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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2010 22:01:01 GMT
Ha ha. almost shakespearien that william. Leave Storm alone though. His suffering is palpable it gives a humanity to the board. We are all suffering watching wales lamentable woes pile up but when the blue skies of victory and qualification open up it will be a glorious day and i expect Storm to be dancing morrissey style with a bunch of daffodils. How did you guess that I like the Smiths?  Going by history we are due to go close once this coming decade so Im just hanging in there til it happens ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2010 23:00:21 GMT
If you can be bothered to read my posts back RD, you'll see that at no point did I say Joe Allen should be picked and then we should all just fold our arms and wait for him to do the business. Or anything like that in fact. I just think he's a much better player than Brian Stock. But it isn't just me, Flynn, Ferrie Bodde and his all of his club managers who rate Allen so highly. Kevin Nolan and Robbie Savage both named him in their top 5 players in the football league. I think only the most one eyed Doncaster fan would say the same thing about Stock. Well obviously. But what concerns me is that Stocks debut performance where he hardly gave the ball away and got us moving forward and outshone some of his more illustrious colleagues was not enough for you and some others. So if Stock is written off after one game where he played quite well, how much pressure is there then on Allen to perform? And if he has an average game will you write him off like you wrote off Stock? Probably not though, as Allen plays for a massive club whilst Stock plays for crappy Doncaster. It does amuse me I have to say that I give credit where its due yet I still get labelled negative by the forum dibble  |
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Post by ktj on Jul 28, 2010 13:42:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 13:52:58 GMT
Hilarious! Cue the accusastions of Swansea going backwards! ;D |
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 28, 2010 14:26:59 GMT
Not from me RD. I think that would be a good move for both Stock and Swansea. Again, you seem to be making assumptions from my posts that are based on ...well, I don't know exactly. I haven't 'written him off' as you put it, I just think Joe Allen is a better player. He's also only 20 so will develop into even better player, whereas at 28 Stock is at his peak. Yes, he did well against Russia, but we still lost that game by 2 goals, he still seemed a bit out of position for Russia's opener. It wasn't quite the outstanding debut that many on this board seem to think it was. I have nothing against Stock though- good luck to him if he goes to the Swans....OR if he stays at Donny.
Allen has done Ok in his 2 short substitute appearances and very well for the last 3 years with the U21s. He's being eased in to senior international football carefully which is as it should be. I don't think there's too much pressure on him- I'm not expecting him to play like Ramsey, I just think that if he's fit and playing for the Swans, he'll be able to come in against Montenegro and be tidy in possession and tight in defence as part of a 3 man midfield... if thats the way Tosh decides to go. But then that shows just how irrelevant all our arguing is when it comes to team selection, because its all just down to Toshack in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 14:41:01 GMT
Allen has done Ok in his 2 short substitute appearances and very well for the last 3 years with the U21s. He's being eased in to senior international football carefully which is as it should be. I don't think there's too much pressure on him- I'm not expecting him to play like Ramsey, I just think that if he's fit and playing for the Swans, he'll be able to come in against Montenegro and be tidy in possession and tight in defence as part of a 3 man midfield... if thats the way Tosh decides to go. But then that shows just how irrelevant all our arguing is when it comes to team selection, because its all just down to Toshack in the end. Ah, that explains it a lot better! Fair point about Stock being at fault for Russias first goal, he did enough to make amends though- he was one of the few to come out of it with any credit imo. His performance also suggested that he has real potential so I dont get why people knock him. He could be even better. Unfortunately it has taken him a long time to get where he currently is and it seems Doncaster like to price him out of any transfers. I suspect there is also a lack of ambition on the players part also. Were it to happen I think Allen/Stock in a defensive mid partnership for Swansea would be of great benefit to Wales. I could see those two complimenting each other well and forming a midfield 3 with Ramsey and Edwards/Collison and Bellamy in wide attacking positions behind Morison/Vokes/Church up top. |
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Post by Tim P on Jul 28, 2010 16:39:43 GMT
sounds like a good move for Wales, stock, and the jacks.
