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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 20, 2023 20:08:05 GMT
Colwill is still a bit of an enigma. Has obvious quality, and shows flashes of it. But it's hard to see him getting into the seniors, given our strength in that area, without first developing his all-round game. I hope that happens sooner rather than later, because he is clearly a classy player.
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Post by rob on Nov 20, 2023 20:16:06 GMT
Colwill was tackling back a lot to be fair.Would have in the squad ahead of Bradshaw and Cullen.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 20, 2023 20:18:04 GMT
Colwill is still a bit of an enigma. Has obvious quality, and shows flashes of it. But it's hard to see him getting into the seniors, given our strength in that area, without first developing his all-round game. I hope that happens sooner rather than later, because he is clearly a classy player. I think he offers something a little different to our other forwards, his size is an obvious one but I think he's a bit more direct than some of them. His defensive work has also come on leaps and bounds since Bulut took over at Cardiff
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Post by Belle Vue on Nov 20, 2023 20:40:20 GMT
8 points out of a possible 15 Bang average Will be lucky to finish 3 in the group !!
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Post by evans1282 on Nov 20, 2023 20:49:31 GMT
8 points out of a possible 15 Bang average Will be lucky to finish 3 in the group !! FFS Mr doom and gloom again , personally I'm a glass half full guy, so my take so far after watching every game ( one not live) is some talented footballers coming through, light up front and three pretty even teams in the top three spots.You think bang average ok, luckily I only have to read your negative shite on here and can mostly ignore you
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Post by janglingjack on Nov 20, 2023 20:54:46 GMT
the Czechs Danes and an unknown in iceland.not the easiest group,but then i guess none are,still in it but a bad result today,and low,he looks like thirty already,certainly a presence about him and Harris seems a shoot on site player that we haven't enough of in the first team,some promise there for sure.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 20, 2023 20:55:31 GMT
Colwill is still a bit of an enigma. Has obvious quality, and shows flashes of it. But it's hard to see him getting into the seniors, given our strength in that area, without first developing his all-round game. I hope that happens sooner rather than later, because he is clearly a classy player. I think he offers something a little different to our other forwards, his size is an obvious one but I think he's a bit more direct than some of them. His defensive work has also come on leaps and bounds since Bulut took over at Cardiff I certainly wouldn't averse to see him in the squad, he certainly has something about him. It's only a matter of time before he forces his way into the squad.
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Post by surge on Nov 20, 2023 20:57:08 GMT
We've played the top seed home and away picking up one point.
Czechia played away from home, picking up a point, and Iceland at home picking up a win.
Lithuania away from home picking up a win.
We only have three games left and weirdly they are one in March, one in September and one in October. One away game and two at home.
Second in group goes into play-off.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Nov 20, 2023 21:04:14 GMT
We've played the top seed home and away picking up one point. Czechia played away from home, picking up a point, and Iceland at home picking up a win. Lithuania away from home picking up a win. We only have three games left and weirdly they are one in March, one in September and one in October. One away game and two at home. Second in group goes into play-off. We have a realistic chance of the play-offs, although we could still easily finish fourth.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 20, 2023 21:06:29 GMT
I think he offers something a little different to our other forwards, his size is an obvious one but I think he's a bit more direct than some of them. His defensive work has also come on leaps and bounds since Bulut took over at Cardiff I certainly wouldn't averse to see him in the squad, he certainly has something about him. It's only a matter of time before he forces his way into the squad. I think he'd be in the squad if the u21s didn't have a shot at qualifying
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Post by hooky on Nov 20, 2023 21:35:47 GMT
I think he offers something a little different to our other forwards, his size is an obvious one but I think he's a bit more direct than some of them. His defensive work has also come on leaps and bounds since Bulut took over at Cardiff I certainly wouldn't averse to see him in the squad, he certainly has something about him. It's only a matter of time before he forces his way into the squad. Far better than Broadhead, Bradshaw and Cullen in terms of game ability ability for sure. Why Page keeps with those 3 and not change one of them for Colwilll is another decision I find out. How many goals for us have those last 2 scored and how many have Colwill score and who has stood out for us out of those 3?
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Post by hooky on Nov 20, 2023 21:42:48 GMT
I tell you what that Cian Ashford has great reactions, technique and composure doesn't he?
