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Post by barry on Feb 19, 2019 19:09:32 GMT
Don't understand the negativity towards this at all, especially if it means Wales automatically qualify.
Chance to host some games in the world's greatest sporting occasion as well.
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Post by georgetm1 on Feb 20, 2019 0:19:25 GMT
People on here don't trust the English FA and the British government not to turn it into a festival of British nationalism and then call for a team GB.
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Feb 20, 2019 10:47:14 GMT
Don't understand the negativity towards this at all, especially if it means Wales automatically qualify. Chance to host some games in the world's greatest sporting occasion as well. Hosts wont automatically qualify, that's what opens up multiple countries hosting the event.
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Post by BA Baracus on Feb 20, 2019 11:01:18 GMT
Don't understand the negativity towards this at all, especially if it means Wales automatically qualify. Chance to host some games in the world's greatest sporting occasion as well. Hosts wont automatically qualify, that's what opens up multiple countries hosting the event. That settles it! Can you imagine the state of the place if we didn't qualify yet Cardiff (and it would only be Cardiff) was a host city... Wales' English-born residents would be flying the St George, pubs festooned with Union Jack bunting, the glory-hunting fair-weather Wales supporters backing England, Radio Wales holding a "We're all English aren't we phone-in", . ... it would be like a Tommy Robinson parade all over Wales. I've got a Cold War Steve image of it in my head right now. It's horrible.
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Post by insertname on Feb 20, 2019 13:13:33 GMT
Glad to hear most are against it. What a pathetic specimen the world cup has become: 48 teams, potentially 5 host countries. The IP needs rescuing from FIFA who simply can't be trusted with it anymore. Quantity and money over quality.
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Post by richierich333 on Feb 20, 2019 13:42:10 GMT
Hosts wont automatically qualify, that's what opens up multiple countries hosting the event. That settles it! Can you imagine the state of the place if we didn't qualify yet Cardiff (and it would only be Cardiff) was a host city... Wales' English-born residents would be flying the St George, pubs festooned with Union Jack bunting, the glory-hunting fair-weather Wales supporters backing England, Radio Wales holding a "We're all English aren't we phone-in", . ... it would be like a Tommy Robinson parade all over Wales. I've got a Cold War Steve image of it in my head right now. It's horrible. Is this a serious post? You've shoehorned the EDL, a far right movement against islam, into 'multiple countries don't auto qualify'. If someone is English they can wave their flag and support them all they want and be proud of it. Proud to be Welsh = good, proud to be English = racist. I'm not English but this is offensive.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 20, 2019 13:45:29 GMT
Don't understand the negativity towards this at all, especially if it means Wales automatically qualify. Chance to host some games in the world's greatest sporting occasion as well. Hosts wont automatically qualify, that's what opens up multiple countries hosting the event. Surely in a 46 team tournament they could afford to let a handful of countries qualify automatically?
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Post by 1gwaunview on Feb 20, 2019 16:21:18 GMT
Hosts wont automatically qualify, that's what opens up multiple countries hosting the event. Surely in a 46 team tournament they could afford to let a handful of countries qualify automatically? By 2030 everyone will qualify automatically, and the tournament will last 3 months. 32 should be the absolute max imo. 16 was the World Cup at its best.
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Post by barry on Feb 20, 2019 16:31:26 GMT
Surely in a 46 team tournament they could afford to let a handful of countries qualify automatically? By 2030 everyone will qualify automatically, and the tournament will last 3 months. 32 should be the absolute max imo. 16 was the World Cup at its best. I think 32 is about right. With groups of three there will be no simultaneous last group games. They were often very exciting.
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Post by conwy10 on Feb 21, 2019 11:10:12 GMT
Glad to hear most are against it. What a pathetic specimen the world cup has become: 48 teams, potentially 5 host countries. The IP needs rescuing from FIFA who simply can't be trusted with it anymore. Quantity and money over quality. I hate the multiple hosts, this Euros are going to be so underwhelming. We win the group in Azerbaijan, we play Iceland who won their group in Portugal before playing Serbia in Ireland, Sweden in Germany.... I like the more teams though, gives more a chance on the big stage. In the last Euros Wales made it a spectacle. Iceland, Northern Ireland and a few others too. Spain, England etc didn’t. The last World Cup was made special by Croatia, Russia and that those teams that made the semis. People won’t remember Germany for the right reasons. If a World Cup was scaled back it’d mean nothing to me. I don’t want to see the very elite contest it, I want to see if one of the underdogs can make them sweat or bring an upset when it really matters, not when they have 10 games to correct it. The same way the minnows make the FA Cup special the big teams have to bring it every match.
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 21, 2019 11:35:36 GMT
32 was a good number for the World Cup
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Post by CrackityJones on Feb 21, 2019 11:45:10 GMT
Any more than 32 teams and a maximum of two host countries is just being silly.
