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Post by erasedcitizen on May 25, 2021 7:09:43 GMT
No chance this is happening now for fans, shame. Something like this could even put the game itself in jeopardy. Suspect they'd just move it to a neutral country though? As things stand it is just direct flights from the UK to the Belarus that have been banned, we can still enter the country or go via another country? I suppose it depends on how much UK and the EU want to 'look hard' to Russia's little brother. If it all gets a bit tempestuous, I guess that playing in a neutral country is an option. It's difficult to predict exactly what will happen, as I don't remember anything like this happening in Europe before. To me, it seems extremely unlikely that there will be any resolve before our game in September. It'll be very difficult to travel into Belarus. |
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Post by aberbeeg on May 25, 2021 8:23:51 GMT
Belurus definitely won’t be playing any home games within their country borders. This is a deadly serious matter and both the EU and the UK have come down hard on them. In fact a lot of MPs are wanting the Government to go a lot further.
I guess the only option is for them to play at neutral venues but excluding Russia then Belarus don’t have many Allies.
Certainly don’t expect this to be sorted anytime soon. Plus don’t fancy the chances of getting refunds from any Belarus airlines.
Good chance they could be kicked out of the tournament I guess.
We definitely won’t be visiting Minsk this year.
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2021 12:01:54 GMT
... I remember the World powers "coming down hard" on Russia after they shot down a Malaysian airplane over Ukraine... by going ahead with WC 2018 ...
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Post by gwernybwch on May 25, 2021 19:43:01 GMT
... I remember the World powers "coming down hard" on Russia after they shot down a Malaysian airplane over Ukraine... by going ahead with WC 2018 ... There is nothing more that the Eton boys like to do than give the weaklings a damn good thrashing. Especially one where it has limited impact on themselves (i.e. stop a few flights per week). Standing up to the big bully boys of Europe (Russia) - even if they kill an entire planeful of innocent people - well that is something totally different. There is no way that UEFA will throw Belarus out. In fact it could even play into their hands. The Welsh having to fly to the next closest country and then a tiring overland journey to Minsk or a few brown envelopes of used Rubbles towards UEFA officials and the game will be moved to a 'neutral' venue like Russia. |
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Post by manulike on May 25, 2021 20:41:50 GMT
... I remember the World powers "coming down hard" on Russia after they shot down a Malaysian airplane over Ukraine... by going ahead with WC 2018 ... There is nothing more that the Eton boys like to do than give the weaklings a damn good thrashing. Especially one where it has limited impact on themselves (i.e. stop a few flights per week). Standing up to the big bully boys of Europe (Russia) - even if they kill an entire planeful of innocent people - well that is something totally different. There is no way that UEFA will throw Belarus out. In fact it could even play into their hands. The Welsh having to fly to the next closest country and then a tiring overland journey to Minsk or a few brown envelopes of used Rubbles towards UEFA officials and the game will be moved to a 'neutral' venue like Russia. I like the sound of a 'neutral' venue like Russia - yes please! |
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 1, 2021 12:17:44 GMT
Big EU meeting today RE Belarus
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Post by manulike on Jun 1, 2021 22:10:43 GMT
Big EU meeting today RE Belarus Belarus bans most citizens from going abroad
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Post by gwernybwch on Jun 28, 2021 6:56:52 GMT
Can anyone recall how many days before the game a host has to name which city the game has to be played in? I think that there is a rule that a game has to be played a certain distance from an international airport isn't there?
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Post by superunknown on Jun 28, 2021 6:59:58 GMT
Can anyone recall how many days before the game a host has to name which city the game has to be played in? I think that there is a rule that a game has to be played a certain distance from an international airport isn't there? 3 months usually, though that deadline would now have passed. |
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Post by sleepy on Jun 28, 2021 7:15:18 GMT
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Post by manulike on Jun 28, 2021 20:55:15 GMT
A totally stunning stadium, less than a mile from the centre. That said, Sunday's is not the best day to be in the city centre, one gets the impression ;-(
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Post by welrus on Jun 29, 2021 20:07:53 GMT
Going to be tough to get to this based on current restrictions, even if it changes from an Amber country or double vacs are allowed to waive. Foreigners not allowed entry by land border at the moment (due to COVID I think) and flights from the West suspended. So I guess the only real route would be to fly to Russia and plane in from there.