I missed the last goal as I gave up after the second goal but just checked after seeing we scored a late goal. He has something about him doesn't he and his reaction after he scored - he is just a kid but was sprinting towards the half way line for the restart - total focus! Have a good feeling about him
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 20, 2023 21:48:16 GMT
I tell you what that Cian Ashford has great reactions, technique and composure doesn't he? I missed the last goal as I gave up after the second goal but just checked after seeing we scored a late goal. He has something about him doesn't he and his reaction after he scored - he is just a kid but was sprinting towards the half way line for the restart - total focus! Have a good feeling about him He's been highly rated at Cardiff for a while now, was set to break into the first team last season but injured his knee pretty badly. I think he was playing for Cardiff's u18s at 14 Definitely has something about him, that goal in Czechia was a thing of beauty
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 21, 2023 14:48:49 GMT
A nice 4-0 win over Gibraltar for the u17s to qualify for the Elite Round top of their group
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Post by surge on Nov 22, 2023 0:02:11 GMT
A nice 4-0 win over Gibraltar for the u17s to qualify for the Elite Round top of their group Ultimately this, emergence of James/Ampadu partnership (next step is building depth behind it) and Neco finally getting a goal after so many special near misses are the positives of the weekend.
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Post by saturn9 on Nov 22, 2023 1:00:06 GMT
A nice 4-0 win over Gibraltar for the u17s to qualify for the Elite Round top of their group Any major standouts from this group of players?
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Post by saturn9 on Nov 28, 2023 17:42:14 GMT
Did our u17's play the French this summer in a double header . I remember the 2-0 loss, but sure there was a second match which ended 2-2 or 1-1.
French u17s through to the final to play ze Germans.
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Post by dragonsoccer on Nov 28, 2023 18:39:10 GMT
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Post by saturn9 on Nov 28, 2023 21:23:01 GMT
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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 17, 2023 20:01:30 GMT
Joel Cotterill came off the bench to score in Stockport's 8 nil annihilation of Sutton yesterday.
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Post by raptor on Jan 2, 2024 8:27:20 GMT
I'm not up to date with the youth teams so much these days. Could anyone who is predict a future starting XI? Or top 5 prospects? Ta.
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Post by quetzal on Jan 2, 2024 14:04:38 GMT
I'm not up to date with the youth teams so much these days. Could anyone who is predict a future starting XI? Or top 5 prospects? Ta. Dragon soccer a great source of up and coming news. dragonsoccer.co.uk/newsite/index.phpI’ll name three that caught my while watching lower age games. Charlie Crew Leeds midfielder, England after him though. Alfie Tuck QPR midfield. Joe Belmont Brighton striker. There’s a lad at Man Utd Gabriel Biancheri striker but been a bit hit or miss from what I’ve seen. 20 year old GK with Chelsea Eddie Beach. Been on bench for Chelsea’s first team at least once.
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Post by wirralwelsh on Jan 2, 2024 20:10:33 GMT
I think we have a pretty young team and are actually well covered for the future, up to 2028 Euros at least. Only exception is maybe at centre forward with Moore declining, but Cullen is having a good breakthrough season now, and plenty of teenage striker prospects too so shouldn't be a problem. Beck the next player to step up from Under-21's I expect, and Colwill and Harris already been in the first team squad. Ward, Williams, Beck, Davies, Rodon, Mepham, Ampadu, J James, Wilson, Johnson, Cullen should be nucleus of the team for a few years, with plenty of impact sub options too (D James, Brooks, Harris, Colwill, Broadhead etc. Maybe Matondo and Tyler Roberts also)
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Post by raptor on Jan 2, 2024 22:05:09 GMT
I'm not up to date with the youth teams so much these days. Could anyone who is predict a future starting XI? Or top 5 prospects? Ta. Dragon soccer a great source of up and coming news. dragonsoccer.co.uk/newsite/index.phpI’ll name three that caught my while watching lower age games. Charlie Crew Leeds midfielder, England after him though. Alfie Tuck QPR midfield. Joe Belmont Brighton striker. There’s a lad at Man Utd Gabriel Biancheri striker but been a bit hit or miss from what I’ve seen. 20 year old GK with Chelsea Eddie Beach. Been on bench for Chelsea’s first team at least once. Thx, I remember this, with regular young guns too. I thought it stopped and Apostle started in place.
