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Post by fiveattheback on Dec 19, 2018 16:30:28 GMT
To prevent support for Wales from becoming a completely closed shop tickets should be offered on a first come first served basis. I'm tempted to say to suggest that those with a north and mid Wales postcode should be given priority, but that would be trolling, and it's Xmas. But seriously, this is a great chance to promote the game in north Wales, especially with the next generation of supporters in mind. With so many qualifying games being held on week days a lot of kids from the north are missing out on following their country. If this means that some fans with a gazillion points miss out, I suggest they think of the bigger picture, rather than having a sense of entitlement. I'm not sure that getting tickets for a friendly against Trinidad & Tobago is the best way for football to be promoted in North Wales. More of those training sessions with the squad would be more beneficial imo
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Post by alarch on Dec 19, 2018 17:26:54 GMT
To prevent support for Wales from becoming a completely closed shop tickets should be offered on a first come first served basis. I'm tempted to say to suggest that those with a north and mid Wales postcode should be given priority, but that would be trolling, and it's Xmas. But seriously, this is a great chance to promote the game in north Wales, especially with the next generation of supporters in mind. With so many qualifying games being held on week days a lot of kids from the north are missing out on following their country. If this means that some fans with a gazillion points miss out, I suggest they think of the bigger picture, rather than having a sense of entitlement. I'm not sure that getting tickets for a friendly against Trinidad & Tobago is the best way for football to be promoted in North Wales. More of those training sessions with the squad would be more beneficial imo I'm not sure you've thought that comment through - because it comes across as seriously patronising to north Wales supporters. They don't even deserve to see Wales in a meaningless "B" friendly against T & T! Nah, let's just have the odd training session...
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Post by cadno on Dec 19, 2018 17:27:44 GMT
It's a shame the Kop can't be open. By all accounts the Kop roof is in a state of disrepair and the terracing/barriers aren't safe for standing on anymore. Been closed for 10 years. If Wales start playing some friendlies there more regularly, together with Wrexham getting promoted (fingers crossed), then hopefully they can renovate the Kop. Maybe safe standing? That would be great.
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Post by fiveattheback on Dec 19, 2018 18:09:58 GMT
I'm not sure that getting tickets for a friendly against Trinidad & Tobago is the best way for football to be promoted in North Wales. More of those training sessions with the squad would be more beneficial imo I'm not sure you've thought that comment through - because it comes across as seriously patronising to north Wales supporters. They don't even deserve to see Wales in a meaningless "B" friendly against T & T! Nah, let's just have the odd training session... That's not at all what I'm saying. Its a response to you saying that this should be first come first served and would promote football in North Wales. I don't think seeing Trinidad & Tobago play what will undoubtedly be a weakened Welsh team would be as effective for youngsters as going to see them in training, meeting the players etc. Same goes for any other part of the country. There's no need to put words in my mouth (or onto my keyboard ) to try and manufacture an argument
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Post by manulike on Dec 19, 2018 18:52:51 GMT
Think it might be a little tricky for the FAW to use only TT for this. EC 2016 qualifying campaign, we only had 3500 (I think that was full TT plus another 4k half TT?). WC 2018 qualifiers we had 19500...
Assuming the RC had circa 10k capacity, where do they draw the line? Those with half TT in 2016?
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Dec 19, 2018 19:05:12 GMT
Save all the hassle move to MS
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Post by oscardelta on Dec 19, 2018 21:32:06 GMT
I bet we would have beaten ROI in WCQ if we played at the Racecourse. Doubt it.
You just were not at the races that day.
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Post by georgeberrysheadband on Dec 19, 2018 21:56:51 GMT
Think it might be a little tricky for the FAW to use only TT for this. EC 2016 qualifying campaign, we only had 3500 (I think that was full TT plus another 4k half TT?). WC 2018 qualifiers we had 19500... Assuming the RC had circa 10k capacity, where do they draw the line? Those with half TT in 2016? Any idea how many were sold for the 2020 qualifiers?
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Post by manulike on Dec 19, 2018 22:28:31 GMT
Think it might be a little tricky for the FAW to use only TT for this. EC 2016 qualifying campaign, we only had 3500 (I think that was full TT plus another 4k half TT?). WC 2018 qualifiers we had 19500... Assuming the RC had circa 10k capacity, where do they draw the line? Those with half TT in 2016? Any idea how many were sold for the 2020 qualifiers? Yes. As per FSF in late November: 13,500 with 21,000 membership of Red Wall
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Post by alarch on Dec 19, 2018 22:28:52 GMT
I'm not sure you've thought that comment through - because it comes across as seriously patronising to north Wales supporters. They don't even deserve to see Wales in a meaningless "B" friendly against T & T! Nah, let's just have the odd training session... That's not at all what I'm saying. Its a response to you saying that this should be first come first served and would promote football in North Wales. I don't think seeing Trinidad & Tobago play what will undoubtedly be a weakened Welsh team would be as effective for youngsters as going to see them in training, meeting the players etc. Same goes for any other part of the country. There's no need to put words in my mouth (or onto my keyboard ) to try and manufacture an argument Fair enough I guess. I just think it's a strange perspective. I can't think of any kid, or adult for that matter, preferring to see a training session over a game.