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Post by jbt95 on Jun 30, 2021 21:21:30 GMT
There's next to no chance of Wales fans being at this game, or the two in October. Let's just be honest.
The FAW will not sell away tickets when the Welsh Government advice is not to travel abroad. That is unlikely to change at all this year.
Let's hope we get some big stadia in the nations league next summer and everybody can go away after 2 and a half years without doing so.
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Post by benrhosgad on Jul 1, 2021 9:37:15 GMT
There's next to no chance of Wales fans being at this game, or the two in October. Let's just be honest. The FAW will not sell away tickets when the Welsh Government advice is not to travel abroad. That is unlikely to change at all this year. Let's hope we get some big stadia in the nations league next summer and everybody can go away after 2 and a half years without doing so. im afraid you are right. Belarus is no go to tourist at the moment so the game is in two months. Our best bet is in October but still very doubtful |
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Post by Toffeeman on Jul 1, 2021 11:48:16 GMT
There's next to no chance of Wales fans being at this game, or the two in October. Let's just be honest. The FAW will not sell away tickets when the Welsh Government advice is not to travel abroad. That is unlikely to change at all this year. Let's hope we get some big stadia in the nations league next summer and everybody can go away after 2 and a half years without doing so. im afraid you are right. Belarus is no go to tourist at the moment so the game is in two months. Our best bet is in October but still very doubtful I agree - travel regulations seem to be an ever changing beast.Traffic lights system being adapted all the time; along with new variants adding to the confusion. |
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Post by manulike on Jul 2, 2021 15:44:25 GMT
#Live.Life.In.Hope
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Post by Agent B on Jul 2, 2021 23:08:57 GMT
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Post by manulike on Jul 3, 2021 17:16:21 GMT
Oh. Kazan is lovely. About 15 years back, I did the Volga cruise all the way from Volgograd to Moscow via Kazan - brilliant ride, cost me about a tenner!
I think it was 8-10 hours between Kazan and Moscow. |
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 3, 2021 20:38:09 GMT
Yhats even harder to get to....
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Post by jimbo82 on Jul 4, 2021 12:40:18 GMT
Just a thought: would UEFA sanction a change of venue that adds 1000s of miles of travelling for the visiting teams?
Usually the neutral venue is in between (eg. Wales at Anfield, Israel in Cyprus)
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Post by Brecon Jack on Jul 4, 2021 16:55:35 GMT
There's next to no chance of Wales fans being at this game, or the two in October. Let's just be honest. The FAW will not sell away tickets when the Welsh Government advice is not to travel abroad. That is unlikely to change at all this year. Let's hope we get some big stadia in the nations league next summer and everybody can go away after 2 and a half years without doing so. It looks like Czech Republic and Estonia are going to be green countries from 19th July. |
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Post by Toffeeman on Jul 5, 2021 10:38:34 GMT
The mechanics of the traffic light system
is one issue to consider,which can change quickly if there is a particular change in the circumstance of a nation such as Portugal recently.But the current Welsh Goverment stance on foreign travel is not advisable to do so.While such a message remains in place, I cannot see how FAW can sell,arrange or distribute away match tickets as they would be acting in an opposite manner to the goverment advice.Uness Welsh Goverment softens it's message,the only Welsh fans at the forthcoming away matches will be those residing outside the UK.