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Post by iot on Jan 2, 2024 23:18:24 GMT
I think we have a pretty young team and are actually well covered for the future, up to 2028 Euros at least. Only exception is maybe at centre forward with Moore declining, but Cullen is having a good breakthrough season now, and plenty of teenage striker prospects too so shouldn't be a problem. Beck the next player to step up from Under-21's I expect, and Colwill and Harris already been in the first team squad. Ward, Williams, Beck, Davies, Rodon, Mepham, Ampadu, J James, Wilson, Johnson, Cullen should be nucleus of the team for a few years, with plenty of impact sub options too (D James, Brooks, Harris, Colwill, Broadhead etc. Maybe Matondo and Tyler Roberts also) Don't agree with you at all on Liam Cullen I'm afraid - I can only put it down to recency bias after he's scored in the last two games. But take a step back and you'll find a 24yo who's been in and out of a poor Swansea side with 4 goals (and 3 assists) in 25 appearances (15 starts/10 sub). He's a decent Championship player, probably not quite as good as Broadhead and certainly a step down from James (who is on 8 goals / 5 assists so far). Going back to the original question, I would say our best prospects are: Owen Beck LB (21) - been described as the best left back in the SPL in the first half of this season, and the best young player in the league Fin Stevens RB (20) - having a more than decent loan spell in League 1 with Oxford with talk of him being recalled to get another loan at a Championship club Luke Harris AM (18) - hasn't quite kicked on as much in the last year or two, but still very young. Smashed it at u23 level including a record 10-15min hattrick against Newcastle and then another hattrick against a strong Chelsea side (that included Ampadu). There were even rumours of Chelsea making a £40m bid for him at one point. Looks like he'll go out on loan this month for his first proper taste of senior football. Charlie Crew MF (17) - already been discussed, extremely highly rated Eddie Beach GK (20) - seen him a few times for the u21s and tbh I haven't been that impressed by him, but he's highly rated at club level so hopefully he's the answer to our goalkeeping problems! Freddie Issaka (17) - extremely pacey and made his debut for Plymouth at 15 I think - also had a few very brief cameos in the Championship this season, which is pretty good for a 17yo! Beyond that, I would give honourable mentions to: Centre backs - Joe Low (has quite a few of the raw ingredients, but Bristol City let him go last season and he's been in and out of the Wycombe side this season), Luca Hoole, Owen Bevan Midfielders - Charlie Savage (struggled a bit in L1 this season so doesn't make the top prospect list), Eli King, the Colwill brothers Forwards - Iwan Morgan and Gabriele Biancheri
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Post by saturn9 on Jan 3, 2024 12:12:11 GMT
I think we have a pretty young team and are actually well covered for the future, up to 2028 Euros at least. Only exception is maybe at centre forward with Moore declining, but Cullen is having a good breakthrough season now, and plenty of teenage striker prospects too so shouldn't be a problem. Beck the next player to step up from Under-21's I expect, and Colwill and Harris already been in the first team squad. Ward, Williams, Beck, Davies, Rodon, Mepham, Ampadu, J James, Wilson, Johnson, Cullen should be nucleus of the team for a few years, with plenty of impact sub options too (D James, Brooks, Harris, Colwill, Broadhead etc. Maybe Matondo and Tyler Roberts also) Don't agree with you at all on Liam Cullen I'm afraid - I can only put it down to recency bias after he's scored in the last two games. But take a step back and you'll find a 24yo who's been in and out of a poor Swansea side with 4 goals (and 3 assists) in 25 appearances (15 starts/10 sub). He's a decent Championship player, probably not quite as good as Broadhead and certainly a step down from James (who is on 8 goals / 5 assists so far). Going back to the original question, I would say our best prospects are: Owen Beck LB (21) - been described as the best left back in the SPL in the first half of this season, and the best young player in the league Fin Stevens RB (20) - having a more than decent loan spell in League 1 with Oxford with talk of him being recalled to get another loan at a Championship club Luke Harris AM (18) - hasn't quite kicked on as much in the last year or two, but still very young. Smashed it at u23 level including a record 10-15min hattrick against Newcastle and then another hattrick against a strong Chelsea side (that included Ampadu). There were even rumours of Chelsea making a £40m bid for him at one point. Looks like he'll go out on loan this month for his first proper taste of senior football. Charlie Crew MF (17) - already been discussed, extremely highly rated Eddie Beach GK (20) - seen him a few times for the u21s and tbh I haven't been that impressed by him, but he's highly rated at club level so hopefully he's the answer to our goalkeeping problems! Freddie Issaka (17) - extremely pacey and made his debut for Plymouth at 15 I think - also had a few very brief cameos in the Championship this season, which is pretty good for a 17yo! Beyond that, I would give honourable mentions to: Centre backs - Joe Low (has quite a few of the raw ingredients, but Bristol City let him go last season and he's been in and out of the Wycombe side this season), Luca Hoole, Owen Bevan Midfielders - Charlie Savage (struggled a bit in L1 this season so doesn't make the top prospect list), Eli King, the Colwill brothers Forwards - Iwan Morgan and Gabriele Biancheri How's Iwan getting on at Brentford B? Any ideas anyone.