will this end the proposed interest from mourinho's madrid Project?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 20:12:51 GMT
sounds like a good move for Wales, stock, and the jacks. will this end the proposed interest from mourinho's madrid Project? Alsonso and Gago will be relieved men this evening. But, in all seriousnesss, this move cannot happen. Huw Jenkins doesn't spend £500k or more for 28 year olds at Doncaster. Swansea cannot afford to spend that sort of money on players than haven't got at least a 70% percent chance of recouping their outlay, which will rule Stock out immediately. And, to be frank, he would be a back up player, in any case- and that doesn't make any sort of financial sense to a chairman as frugal as Huw Jenkins. |
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 28, 2010 20:28:20 GMT
I don't think he'd cost anything like half a mil- only a year to go on his contract, and Donny probably won't want to lose him for nothing (like Swansea did with Britton..)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 21:38:02 GMT
sounds like a good move for Wales, stock, and the jacks. will this end the proposed interest from mourinho's madrid Project? Alsonso and Gago will be relieved men this evening. But, in all seriousnesss, this move cannot happen. Huw Jenkins doesn't spend £500k or more for 28 year olds at Doncaster. Swansea cannot afford to spend that sort of money on players than haven't got at least a 70% percent chance of recouping their outlay, which will rule Stock out immediately. And, to be frank, he would be a back up player, in any case- and that doesn't make any sort of financial sense to a chairman as frugal as Huw Jenkins. Best get on the blower and have a word then! How Id laugh if they paid good money and put him straight in the first XI. ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 22:03:59 GMT
Alsonso and Gago will be relieved men this evening. But, in all seriousnesss, this move cannot happen. Huw Jenkins doesn't spend £500k or more for 28 year olds at Doncaster. Swansea cannot afford to spend that sort of money on players than haven't got at least a 70% percent chance of recouping their outlay, which will rule Stock out immediately. And, to be frank, he would be a back up player, in any case- and that doesn't make any sort of financial sense to a chairman as frugal as Huw Jenkins. Best get on the blower and have a word then! How Id laugh if they paid good money and put him straight in the first XI. ;D Neither will happen- this is the product of idle speculation or, at best, a vague enquiry. It's not even moderatley substantive and would defy any logic. I wouldn't laugh if nothing came of this media chatter- no more than I will chortle at my defecating tomorrow. It's perdicatable, functional, and a little embarassing that the more uncouth among us have sought to verbalise the matter. |
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Post by Tim P on Jul 28, 2010 22:25:28 GMT
Tosh/Sav
Blair/Brown
Morrissey/Marr...
...WilliamWilson/Red Dragon
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2010 22:31:41 GMT
Tosh/Sav Blair/Brown Morrissey/Marr... ...WilliamWilson/Red Dragon I see Red Dragon more in the mould of Andy Rourke. Or the other one of the "talented two." Either way, the music would be better if he left the opiates well alone. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 0:33:33 GMT
What at the outset was entertaining is now becoming tedium, the reason I stopped visiting DS board.
William Wilson, you have thrown a few superaltives in, a few nice lines in here and there, which to be fair I commended you on a few posts back, but to be honest you have now become a self righteous boring cunt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 0:38:24 GMT
What at the outset was entertaining is now becoming tedium, the reason I stopped visiting DS board. William Wilson, you have thrown a few superaltives in, a few nice lines in here and there, which to be fair I commended you on a few posts back, but to be honest you have now become a self righteous boring cunt. If that is true, it is merely artifice. I am often right- seldom righteous. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 0:50:40 GMT
Maybe often misguided.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 0:54:17 GMT
One "maybe" anything. This is one of relatively few semantic certainties. |
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Post by walrus on Jul 29, 2010 1:45:37 GMT
Shakespeare? Wilde? Chaucer? Thomas.....?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2010 8:25:11 GMT
Shakespeare? Wilde? Chaucer? Thomas.....? Poe? |
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 29, 2010 10:14:47 GMT
More Laa-Laa than Po I reckon.
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