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Post by mrpicton79 on Mar 31, 2022 1:39:50 GMT
Come on we want to play the Scots here. Will we even be able to celebrate if we score against Ukraine? Let alone qualify at their expense. Muted celebrations at best for potentially one of the greatest nights in Welsh football history.
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Post by quetzal on Mar 31, 2022 2:01:10 GMT
Come on we want to play Scots in this. Will we even be able to celebrate if we score against Ukraine? Let alone qualify at their expense. Muted celebrations at best for potentially one of the greatest nights in Welsh football history. It’s all self inflicted mind games by older fans. If we play Ukraine I can see them beating us. Men possessed. Scotland is our best chance. |
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Post by underwood on Mar 31, 2022 9:40:27 GMT
Come on we want to play Scots in this. Will we even be able to celebrate if we score against Ukraine? Let alone qualify at their expense. Muted celebrations at best for potentially one of the greatest nights in Welsh football history. It’s all self inflicted mind games by older fans. If we play Ukraine I can see them beating us. Men possessed. Scotland is our best chance. I tend to think that if Ukraine get past Scotland they might be emotionally spent. Wishful thinking on my part maybe, but the mental strain of peaking twice in a few days would be enormous for them. |
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Post by iot on Mar 31, 2022 9:46:56 GMT
It’s all self inflicted mind games by older fans. If we play Ukraine I can see them beating us. Men possessed. Scotland is our best chance. I tend to think that if Ukraine get past Scotland they might be emotionally spent. Wishful thinking on my part maybe, but the mental strain of peaking twice in a few days would be enormous for them. I had that thought before the Denmark game too... |
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Post by cymro on Mar 31, 2022 10:00:35 GMT
I've already got my tickets £250 for 3 games and 1st round. ill prob only be going to 1 game and return the rest. I really cant see any accommodation anywhere. it all opened up on 21st march where 90% had already qualified. There is nothing available cant seem to book anything outside of FIFA accommodation agency. they are quoting 3K for 4 nights on a cruise ship and that's it. no village - no hotels (which were extortionate) FIFA don't want ordinary fans and nor do Qatar just the rich ones. it cant accommodate the masses just the selective few. you can rent a villa at 350 per night about 1hrs drive. friends have booked accomodation in Bahrian and hired a camper van. 5hr drive. (iassume they will park up and sleep in it) I'm up for going if we get there but if it gets physically impossible to stay anywhere, or it's ridiculously expensive to the point where no average person would feasibly want to spend that amount of money, then the choice will be taken out of my hands. I do wonder if more availability will become available the closer we get to it. I seriously question how many travelling fans from anywhere will be going. Fans of teams who qualify regularly will most likely give this one a miss as it's unjustifiable just before Christmas, along with the human rights issues, etc... |
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Post by cymro on Mar 31, 2022 10:03:17 GMT
It would be fitting to get Scotland and put past demons to bed. As mentioned, only older fans get terrified at the thought of Scotland. The Scots still love bringing it up though 40 odd years later, they think it's a psychological advantage. Not sure it even enters the minds of current players and majority of fans.
As for the draw... I'd enjoy Argentina, Japan and USA. For no real reason other than it's a varied combo of teams we never play and you can't get a much better feeling of being at a world cup than playing 3 teams like that. Swap one of them for an African nation and that would also be great.
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Post by pclaude on Mar 31, 2022 10:51:52 GMT
It makes the most sense in terms of limiting disruption to the NL. The Netherlands game could then be squeezed into the September window. Looks like the 4th now, causing even less disruption. Only 2 NL games in our group would move. No, not the 4th please! I would likely be getting divorced if it is. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Mar 31, 2022 10:54:32 GMT
No one knows anything at the moment, its all rumours and hearsay so don't hire any lawyers yet
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 31, 2022 12:19:58 GMT
I never had the trauma of the games against the Scots. What I'd be keen to avoid is any home nations derby, as they are often edgy, nervous, tight and stressful with big build ups
Ireland, Scotland, England would be keen to avoid all of them in high pressure games. N.I I'd settle for as they have the least quality out of the home nations, and I'd back our quality to tell against them...but when we played them at the Euros even that was a tight and nervy game
Despite Ukraine being well up for it, and being the media darlings if they play us, I'd rather than in a lot of ways to Scotland
Here's hoping Ukraine win in extra time, and struggle to keep the energy up against us
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Mar 31, 2022 12:32:38 GMT
Quick questions:
Is it possible, given the likely high tensions in Scotland-v-Ukraine SF that there may be a plethora of yellow cards (even a red, maybe)?
If so, and with possible injuries being picked up, could potentially key Sc/Uk players miss out when facing us?