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Post by dragonsoccer on Jan 3, 2024 12:22:47 GMT
Iwan Morgan, top of my head without double checking, last 2-3 months picked an injury, then returned Nov/Dec, a couple of B team appearances, on the scoresheet as well
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Post by dragonsoccer on Jan 3, 2024 12:23:36 GMT
Dragon soccer a great source of up and coming news. dragonsoccer.co.uk/newsite/index.phpI’ll name three that caught my while watching lower age games. Charlie Crew Leeds midfielder, England after him though. Alfie Tuck QPR midfield. Joe Belmont Brighton striker. There’s a lad at Man Utd Gabriel Biancheri striker but been a bit hit or miss from what I’ve seen. 20 year old GK with Chelsea Eddie Beach. Been on bench for Chelsea’s first team at least once. Thx, I remember this, with regular young guns too. I thought it stopped and Apostle started in place. forum / message closed years ago main website never went away into the 25th year now of being online
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jan 3, 2024 14:02:40 GMT
I think we have a pretty young team and are actually well covered for the future, up to 2028 Euros at least. Only exception is maybe at centre forward with Moore declining, but Cullen is having a good breakthrough season now, and plenty of teenage striker prospects too so shouldn't be a problem. Beck the next player to step up from Under-21's I expect, and Colwill and Harris already been in the first team squad. Ward, Williams, Beck, Davies, Rodon, Mepham, Ampadu, J James, Wilson, Johnson, Cullen should be nucleus of the team for a few years, with plenty of impact sub options too (D James, Brooks, Harris, Colwill, Broadhead etc. Maybe Matondo and Tyler Roberts also) Don't agree with you at all on Liam Cullen I'm afraid - I can only put it down to recency bias after he's scored in the last two games. But take a step back and you'll find a 24yo who's been in and out of a poor Swansea side with 4 goals (and 3 assists) in 25 appearances (15 starts/10 sub). He's a decent Championship player, probably not quite as good as Broadhead and certainly a step down from James (who is on 8 goals / 5 assists so far). Going back to the original question, I would say our best prospects are: Owen Beck LB (21) - been described as the best left back in the SPL in the first half of this season, and the best young player in the league Fin Stevens RB (20) - having a more than decent loan spell in League 1 with Oxford with talk of him being recalled to get another loan at a Championship club Luke Harris AM (18) - hasn't quite kicked on as much in the last year or two, but still very young. Smashed it at u23 level including a record 10-15min hattrick against Newcastle and then another hattrick against a strong Chelsea side (that included Ampadu). There were even rumours of Chelsea making a £40m bid for him at one point. Looks like he'll go out on loan this month for his first proper taste of senior football. Charlie Crew MF (17) - already been discussed, extremely highly rated Eddie Beach GK (20) - seen him a few times for the u21s and tbh I haven't been that impressed by him, but he's highly rated at club level so hopefully he's the answer to our goalkeeping problems! Freddie Issaka (17) - extremely pacey and made his debut for Plymouth at 15 I think - also had a few very brief cameos in the Championship this season, which is pretty good for a 17yo! Beyond that, I would give honourable mentions to: Centre backs - Joe Low (has quite a few of the raw ingredients, but Bristol City let him go last season and he's been in and out of the Wycombe side this season), Luca Hoole, Owen Bevan Midfielders - Charlie Savage (struggled a bit in L1 this season so doesn't make the top prospect list), Eli King, the Colwill brothers Forwards - Iwan Morgan and Gabriele Biancheri Even though I don't disagree fundamentally with your assessment of Cullen it's worth mentioning that he has played pretty much every game out wide right this season. A winger he certainly ain't, as he has neither pace nor trickery. Having said that he's more than just a poacher, as he has the ability to link play and works hard out of possession. I can't see him being the main man for us, but as a squad player it's quite likely he will feature.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jan 3, 2024 14:08:35 GMT
The other decent prospect is Swansea’s right back Sam Parker. Promising debut against Coventry where he outstripped Da Silva for pace to deliver an excellent cross which Bolasie should have scored from. Early days of course, but highly thought of.
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