn't left us exposed, it's just a case of doing it well. I see no inherent reason that James couldn't is all I'm trying to say But that's why I'd say test it in the NL rather than one of the upcoming important games The Nations League is very important. If we win promotion, that may see us get a play-off for the World Cup. You can use the Nations League to test out a tactic you feel will work and also compete. Giggs managed this balance excellently. I'm not saying put the U21s out, but trialling James at wing-back is a valid experiment against the likes of Iceland, Montenegro, Kazakhstan, especially if the lineup we put out is strong, e.g... Ward Rodon-Lockyer-Davies James-Ampadu-JJ-Dasilva Wilson-Broadhead Brennan To me that's a good way of testing the capabilities of some fringe players, trying something new, and being strong enough to still be favoured to win against the sides mentioned
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 1, 2024 23:15:02 GMT
Goal and assist for DJ today, 8 goals in his last 16 appearances.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 13, 2024 15:33:43 GMT
Another goal today
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Post by janglingjack on Jan 13, 2024 15:55:42 GMT
Must be weird for the cardiff fans there seeing actual Welshmen on their pitch,though i suppose they have had more that enough time to get used to not seeing that.Our capital city ladies and gentlemen.Not i needless pop at cardiff,i just find it frustrating and depressing.
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Post by garynysmon on Jan 13, 2024 17:17:47 GMT
Must be weird for the cardiff fans there seeing actual Welshmen on their pitch,though i suppose they have had more that enough time to get used to not seeing that.Our capital city ladies and gentlemen.Not i needless pop at cardiff,i just find it frustrating and depressing. I don't think any of the Anglo clubs have a particularly glowing report on that front, although some are worse than others. Agree though, its poor.
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Post by surge on Jan 13, 2024 18:17:28 GMT
Must be weird for the cardiff fans there seeing actual Welshmen on their pitch,though i suppose they have had more that enough time to get used to not seeing that.Our capital city ladies and gentlemen.Not i needless pop at cardiff,i just find it frustrating and depressing. It could be better but Colwill, Colwill and Ashford on the bench for Cardiff. There has been some good investment in youth structure recently, the youth side are producing good results in their league (u18's beat Ipswich today to make it 7 wins in a row) and there does seem interest in bringing through youth now.
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Post by spiritof16 on Jan 15, 2024 11:12:43 GMT
Must be weird for the cardiff fans there seeing actual Welshmen on their pitch,though i suppose they have had more that enough time to get used to not seeing that.Our capital city ladies and gentlemen.Not i needless pop at cardiff,i just find it frustrating and depressing. All the Welsh clubs playing in England should be doing better but Cardiff aren’t doing any worse than the rest of them. Full Welsh internationals that have played for Cardiff recently Aaron Ramsey Rubin Colwill Kieffer Moore Harry Wilson Will Vaulks Mark Harris Jazz Richards Just some of Welsh youth players we have in the squad currently (and many more have moved on) Kieron Evans Isaak Davies Cian Ashford Eli King Joel Colwill Tom Davies Oli Denham So I would argue it was a bit of a needless pop at Cardiff.
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Post by jono on Jan 15, 2024 17:23:26 GMT
Got to start against Finland. He's been fantastic of late. 9 goals 5 assists this season.
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Post by fiveattheback on Jan 15, 2024 17:48:22 GMT
Must be weird for the cardiff fans there seeing actual Welshmen on their pitch,though i suppose they have had more that enough time to get used to not seeing that.Our capital city ladies and gentlemen.Not i needless pop at cardiff,i just find it frustrating and depressing. All the Welsh clubs playing in England should be doing better but Cardiff aren’t doing any worse than the rest of them. Full Welsh internationals that have played for Cardiff recently Aaron Ramsey Rubin Colwill Kieffer Moore Harry Wilson Will Vaulks Mark Harris Jazz Richards Just some of Welsh youth players we have in the squad currently (and many more have moved on) Kieron Evans Isaak Davies Cian Ashford Eli King Joel Colwill Tom Davies Oli Denham So I would argue it was a bit of a needless pop at Cardiff. Add in the huge numbers Cardiff provide to the youth teams, especially the successful u17s who made the last Euros You're right, it is a needless pop at Cardiff
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 15, 2024 23:35:21 GMT
Jonny Williams is another that's turned out for Cardiff in recent years, Tom Lawrence too, albeit a bit further back. A quarter of the 2022 World Cup squad played or had played for Cardiff City.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 21, 2024 12:09:18 GMT
On fire
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Post by morg on Jan 21, 2024 13:07:41 GMT
Would be preferable for Cymru if Leeds get promoted this season. If they don't, you'd think that premier league clubs will be sniffing round Dan, Joe and Ethan and I'd prefer them to stay where they are!