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Post by dai on Mar 31, 2022 12:46:34 GMT
Quick questions: Is it possible, given the likely high tensions in Scotland-v-Ukraine SF that there may be a plethora of yellow cards (even a red, maybe)? If so, and with possible injuries being picked up, could potentially key Sc/Uk players miss out when facing us? Suspensions via yellow cards, no, because they've been scrapped for the playoffs. Why would the match be played with high tension? I'd probably say it would be less tense given the respect Scotland will have for Ukraine after what they've been through. |
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Post by insertname on Mar 31, 2022 13:48:35 GMT
Come on we want to play the Scots here. Will we even be able to celebrate if we score against Ukraine? Let alone qualify at their expense. Muted celebrations at best for potentially one of the greatest nights in Welsh football history. You could say that about every day life- are all our problems now insignificant because some people are suffering? There were kids starving in Yemen before the first shot was fired in Ukraine, yet we never stopped celebrating drawing with Belgium to consider them. Life goes on. If we have to beat Ukraine to qualify then it won’t be ideal, but that shouldn’t stop us from celebrating it fully. There will always be conflict and brutal injustice in the world, the biggest tragedy is that most of it won’t even make it on to our TV screens because the territories it takes place in isn’t even considered important enough to be newsworthy |
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Post by cynonvalley on Mar 31, 2022 14:57:43 GMT
Ranked 18th in the world after this
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Post by conwy10 on Mar 31, 2022 15:04:35 GMT
Come on we want to play Scots in this. Will we even be able to celebrate if we score against Ukraine? Let alone qualify at their expense. Muted celebrations at best for potentially one of the greatest nights in Welsh football history. It’s all self inflicted mind games by older fans. If we play Ukraine I can see them beating us. Men possessed. Scotland is our best chance. I don't know on the men possessed thing. We will be cheering their anthem, sending them messages of support, holding up their flag. Can you really get a fire burning in you to defeat us? Wanting to win is a given but be prepared to take everything to the absolute line with tackles, play acting, physicality. Not being funny but Ukraine will be everywhere emotionally that match and our lads are playing for their first World Cup. Our focus will be 100%, just a question of if they're better than us. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 31, 2022 15:20:42 GMT
Once the first ball is kicked it will be like any other game for me
If Ukraine beat us fair and square I will clap them off the pitch, and before the game they will get our support I'm sure. But once the pleasantries are exchanged focus will be on the match as it would any other game
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Post by quetzal on Mar 31, 2022 15:26:19 GMT
It would be fitting to get Scotland and put past demons to bed. As mentioned, only older fans get terrified at the thought of Scotland. The Scots still love bringing it up though 40 odd years later, they think it's a psychological advantage. Not sure it even enters the minds of current players and majority of fans. As for the draw... I'd enjoy Argentina, Japan and USA. For no real reason other than it's a varied combo of teams we never play and you can't get a much better feeling of being at a world cup than playing 3 teams like that. Swap one of them for an African nation and that would also be great. I present a pub quiz every Thursday over here in Guatemala. I asked the question. ‘Who killed John Lennon?’ Group of young English backpackers. ‘Who’s John Lennon?’. It’s unfortunate us older fans have to suffer this Scotland thing because the reality is we’ve given them a good going over in the last 20 years. Also in 85 and I was there, a 9 year old at Ninian with my dad. Wales needed a win and Scots only a draw. 77/78 Anfield was mobbed by Scots and Scotland had one hell of a team. We’ll see. I’d prefer to play the Scots. |
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Post by cymro on Mar 31, 2022 16:47:30 GMT
Thanks 🙏 for this. Watched it again. 2-1 flattered Austria. Seriously. We slaughtered them. I know Iwan Roberts on EJFOF said he’d go with same team again. I’d be tempted to throw Kieffer Moore into the mix. The great thing about Bale stealing the show on Thursday is that it's put the focus back on him for the final, ignoring our other threats around the pitch. Teams will be back to the "stop Bale, you stop Wales" attitude. I think we've kicked on a lot over the last 4 years in this respect. Kieffer might be a good shout as whoever we play will try and drag us into a dog fight. At least we have an outlet with Kieffer on the field if that happens. |
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Post by insertname on Mar 31, 2022 16:51:30 GMT
Thanks 🙏 for this. Watched it again. 2-1 flattered Austria. Seriously. We slaughtered them. I know Iwan Roberts on EJFOF said he’d go with same team again. I’d be tempted to throw Kieffer Moore into the mix. The great thing about Bale stealing the show on Thursday is that it's put the focus back on him for the final, ignoring our other threats around the pitch. Teams will be back to the "stop Bale, you stop Wales" attitude. I think we've kicked on a lot over the last 4 years in this respect. Kieffer might be a good shout as whoever we play will try and drag us into a dog fight. At least we have an outlet with Kieffer on the field if that happens. I can see the logic for not starting him, but I’d be wondering if Page had lost the plot if things are going badly and he doesn’t bring Kieffer on very early in the second half. That’s my worry with Page, he does seem reluctant to make changes in adversity. |
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Post by marsvolta on Mar 31, 2022 18:04:34 GMT