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Post by superunknown on Mar 1, 2021 22:43:50 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 1, 2021 23:14:06 GMT
All confirmed & speculated bids so far;
Morocco (possibly with Algeria & Tunisia) - confirmed plan to bid
Uruguay with Argentina, Paraguay & Chile - confirmed plan to bid
Romania, Greece, Serbia & Bulgaria - confirmed plan to bid
Spain & Portugal - confirmed plan to bid
England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland & Ireland - confirmed plan to bid
Cameroon - expressed interest
Egypt - expressed interest
Colombia, Ecuador & Peru - expressed interest
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Post by hal on Mar 1, 2021 23:27:26 GMT
All confirmed & speculated bids so far; Morocco (possibly with Algeria & Tunisia) - confirmed plan to bid Uruguay with Argentina, Paraguay & Chile - confirmed plan to bid Romania, Greece, Serbia & Bulgaria - confirmed plan to bid Spain & Portugal - confirmed plan to bid England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland & Ireland - confirmed plan to bid Cameroon - expressed interest Egypt - expressed interest Colombia, Ecuador & Peru - expressed interest I think it will be between Spain & Portugal and us. Qatar (Asia) have 2022, North America in 2026, will probably be European one. Can’t see Romania, Serbia etc as Russia was not long ago.
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 1, 2021 23:33:19 GMT
All confirmed & speculated bids so far; Morocco (possibly with Algeria & Tunisia) - confirmed plan to bid Uruguay with Argentina, Paraguay & Chile - confirmed plan to bid Romania, Greece, Serbia & Bulgaria - confirmed plan to bid Spain & Portugal - confirmed plan to bid England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland & Ireland - confirmed plan to bid Cameroon - expressed interest Egypt - expressed interest Colombia, Ecuador & Peru - expressed interest I think it will be between Spain & Portugal and us. Qatar (Asia) have 2022, North America in 2026, will probably be European one. Can’t see Romania, Serbia etc as Russia was not long ago. Morocco scored quite poorly for their 2026 bid so it'll be a surprise if they get it, otherwise I thought Africa may get a WC It'll be South America or Europe, most likely between the UK&Ire, Spain/Portugal and Uruguay bids imo
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 1, 2021 23:39:04 GMT
Hosts wont automatically qualify, that's what opens up multiple countries hosting the event. That settles it! Can you imagine the state of the place if we didn't qualify yet Cardiff (and it would only be Cardiff) was a host city... Wales' English-born residents would be flying the St George, pubs festooned with Union Jack bunting, the glory-hunting fair-weather Wales supporters backing England, Radio Wales holding a "We're all English aren't we phone-in", . ... it would be like a Tommy Robinson parade all over Wales. I've got a Cold War Steve image of it in my head right now. It's horrible. Surely the 75,000 seater R.R McReynolds Racecourse should host a few... Bang on with Cardiff though. The fan zones last World Cup supporting England were cringeworthy.
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 2, 2021 0:01:26 GMT
Any more than 32 teams and a maximum of two host countries is just being silly. I quite like the idea of expanding. For me I enjoy the stages that come with it. I love seeing the underdogs getting one over the big boys but when the groups are done I enjoy seeing the heavyweights go at it. Even though it’s probably more down to money why not make more fans happy and give them memories of a lifetime on the greatest stage of world football. The big boys might say it’ll water it down and get boring but I would love every minute seeing Wales against Central African Republic in Los Angeles, actually I’d probably hate it but for all the best reasons in the world.
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Post by cynonvalley on Mar 2, 2021 0:24:44 GMT
R32 after the three-team group stage, right?
I would rather Uruguay and others get it tbh. The final at the Estadio Centenario.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 2, 2021 0:50:59 GMT
R32 after the three-team group stage, right? I would rather Uruguay and others get it tbh. The final at the Estadio Centenario. Yeah for me the strongest bids will be the home nation bid & the Uruguayan bids To be completely honest the more I think about it, the more I think the Uruguayan bid is the favourite. Not only does it mark the 100th anniversary of the first World Cup which took place in Uruguay, but the last European WC will have been more recent too (2018) than the last South American one (2014) I imagine the reason the home nations want this one is because China will almost certainly take either the 2034 or the 2038 edition, and will want to avoid competing with them. I'd also expect whichever one China takes, the other will go back to Africa - Morocco/North Africa stands a good chance then
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Mar 2, 2021 6:59:01 GMT
The strongest bid would be Uruguay, and the centenary of the first world cup. It's all set up for that really, and it'd take some convincing to sway it from that.
As for the multiple hosts qualifiying question, it's still up in the air really. The 2026 World Cup has three hosts, and the expectation is that all three will get automatic qualification, but nothing's been announced or confirmed yet. Five would definitely be pushing it though.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Mar 2, 2021 8:23:37 GMT
Can’t say I’m a massive fan of the FAW bidding with the UK and Ireland. As said above, we’d be lucky to get a r16 game.
