Rubin Colwill

[GuntersLeftFoot]

Jan 19, 2023 13:05:16 GMT ybrawdhoudini said:

Got to admit, I am struggling to understand the hype around Colwill. Just doesn't look like a natural footballer to me, also very slow and seemingly unfit.

I know there's a lot of moaning about him not playing in his preferred position, but haven't Cardiff had 3 different managers who have barely started him and played him in different positions.

Maybe he just isn't that good?

If he is just misunderstood by all of the previous Cardiff managers, might be best for him to move on

Agree with this. Barely plays in one of the worst Cardiff sides in recent memory. I dont really know how he was getting squad call ups for Wales last year. Maybe somebody has put a 5er in Page's pocket.

[jackanapes]

I can’t believe people are doubting Colwill’s ability. He’s definitely got the ability but he needs to play regularly to progress. If he doesn’t start soon he will find his key development years have passed him by and he’ll be another player who wasted his potential. He’s been unlucky with the football philosophy of his managers at Cardiff - I think it’s clear that it’s the wrong club for him. He needs to move to a club that will appreciate his skill set, even if it means dropping down a division.

From the outside the system at Cardiff seems totally dysfunctional. The academy seems to produce young players who are technically good but they keep getting ignored by managers who are footballing dinosaurs.

[talyfan]

www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/cardiff-city-notes-shut-up-26161236

Explanation why Rubin was dropped last game.

Does seem to have an issue with fitness and general consistency. He has shown moments of brilliance but has not done it consistently. Whenever I've watched him he looks as though he's pulling a caravan! Looks very slow and not been able to get hold of the game.

He'll be 21 soon too. Still young but should be aiming to play regularly. Think needs to move away and start regularly. Don't know what level though.

[eppingblue1]

There's no doubt Rubin Colwell has the ability to be the next Peter Whittingham. Worryingly at the moment he's looking more like the next Darcy Blake. We don't know how he'll develop under our new manager and if its not positive between now and the end of the season he'll need to get away, whether Cardiff stay up or not. I've no doubt there's still a very good player in Rubin Colwell and he 's probably suited to team playing a different style, certainly different to the battle Cardiff will have in the next few months. Great technique, great footballing mind but there's no escaping the fact that the modern games needs energy all over the pitch. 

[gimli]

Don't know how anyone expects him to work himself into any type of form or consistency when all he's getting is the odd 15 mins off the bench. Much worse performing players than him are almost guaranteed a starting spot every week yet he only gets cameos here and there. What he needs is for the manager to actually have faith in him and give him a run of games. Davies as well. But alas, that's not how it works at Cardiff City, and we're stuck with yet another conservative dinosaur that won't give young players a chance.

[hooky]

I have zero expectations for him as he has hardly done anything. He also comes across as a bit lethargic and inconsistent.

I hope he proves many of us wrong. Many of us criticised a couple of selections for the world cup but perhaps his was the worst because the Welsh medical team and manager would have known the poor physical state he was in before they selected him. It was almost like a default - be loyal to anyone who has played for you over the past 12 months at the time. As discussed, I truly hope Page has learned his lessons.

Pick and try other players in the squad now unless he is showing some kind of form which justifies his selection

[evans1282]

With regard to Colwill I see where you're coming from,but before the World Cup,we went through this argument about pick form don't be so loyal, but over the last decade our success has been built on two solid pillars,one mega star,and the fact that we are consistent with selection ,not gi ING up on players and changing willy nilly because someone bagged a couple of goals in the weeks building up to a game.If you are not one of the giants of football,you cannot afford to do what you suggest.I watched this idea being used for decades and quite honestly it doesn't work.

[talyfan]

Same time we shouldn't just stick with players because they're promising. They need to prove and warrant inclusion if we've given them the initial opportunity and platform.

It goes both ways. The likes of Brennan, Neco and Ampadu have almost solidified themselves as mainstays within the squad as we exposed them to international football early in their careers and they are or have been playing regularly and showing promise. They've set the bar and it's down to lads coming through to surpass that.

Colwill on the other hand struggled with fitness and gaining opportunities domestically through a mixture of his own doing and external factors playing for Cardiff City.

There's plenty of young attacking talent we have available to us. We shouldn't blindly stick to players just because. A degree of competition, casting the net where appropriate and positive selection headaches would be healthy for our national team.

[evans1282]

Don't see them as mutually exclusive options, before the world cup the only realistic(imo)alternative was Ollie Cooper, an uncapped player who'd just broken into the Swansea team.

[rushy]

Is there some doubt about Colwill's attitude I don't know, but for a new manager to leave any player out of the squad means there is more to it than fitness issues, he offered very little against Luton which Lamouchi obviously did not like and as a consequence left him out completely in the next game.
Colwill is a promising player for sure but whatever the problem is with him, a manager needs total commitment from his players in the dire situation the club is in, as I say I don't know but moving to another club is not the easy answer, I hope he knuckles down and proves his potential.

[GuntersLeftFoot]

The manager saying that 3/4 players are ahead of him doesnt exactly spark excitement in his ability. Regardless of age, if you are half decent you'd be in that Cardiff team because right now it is dreadful and devoid of any sort of quality.

[jimexotic]

Time for Rubin to really get his career going now, his country needs him to turn into a decent player more than ever right now

[allezlesrouges]

Mar 12, 2023 17:28:05 GMT jimexotic said:

Time for Rubin to really get his career going now, his country needs him to turn into a decent player more than ever right now

Hope he turns into a deep lying playmaker. Think his physicality could really work in that position, and not sure he suits being a winger or even a no.10

[robin1864]

Club connection aside, I'd see him being in the mould of Ramsey.

He just needs games and consistency, and Cardiff hasn't been a club for nurturing young Welsh talent for some time.