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Post by hooky on Jan 21, 2024 14:09:20 GMT
Really, really happy for him He always gives 100% but needs managers to back him / he is a confidence player I'll say it again - he has been our best performer on a consistent basis over the past few years. Bale may have been the icing on the cake but James made sure that cake had a base - with consistent goal involvements. I hope all Welsh fans appreciate what he has done for us and how important he is to us. Should have started away to Armenia I have been surprised by the criticism of James by both Wales and Leeds fans in the recent past. Leeds fans - even this season - just praising non stop Ethan and Joe but mixed in their responses to James up until the last time I bothered to check - a couple of weeks ago - I really don't understand why!
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 21, 2024 14:27:25 GMT
James plays in a position where you have to try things and sometimes when you try things they don't always come off and people can be quick to jump on you. He's a constant threat though, even if he's having an off day he's capable of making things happen, he's constantly drawing fouls and pulling teams around the pitch with his movement.
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Post by iot on Jan 21, 2024 14:53:06 GMT
I agree that James has probably been our best player since he made his debut.
As for why he splits opinion, it sounds daft to say but I think it's because a lot of people don't see him as being the most aesthetically pleasing. He's extremely effective with his pace and industry, and he can pull off the odd moment of quality, but he can also be very sloppy with his touch, finishing, crossing and passing. The good stuff he does far outweighs the negatives, but I think a lot of people can't get over the sloppiness and mock him for it. I think Sterling has faced similar criticisms at times with accusations of him being a pace merchant that lacks proper footballing ability. Conversely, other players who are more aesthetically pleasing g to watch, but aren't as effective, get a lot more love. In our case I think Brooks probably falls into that category
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jan 21, 2024 17:13:06 GMT
Excellent post, that's pretty much exactly how I see it.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 21, 2024 17:27:42 GMT
I just think he's not a typical inside forward, he's more of an out and out winger, and in the system we're currently playing you need players like Ramsey/Wilson/Brooks behind the striker, I don't think DJ is necessarily that well suited to that role
This is why I'd love to see us playing for us as a wing back - I think he could do the role on either side. He has the pace & stamina to get up and down, he has a high defensive work rate, and that position mostly requires positional discipline. You don't actually need to be a "defender" to do it. We've seen other players like Victor Moses make that transition really well too
With Connor Roberts down turn in form for us, and lack of game time this season, I think it's the perfect time to play DJ there in his place, or to play Neco there and use DJ on the left
Ward Mepham-Rodon-Davies DJ-Ampadu-JJ-Neco Wilson-Brooks Brennan
That looks like a really exciting lineup to me
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Post by iot on Jan 21, 2024 17:32:29 GMT
Excellent post, that's pretty much exactly how I see it. Yeah, always annoys me when people really lay into James, like a few people did on here after he missed a couple of big chances against Ukraine and in other games. You have to accept that's going to happen, otherwise he would be tearing it up with Man U rather than dropping down to Leeds. He's not the most natural of footballers, but for all the natural footballing ability that Brooks, Wilson and arguably Johnson has, James has been by far the most effective.
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Post by iot on Jan 21, 2024 17:38:29 GMT
I just think he's not a typical inside forward, he's more of an out and out winger, and in the system we're currently playing you need players like Ramsey/Wilson/Brooks behind the striker, I don't think DJ is necessarily that well suited to that role This is why I'd love to see us playing for us as a wing back - I think he could do the role on either side. He has the pace & stamina to get up and down, he has a high defensive work rate, and that position mostly requires positional discipline. You don't actually need to be a "defender" to do it. We've seen other players like Victor Moses make that transition really well too With Connor Roberts down turn in form for us, and lack of game time this season, I think it's the perfect time to play DJ there in his place, or to play Neco there and use DJ on the left Ward Mepham-Rodon-Davies DJ-Ampadu-JJ-Neco Wilson-Brooks Brennan That looks like a really exciting lineup to me I think it could potentially work, but just because it has worked for some players (Moses, Valencia, Young etc.), it doesn't mean that everyone possessing some of the same attributes can do it - some of the intangibles like positional awareness are the biggest unknowns. The only time it's been tried from what I can remember was against Armenia away. James was completely ineffective and looked completely lost. It was only after seeing Page's comments after the game, where he mentioned he brought James on at LWB, that I realised that's where he was supposed to be playing - that says a lot about how well he played the role!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 21, 2024 17:58:51 GMT
I just think he's not a typical inside forward, he's more of an out and out winger, and in the system we're currently playing you need players like Ramsey/Wilson/Brooks behind the striker, I don't think DJ is necessarily that well suited to that role This is why I'd love to see us playing for us as a wing back - I think he could do the role on either side. He has the pace & stamina to get up and down, he has a high defensive work rate, and that position mostly requires positional discipline. You don't actually need to be a "defender" to do it. We've seen other players like Victor Moses make that transition really well too With Connor Roberts down turn in form for us, and lack of game time this season, I think it's the perfect time to play DJ there in his place, or to play Neco there and use DJ on the left Ward Mepham-Rodon-Davies DJ-Ampadu-JJ-Neco Wilson-Brooks Brennan That looks like a really exciting lineup to me I think it could potentially work, but just because it has worked for some players (Moses, Valencia, Young etc.), it doesn't mean that everyone possessing some of the same attributes can do it - some of the intangibles like positional awareness are the biggest unknowns. The only time it's been tried from what I can remember was against Armenia away. James was completely ineffective and looked completely lost. It was only after seeing Page's comments after the game, where he mentioned he brought James on at LWB, that I realised that's where he was supposed to be playing - that says a lot about how well he played the role! I agree, and I'm not saying I know for a fact it will work but I have a good feeling it will Armenia was a mess of a performance, front to back throughout the team. I don't think any of those performances should be indicative of the players really. It was another example of how we can be very poor away but play very well at home. I'd want to see us trial James there in a home game first to really trial it
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jan 21, 2024 18:31:40 GMT
I'd like to see us give it a go too, but not in the playoffs, obviously. There will be friendly opportunities before the euros, whether we qualify or not, so that would an ideal opportunity to experiment.