An utter disgrace how Wembley gets the semis and a final for the 2020 Euros btw. Thought the whole idea of 12 host nations would be to spread the games around. Likely to be the same if ‘we’ are successful in 2030.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 2, 2021 10:59:35 GMT
If it is a 48 team tournament, I don't see why you couldn't have all 5 nations qualify automatically
In a 32 team tournament with 2 hosts you'd have 30 other qualifiers
In a 48 team tournament with 5 hosts you'd have 43 qualifiers. The way I see it that's still plenty of opportunity for countries to qualify
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Mar 2, 2021 11:19:05 GMT
If it is a 48 team tournament, I don't see why you couldn't have all 5 nations qualify automatically In a 32 team tournament with 2 hosts you'd have 30 other qualifiers In a 48 team tournament with 5 hosts you'd have 43 qualifiers. The way I see it that's still plenty of opportunity for countries to qualify Yes, but the five hosts are all from the same federation. They intend for there to be 16 European sides in a 48 team tournament, but there'd be 21. You've still got 27 countries from other nations, which is more than there currently is, but the intent of having a much larger tournament at least on paper is to have much greater representation from Africa, Asia and the Americas.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 2, 2021 11:23:19 GMT
If it is a 48 team tournament, I don't see why you couldn't have all 5 nations qualify automatically In a 32 team tournament with 2 hosts you'd have 30 other qualifiers In a 48 team tournament with 5 hosts you'd have 43 qualifiers. The way I see it that's still plenty of opportunity for countries to qualify Yes, but the five hosts are all from the same federation. They intend for there to be 16 European sides in a 48 team tournament, but there'd be 21. You've still got 27 countries from other nations, which is more than there currently is, but the intent of having a much larger tournament at least on paper is to have much greater representation from Africa, Asia and the Americas. But they may well decide to shift those proportions on a tournament to tournament basis, depending on the federation hosting. If Uruguay, Paraguay, Argentina & Chile we're hosting they'd have to do the same You wouldn't necessarily have to take them all away from other federations as well, you could have less European teams qualifying for that particular tournament for example
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Post by arfonprinceofwales on Mar 2, 2021 11:44:36 GMT
Wales back playing in the MillStad eh?
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Post by daearegwr on Mar 2, 2021 11:52:57 GMT
Can’t say I’m a massive fan of the FAW bidding with the UK and Ireland. As said above, we’d be lucky to get a r16 game. An utter disgrace how Wembley gets the semis and a final for the 2020 Euros btw. Thought the whole idea of 12 host nations would be to spread the games around. Likely to be the same if ‘we’ are successful in 2030. Whilst it would be great to have a local World Cup as something I'd be able to easily attend it does feel a bit like it's the England world cup bid with a token gesture giving one venue to the other countries. Can't see Wales having more than the Millen Stad included. Aviva in Republic of Ireland. Where in Northern Ireland as Windsor Park at 18,000 is too small? Minimum capacity is 40,000 for a world cup according to wikipedia.
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Post by evans1282 on Mar 2, 2021 12:01:27 GMT
That settles it! Can you imagine the state of the place if we didn't qualify yet Cardiff (and it would only be Cardiff) was a host city... Wales' English-born residents would be flying the St George, pubs festooned with Union Jack bunting, the glory-hunting fair-weather Wales supporters backing England, Radio Wales holding a "We're all English aren't we phone-in", . ... it would be like a Tommy Robinson parade all over Wales. I've got a Cold War Steve image of it in my head right now. It's horrible. Is this a serious post? You've shoehorned the EDL, a far right movement against islam, into 'multiple countries don't auto qualify'. If someone is English they can wave their flag and support them all they want and be proud of it. Proud to be Welsh = good, proud to be English = racist. I'm not English but this is offensive. Not really the point mentioned fair weather Welsh fans supporting England and our streets covered by their flags,racist? Utter bollocks man! The missuse of that word ,is part of why the accusation ,when it's true ,loses its power.
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Post by jbt95 on Mar 2, 2021 13:37:42 GMT
Think there are only positives to this.
Yes, it's likely it will only be Cardiff, Dublin, Edinburgh and Glasgow outside of England, but if we can host 5 or 6 games in Cardiff then that is a positive.
I think they'd want either a semi or the 3rd place game in Cardiff.
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 2, 2021 14:30:47 GMT
That settles it! Can you imagine the state of the place if we didn't qualify yet Cardiff (and it would only be Cardiff) was a host city... Wales' English-born residents would be flying the St George, pubs festooned with Union Jack bunting, the glory-hunting fair-weather Wales supporters backing England, Radio Wales holding a "We're all English aren't we phone-in", . ... it would be like a Tommy Robinson parade all over Wales. I've got a Cold War Steve image of it in my head right now. It's horrible. Surely the 75,000 seater R.R McReynolds Racecourse should host a few... Bang on with Cardiff though. The fan zones last World Cup supporting England were cringeworthy. What fan zones? There were chain bars offering deals but I can't recall any fanzones in Cardiff What would be the issue with English people supporting their country in Cardiff? There are people who support Wales in every English city
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