[talyfan]

Focus needs to be breaking into the Cardiff side for me before getting a call up again.

Won't be playing these round of games anyway. He's had ample opportunities and exposed to experiences for some time. Good opportunity to give someone else whose playing regularly at the moment a chance to see what they are like in training and as I always say cast the net out.

[dai]

If he can't get into a very poor Cardiff side then he should not be playing international football, sadly. I get we have players who are bench warmers for clubs and that's not ideal either, however Colwill seems to have taken a major dip this season.

I reckon he will be called up regardless though.

[allezlesrouges]

Time with the u21s would be good for him imo

[talyfan]

I think at this stage he'll be called up regardless. Won't lose sleep over it but feel he's immune from getting dropped based off glimpses and potential he's got definitely a player Page thinks highly of.

[fiveattheback]

I don't think he should be involved at all for this break, u21s or seniors, - let him stay at Cardiff and get into the side

[marsvolta]

Mar 12, 2023 21:16:19 GMT dai said:

If he can't get into a very poor Cardiff side then he should not be playing international football, sadly. I get we have players who are bench warmers for clubs and that's not ideal either, however Colwill seems to have taken a major dip this season.

I reckon he will be called up regardless though.

I’m it sure that we’ve got that many alternatives in midfield at the mo.

[jimexotic]

Luke Harris and Ollie Cooper have jumped in ahead of him now, probably rightly so with how things are going at the minute. I haven't forgotten this though

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CXtrVu3mNI

[allezlesrouges]

Mar 14, 2023 18:41:13 GMT jimexotic said:

Luke Harris and Ollie Cooper have jumped in ahead of him now, probably rightly so with how things are going at the minute. I haven't forgotten this though

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CXtrVu3mNI

Got me longing for a friendly! Who'd have thought one day friendlies would be a welcome addition to the calendar. From this squad, if we had a friendly prior to Croatia I'd love to see us go for something like;

Ward
Cabango-Lockyer-Rodon
Sorba-JJ-Morrell-Neco
Cooper-Broadhead
Bradshaw

[smudger1]

Some fans on here really don't understand how poor Colwill is. As a City season ticket holder this lad isn't good enough. He's a big lump with excellent skills but most importantly he runs like he's in treacle and lacks desire. For a lad with his frame he also is useless in the air and definitely needs to go on loan to a L1 club and knuckle down. I. Davies has also gone backwards since his head turned after Burnley offered £1.5m for him a few months ago. But the big difference with Davies is he has desire and high energy and I'd bet that Davies has more chance of succeeding than Colwill does.

[gimli]

Strongly disagree with that opinion about Colwill. He's barely played this season due to a mix of injury and being ignored by the manager, and the few chances he's had - 5-10 min cameos at the end of games for the most part - he's inexplicably been played as a winger which doesn't suit him at all. It's no wonder he hasn't played well under those circumstances.

He's far from the finished article, but he's got all the physical attributes to be a good midfielder with some good coaching. The issue is Cardiff's coaching has been absolutely shite, and that's why he and Davies appear to have regressed. (The comment about Isaak Davies going backwards since having his head turned by Burnely is ridiculous, he's been injured for half the season, and again has barely been given a chance since getting fit. Nothing to do with the Burnley bid.)

[iot]

Mar 15, 2023 8:54:25 GMT smudger1 said:

Some fans on here really don't understand how poor Colwill is. As a City season ticket holder this lad isn't good enough. He's a big lump with excellent skills but most importantly he runs like he's in treacle and lacks desire. For a lad with his frame he also is useless in the air and definitely needs to go on loan to a L1 club and knuckle down. I. Davies has also gone backwards since his head turned after Burnley offered £1.5m for him a few months ago. But the big difference with Davies is he has desire and high energy and I'd bet that Davies has more chance of succeeding than Colwill does.

I think this is way too harsh. There's an element of truth in your main criticism, the way he runs and inability to cover ground quickly, but we don't know how much of that is down to issues with the fact he's still growing. For me, he has the highest potential from anyone in the Cardiff squad - including Isaak Davies - but it's nothing more than that at this point, just potential. He needs to get over those physical issue and build up some momentum. If he can do that, I think he can progress really quickly and could play at a much higher level

[quetzal]

Got to be in next squad. Got to be….

[rushy]

Colwill is potential, he has struggled this season with his own physical condition and maybe his attitude has not been right due to that.
However there is a player in there and he has to be coached in a way that brings him forward, and a lot of that is down to him and his character in wanting to improve his overall fitness and ability.
Davies also hasn't had a great season but he can only get better with time and will have to knuckle down to move his career forward.
I'm hoping they both get back on track for next season and beyond to give their club and us a boost.

[surge]

In the Bale documentary last Friday they spoke about how close Bale was to being released by Southampton at youth level, how difficult he found it while still growing and ultimately how Harry Redknapp decided to call off the physios to allow Bale to learn to pick up small kicks and keep going.

No one is saying Colwill has as much potential, but everyone at Cardiff has been saying he's finding it more difficult due to still growing.

Players develop at different speeds. Colwill has a lot to work on - he's a Championship player for a reason - but there does seem to be potential there.

[dai]

I watched the first 30 mins of the U21 Scotland game, can't say Colwill stood out until that point like some have mentioned? Does he improve after the 30 or in the second half?

[evans1282]

Mar 27, 2023 19:13:41 GMT dai said:

I watched the first 30 mins of the U21 Scotland game, can't say Colwill stood out until that point like some have mentioned? Does he improve after the 30 or in the second half?

I thought he grew into the game from about when he played a beautifully for the first goal,sometimes maybe you need to be looking from outside ,the Scottish commentary team were always commenting on how composed he looked.