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Post by reyrey on Jan 21, 2024 19:24:08 GMT
I don’t get the calls for him to play wing back. He’s flying for Leeds with goals and assists playing as an out and out winger and is also one of wales most attacking threats when he plays there. Maybe he could do a job there but that would take away from his main strengths.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 21, 2024 19:41:47 GMT
I don’t get the calls for him to play wing back. He’s flying for Leeds with goals and assists playing as an out and out winger and is also one of wales most attacking threats when he plays there. Maybe he could do a job there but that would take away from his main strengths. With the other options we now have to play there I don't think he'll ever get shoe horned into that position, in the absence of the retired Bale and Ramsey often being unavailable, Wilson, Brooks and James have become massive for us, as demonstrated in our win over Croatia.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jan 21, 2024 20:28:25 GMT
I don’t get the calls for him to play wing back. He’s flying for Leeds with goals and assists playing as an out and out winger and is also one of wales most attacking threats when he plays there. Maybe he could do a job there but that would take away from his main strengths. The problem is how do we fit in James when we play 3-4-2-1? If we play 4-2-3-1 then there's a slot there for James, but there is a question whether James is the best option as a 10 ahead of Brooks, Ramsey and Wilson in a 3-4-2-1. So, playing James as a left wingback with Neco on the right could be a good solution.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 21, 2024 21:49:58 GMT
I'm a great believer in playing a player where they're playing for their club, especially if they're tearing it up like James is. England shot themselves in the foot doing weird stuff trying to accommodate Gerrard, Scholes, Beckham and Lampard in the same eleven.
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Post by athenempadu on Jan 22, 2024 10:09:41 GMT
James plays in a position where you have to try things and sometimes when you try things they don't always come off and people can be quick to jump on you. He's a constant threat though, even if he's having an off day he's capable of making things happen, he's constantly drawing fouls and pulling teams around the pitch with his movement. Sometimes he does have an off day, and so do the other forward players, but Summerville & Rutter are still capable of doing something totally unexpected even when they are not playing well. This is why Leeds have lost 6 away games this season, and they can be frustrating to watch at times. On the other hand, when everything clicks they are very easy on the eye. If you want confirmation of this, just look at Farke's face when the camera zooms in on him during games.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 24, 2024 20:07:50 GMT
Another assist tonight already, I wonder what his career stats for assists is? I bet it's very high.
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Post by athenempadu on Jan 25, 2024 0:36:44 GMT
Another assist tonight already, I wonder what his career stats for assists is? I bet it's very high. He didn't come out for the 2nd half due to injury. Leeds are now 2 pts behind Ipswich, who have a game in hand.
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Post by jimexotic on Jan 25, 2024 1:10:37 GMT
Let's hope it's nothing serious. I noticed that Rodon and Ampadu played together at the back again, as much as I like this I want Ethan in the middle of the park where we currently really need him for Wales.
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Post by athenempadu on Jan 25, 2024 2:40:11 GMT
Let's hope it's nothing serious. I noticed that Rodon and Ampadu played together at the back again, as much as I like this I want Ethan in the middle of the park where we currently really need him for Wales. How can they change a winning team? With Ampadu as captain playing at CB, they have won 4 games in a row with 9 goals for, and 1 goal against, and him & Rodon have hardly broken into a sweat. If Struijk was back from injury, they could use Saturdays FA Cup game to switch to their original back 4, but he wasn't even on the bench today.
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