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Post by chislenko on Dec 19, 2018 23:37:21 GMT
It's a shame the Kop can't be open. Agree cadno, spent many a good night on there watching Wales back in the day. I feel for Wrexham fans who "grew up" on the kop and now can only look at it empty every game. One game which stands out for me we beat Turkey in a euro qualifier, late 70s maybe, I was hitch hiking back to Chester, a car stopped, I got in and it was four Turks from London, I was made up when they dropped me off in one piece!!
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Post by welshiron on Dec 20, 2018 9:15:30 GMT
Think it might be a little tricky for the FAW to use only TT for this. EC 2016 qualifying campaign, we only had 3500 (I think that was full TT plus another 4k half TT?). WC 2018 qualifiers we had 19500... Assuming the RC had circa 10k capacity, where do they draw the line? Those with half TT in 2016? They find a way for away games so should do the same for home games.
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Post by fieldtownred on Dec 20, 2018 12:48:02 GMT
Think it might be a little tricky for the FAW to use only TT for this. EC 2016 qualifying campaign, we only had 3500 (I think that was full TT plus another 4k half TT?). WC 2018 qualifiers we had 19500... Assuming the RC had circa 10k capacity, where do they draw the line? Those with half TT in 2016? Panama friendly had about 8,000. Cant see the Racecourse selling out to tournament ticket holders so there’ll be some left for North Wales general public.
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Post by Toffeeman on Dec 20, 2018 13:40:14 GMT
Wales v Panama had an attendance of 13,737.
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Dec 20, 2018 13:48:29 GMT
Why can"t the FAW give out free at least 3000 tickets to schools?
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Post by fieldtownred on Dec 20, 2018 15:40:14 GMT
Wales v Panama had an attendance of 13,737. Oops, my mistake!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2018 8:48:40 GMT
It's a shame the Kop can't be open. Agree cadno, spent many a good night on there watching Wales back in the day. I feel for Wrexham fans who "grew up" on the kop and now can only look at it empty every game. One game which stands out for me we beat Turkey in a euro qualifier, late 70s maybe, I was hitch hiking back to Chester, a car stopped, I got in and it was four Turks from London, I was made up when they dropped me off in one piece!! What's the issue with the Kop at Wrexham? I haven't been there in years so I'm out of the loop. Is it unsafe? I know they'd had the same problems with wannabe ground thieves that Chester City or Hereford United had. Thankfully Wrexham didn't go out of business.
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Post by jbt95 on Dec 21, 2018 14:13:16 GMT
Maybe not. One thing they should do is include this game in away criteria for tickets moving forward though (I don't plan on going to any away games in 2019). Idiots who want to cause bad behaviour abroad up won't go to Wrexham on a Wednesday night! Don't let them have access to tickets for Croatia in my opinion! Anybody who goes away has no excuse not to go to Wrexham. It is not an away game - it is a home friendly. Why should away point count? You seem very South Wales centric. I trust the FAW will have the right structure in place to sell these tickets. How am I South Wales centric? This game is in North Wales so is easier for people up North to go to.
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Post by jbt95 on Dec 21, 2018 14:14:28 GMT
Why can"t the FAW give out free at least 3000 tickets to schools? The game will be sold out so pointless giving away free tickets, especially 30% of the ground. That would be lost revenue.
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Post by jbt95 on Dec 21, 2018 14:15:20 GMT
Any idea how many were sold for the 2020 qualifiers? Yes. As per FSF in late November: 13,500 with 21,000 membership of Red Wall
Not everybody will go anyway, midweek and a fair bit of travelling for a friendly when we have a game in Cardiff a few days later, which is my reasoning why it should then be included in the away criteria moving forward. If you can't do it on a cold wet March Wednesday in Wrexham, you shouldn't be given access to tickets for a sunny warm June Croatian stag do/match - at least initially. I don't plan on going to any of our away games in 2019 so it wouldn't be for my benefit, but there certainly are people out there who are only attending away games and those prioritising away games over home games.
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 21, 2018 15:14:00 GMT
Yes. As per FSF in late November: 13,500 with 21,000 membership of Red Wall
Not everybody will go anyway, midweek and a fair bit of travelling for a friendly when we have a game in Cardiff a few days later, which is my reasoning why it should then be included in the away criteria moving forward. If you can't do it on a cold wet March Wednesday in Wrexham, you shouldn't be given access to tickets for a sunny warm June Croatian stag do/match - at least initially. I don't plan on going to any of our away games in 2019 so it wouldn't be for my benefit, but there certainly are people out there who are only attending away games and those prioritising away games over home games. It’s a home game though not an away game so shouldn’t count towards away points if it was in St David’s, Swansea, Cardiff, Amlwch or Wrexham! For some it’s easier to get to away games rather than home. Have you ever thought this may be wise they “prioritise” these games? This is primarily down to the poor infrastructure we have inherited from Westminster! I am sure England fans based up North have similar challenges with England home games.