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Post by bolter on Jul 5, 2021 10:41:52 GMT
... Unless Welsh Government softens it's message,the only Welsh fans at the forthcoming away matches will be those residing outside the UK. plus those that choose to ignore the advice and source their tickets elsewhere |
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Post by Gary Williams on Jul 5, 2021 12:59:18 GMT
so everyone isnt confused any declaration on where you should travel to isnt a devolved power its for the foreign and commonwealth office to do so.they normally but not excusilvely they follow that green you can travel and advise against bar essentail to amber countries and red you shouldnt travel based on englands colour light system
and this will determine if your insured and if flights are likely to opeate extensively becuase of demand as a result of FDCO advice changing. Also might come that if you are double jabbed that amber advice doesnt apply to you either
What welsh government do have power over is health and so on your return they set the rules on quarantine and testing etc as these are health matters so colour light system only really applies to coming back
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Post by jbt95 on Jul 5, 2021 21:04:48 GMT
There's next to no chance of Wales fans being at this game, or the two in October. Let's just be honest. The FAW will not sell away tickets when the Welsh Government advice is not to travel abroad. That is unlikely to change at all this year. Let's hope we get some big stadia in the nations league next summer and everybody can go away after 2 and a half years without doing so. It looks like Czech Republic and Estonia are going to be green countries from 19th July. Welsh Government advice is not to travel abroad. Red, green, pink or brown countries. Until that changes, the FAW will not be selling tickets outside of Wales. |
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Post by adecolley on Jul 6, 2021 12:55:27 GMT
 Another reference: by.tribuna.com/tribuna/blogs/kontorapishet/2939759.html?fbclid=IwAR0XAicBagNWcdo0l6jDqcmhtxxDKIdlbHIEwGYzaZcvd-Hq2RO6vsL49xkThe famous Alex from Minsk provides a translation of Business Online article: Belarus FA intends to have home games of the Belarus national team in qualifying for the 2022 World Cup. The games against Wales and Belgium can happen in Kazan, Russia("BUSINESS Online") Games on September 5 and 9, respectively. “It is interesting for us to hold such status games at the Central Stadium. The national teams have not played here since 2013. Now we are analyzing everything that needs to be done on our part to obtain the necessary licenses from UEFA. We see that there are no unsolvable problems yet. We will try to host the national team of Belarus here in Kazan. This is an honor for us, "said Ilgiz Fakhriev, director of the Central Stadium in Kazan. Another article says Kazan 'may' rather than 'will' host the games. The central stadium is not even the one built for the World Cup in 2018. It's Rubin's old ground. Kazan's an interesting city - I visited during the World Cup. I can see both ourselves and Belgium strenuously objecting to this relocation. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 6, 2021 13:41:06 GMT
Surely they can’t move the game to a location that far away from the original ground. It should be moved closer to us not in the opposite direction.
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Post by Agent B on Jul 6, 2021 16:28:22 GMT
Why should it be moved closer to us?
Russia, being a close ally of Belarus, was always going to be a probable choice for the game and if you were in their position, you would want to gain as much advantage over both Belgium and ourselves, as possible.
It reminds me of a ECWC 2-leg tie, between Cardiff and Torpedo Moscow in 1968. Cardiff won the home leg, 1-0, the return was due to be played in Moscow, but due to the 'climate' in March, the Russians switched the match, 2k miles further east, in Tashkent.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 7, 2021 9:00:59 GMT
Has anyone got any advice on how to obtain a Russian Visa at the lowest possible cost? If it's moved to Kazan I would love to go, but fear I'll be priced out of it.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 7, 2021 10:28:39 GMT
Why should it be moved closer to us? Russia, being a close ally of Belarus, was always going to be a probable choice for the game and if you were in their position, you would want to gain as much advantage over both Belgium and ourselves, as possible. It reminds me of a ECWC 2-leg tie, between Cardiff and Torpedo Moscow in 1968. Cardiff won the home leg, 1-0, the return was due to be played in Moscow, but due to the 'climate' in March, the Russians switched the match, 2k miles further east, in Tashkent. Why should we be further disadvantaged because they cant host an international fixture on home soil? If it has to be Russia (why???) then Kaliningrad is the obvious location, at least it's geographically in Europe. |
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