Thanks 🙏 for this. Watched it again. 2-1 flattered Austria. Seriously. We slaughtered them. I know Iwan Roberts on EJFOF said he’d go with same team again. I’d be tempted to throw Kieffer Moore into the mix. The great thing about Bale stealing the show on Thursday is that it's put the focus back on him for the final, ignoring our other threats around the pitch. Teams will be back to the "stop Bale, you stop Wales" attitude. I think we've kicked on a lot over the last 4 years in this respect. Kieffer might be a good shout as whoever we play will try and drag us into a dog fight. At least we have an outlet with Kieffer on the field if that happens. Yeah, we met some Scotland fans on Tuesday who were in Cardiff because gambled by booking flights and hotels in the hope that Scotland got to the final. The general feeling with them was that Bale was the only difference between us and they were very confident of beating us. |
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Post by robwrecsam on Mar 31, 2022 18:25:25 GMT
The great thing about Bale stealing the show on Thursday is that it's put the focus back on him for the final, ignoring our other threats around the pitch. Teams will be back to the "stop Bale, you stop Wales" attitude. I think we've kicked on a lot over the last 4 years in this respect. Kieffer might be a good shout as whoever we play will try and drag us into a dog fight. At least we have an outlet with Kieffer on the field if that happens. Yeah, we met some Scotland fans on Tuesday who were in Cardiff because gambled by booking flights and hotels in the hope that Scotland got to the final. The general feeling with them was that Bale was the only difference between us and they were very confident of beating us. I don’t get it, their fans and pundits were all confident in the euros and ended up with a single point with poor performances. They were as bad as the English. |
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Post by morg on Mar 31, 2022 19:11:27 GMT
Ranked 18th in the world after this So we're a pot 2 standard team going into pot 4 tomorrow! |
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Post by underwood on Mar 31, 2022 19:12:54 GMT
The great thing about Bale stealing the show on Thursday is that it's put the focus back on him for the final, ignoring our other threats around the pitch. Teams will be back to the "stop Bale, you stop Wales" attitude. I think we've kicked on a lot over the last 4 years in this respect. Kieffer might be a good shout as whoever we play will try and drag us into a dog fight. At least we have an outlet with Kieffer on the field if that happens. Yeah, we met some Scotland fans on Tuesday who were in Cardiff because gambled by booking flights and hotels in the hope that Scotland got to the final. The general feeling with them was that Bale was the only difference between us and they were very confident of beating us. They can think what they want. Last summer they were put to the sword by the Czechs & Croatia. Despite having home advantage they were completely snuffed out. Ukraine lie somewhere in the middle of those two teams, although that is under normal circumstances of course. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 31, 2022 19:32:35 GMT
The great thing about Bale stealing the show on Thursday is that it's put the focus back on him for the final, ignoring our other threats around the pitch. Teams will be back to the "stop Bale, you stop Wales" attitude. I think we've kicked on a lot over the last 4 years in this respect. Kieffer might be a good shout as whoever we play will try and drag us into a dog fight. At least we have an outlet with Kieffer on the field if that happens. Yeah, we met some Scotland fans on Tuesday who were in Cardiff because gambled by booking flights and hotels in the hope that Scotland got to the final. The general feeling with them was that Bale was the only difference between us and they were very confident of beating us. Dining off their 0-0 win against England |
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Post by insertname on Mar 31, 2022 19:34:21 GMT
Yeah, we met some Scotland fans on Tuesday who were in Cardiff because gambled by booking flights and hotels in the hope that Scotland got to the final. The general feeling with them was that Bale was the only difference between us and they were very confident of beating us. They can think what they want. Last summer they were put to the sword by the Czechs & Croatia. Despite having home advantage they were completely snuffed out. Ukraine lie somewhere in the middle of those two teams, although that is under normal circumstances of course. Quite apart from Bale a few seem to be really concerned about our pace on the counter attack- those people seem to think we’ll batter them on that basis. Of course they have to beat Ukraine first. Whoever we play it’s good to rest in the knowledge that we are one game away rather than two |
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Post by maelor on Mar 31, 2022 19:57:50 GMT
Ranked 18th in the world after this So we're a pot 2 standard team going into pot 4 tomorrow! Yes and, while I know it can't be helped, it's really rankling me. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 31, 2022 20:16:31 GMT
Ranked 18th in the world after this So we're a pot 2 standard team going into pot 4 tomorrow! I imagine that, if we do make it, whoever draws the team ranked 18th in the world as their 4th seed are going to be mightily pissed off! |
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Post by sleepy on Apr 1, 2022 6:16:39 GMT
Ranked 18th in the world after this So we're a pot 2 standard team going into pot 4 tomorrow! We would have been the top ranked team in pot 3 if we had qualified, not pot 2. |
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Post by morg on Apr 1, 2022 7:08:22 GMT
Correct. Was forgetting about Qatar  |
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Post by cynonvalley on Apr 1, 2022 13:37:25 GMT
I really thought they'd give us a date before the draw.
Smh.
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Post by insertname on Apr 1, 2022 14:00:14 GMT
I really thought they'd give us a date before the draw. Smh. We should just circumvent all of this nonsense by changing our official name to “European Play off Winner”, then we’ll finally be in the draw on our own merits |
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