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Post by cymroircarn on Dec 21, 2018 15:32:17 GMT
Yes. As per FSF in late November: 13,500 with 21,000 membership of Red Wall
Not everybody will go anyway, midweek and a fair bit of travelling for a friendly when we have a game in Cardiff a few days later, which is my reasoning why it should then be included in the away criteria moving forward. If you can't do it on a cold wet March Wednesday in Wrexham, you shouldn't be given access to tickets for a sunny warm June Croatian stag do/match - at least initially. I don't plan on going to any of our away games in 2019 so it wouldn't be for my benefit, but there certainly are people out there who are only attending away games and those prioritising away games over home games. Previous you suggested banning fans who missed friendlies.Now we have more TT’s that capacity of Wrexham. Still think it’s a good idea?!
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Post by BA Baracus on Dec 21, 2018 15:42:23 GMT
Yes. As per FSF in late November: 13,500 with 21,000 membership of Red Wall
Not everybody will go anyway, midweek and a fair bit of travelling for a friendly when we have a game in Cardiff a few days later, which is my reasoning why it should then be included in the away criteria moving forward. If you can't do it on a cold wet March Wednesday in Wrexham, you shouldn't be given access to tickets for a sunny warm June Croatian stag do/match - at least initially. I don't plan on going to any of our away games in 2019 so it wouldn't be for my benefit, but there certainly are people out there who are only attending away games and those prioritising away games over home games. The how to lose fans and alienate people approach! I think it makes more sense to keep the Home ticketing system and the Away ticketing system separate.
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Post by BA Baracus on Dec 21, 2018 15:50:43 GMT
I suspect if the away points approach was used for Wrexham then a huge amount of kids and pensioners would miss out, women too.
The FAW would also be shooting itself in the foot after years of people calling for a match at the Racecourse only to announce one then limit tickets to an exclusive group.
Besides, it's the home fans that bring the money in to the FAW innit.
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Post by jj1992 on Jan 8, 2019 8:46:55 GMT
Any news on when tickets will be released for this?
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Post by georgetm1 on Jan 8, 2019 17:36:39 GMT
It's about time we had a game in North Wales, the Denmark game cost me over £200 (train, ticket and somewhere to stay the night) including having to take two days off work. The cost is ridiculous and the FAW need to remember the cost for North Wales fans and the fact only we and the Palestinians have to go through another country to get to the other end of ours.
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 8, 2019 18:20:49 GMT
It's about time we had a game in North Wales, the Denmark game cost me over £200 (train, ticket and somewhere to stay the night) including having to take two days off work. The cost is ridiculous and the FAW need to remember the cost for North Wales fans and the fact only we and the Palestinians have to go through another country to get to the other end of ours. You don’t “have” to go through another country though. Whenever I have driven from north/south or vice versa never had to go through England. On the other hand Croatian fans in Dubrovnik need to go through another country to see their national team play
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 8, 2019 19:38:12 GMT
It's about time we had a game in North Wales, the Denmark game cost me over £200 (train, ticket and somewhere to stay the night) including having to take two days off work. The cost is ridiculous and the FAW need to remember the cost for North Wales fans and the fact only we and the Palestinians have to go through another country to get to the other end of ours. You don’t “have” to go through another country though. Whenever I have driven from north/south or vice versa never had to go through England. On the other hand Croatian fans in Dubrovnik need to go through another country to see their national team play FYI, the journey to Cardiff takes me through England, whether I go by train or car. I count myself lucky however as my journey is only 3 hours with a good run, compared to the guys up in Holyhead who have at least a 4.5 hour journey.
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Post by biwmares on Jan 8, 2019 20:03:40 GMT
You don’t “have” to go through another country though. Whenever I have driven from north/south or vice versa never had to go through England. On the other hand Croatian fans in Dubrovnik need to go through another country to see their national team play FYI, the journey to Cardiff takes me through England, whether I go by train or car. I count myself lucky however as my journey is only 3 hours with a good run, compared to the guys up in Holyhead who have at least a 4.5 hour journey. Same here the A470 is an awful road & especially if you get stuck behind them bloody tractors or caravans its even worse. A49 OR M5 are the quickest routes. On the subject of going into England to get to other parts of Wales. Beeching & his vandalism www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/permanent-damage-beeching-wales-rail-6934180
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 9, 2019 9:16:18 GMT
Not doubting it can be quicker via M5 (depending on time of day) but original poster stated he “had” to go via another country which is unlikely to be he case, there is a choice.
A470 has seen improvement but has a long way to go.
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