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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 24, 2024 16:36:44 GMT
James starting ahead of Brooks for me. Against Finland I think we expected them to sit back more, so the quality & guile of Brooks was needed. But for this one I think we can expect Poland to control the game more, so tactically James suits the game more imo
7 goals and 9 assists now across his 50 caps
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 24, 2024 16:56:46 GMT
James starting ahead of Brooks for me. Against Finland I think we expected them to sit back more, so the quality & guile of Brooks was needed. But for this one I think we can expect Poland to control the game more, so tactically James suits the game more imo 7 goals and 9 assists now across his 50 caps I still like the idea of James coming on, fresh, with 30 minutes left and becoming the oppositions worst nightmare. |
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Post by morg on Mar 24, 2024 17:07:48 GMT
James starting ahead of Brooks for me. Against Finland I think we expected them to sit back more, so the quality & guile of Brooks was needed. But for this one I think we can expect Poland to control the game more, so tactically James suits the game more imo 7 goals and 9 assists now across his 50 caps I still like the idea of James coming on, fresh, with 30 minutes left and becoming the oppositions worst nightmare. Yep, it'll be same starting XI I reckon. Interestingly our last 2 games against them have been pretty even possession wise. I wouldn't be surprised if they start pretty conservatively. Guile rather than raw pace might be the order of the day in the first half. |
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Post by welshrover on Mar 24, 2024 19:19:40 GMT
I still like the idea of James coming on, fresh, with 30 minutes left and becoming the oppositions worst nightmare. Yep, it'll be same starting XI I reckon. Interestingly our last 2 games against them have been pretty even possession wise. I wouldn't be surprised if they start pretty conservatively. Guile rather than raw pace might be the order of the day in the first half. When we played them the last times didn't we put out weakened teams as we had the play offs against Austria and Ukraine? Or am I missing remembering that? |
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Post by morg on Mar 24, 2024 19:44:00 GMT
Yep, it'll be same starting XI I reckon. Interestingly our last 2 games against them have been pretty even possession wise. I wouldn't be surprised if they start pretty conservatively. Guile rather than raw pace might be the order of the day in the first half. When we played them the last times didn't we put out weakened teams as we had the play offs against Austria and Ukraine? Or am I missing remembering that? When we lost 0-1 in Cardiff it was Hennessey Roberts Cabango Rodon RND N.Williams Morell Levitt James Bale Johnson And we had 13 shots to their 6 |
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Post by fiveattheback on Mar 24, 2024 19:44:11 GMT
Yep, it'll be same starting XI I reckon. Interestingly our last 2 games against them have been pretty even possession wise. I wouldn't be surprised if they start pretty conservatively. Guile rather than raw pace might be the order of the day in the first half. When we played them the last times didn't we put out weakened teams as we had the play offs against Austria and Ukraine? Or am I missing remembering that? We put out a weakened eleven in Poland as we had the Ukraine game 4 days later - that was a proper C team, I think Matt Smith was at wing back Can't remember the reasoning for a weakened team in the home game. I think there were a lot of injuries & suspensions and that saw Ramsey, Allen, Davies, Ampadu, Mepham and Wilson out |
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Post by saturn9 on Mar 24, 2024 20:26:30 GMT
It's going to be torture watching it on the box isn't it😬
To close to call for me.
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Post by pclaude on Mar 24, 2024 20:51:45 GMT
We love global football on twitter a bit inexplicably, have us at 67% to progress to Euro 24.
Bookies have us as slight favourites too.
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Post by welshowl on Mar 24, 2024 22:43:52 GMT
When we played them the last times didn't we put out weakened teams as we had the play offs against Austria and Ukraine? Or am I missing remembering that? When we lost 0-1 in Cardiff it was Hennessey Roberts Cabango Rodon RND N.Williams Morell Levitt James Bale Johnson And we had 13 shots to their 6 Two things I remember most about being there for that game. Saying thanks to Bale in his last game in the Uk (with him going close with a header late on), and the outrageous amount of falling over by the Poles.
It's going to be very tense on Tuesday night, but we can do this.
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Post by manulike on Mar 24, 2024 22:52:28 GMT
Had a quick look at the referees we had against them The 2-1 in Wroclaw it was the Slovenian Rade Obrenovič. The 0-1 in Cardiff was the Latvian Andris Treimanis. Would like to think that we can get a German / Scandinavian ref this time - PLEASE ;-)
dragonsoccer stating that the ref for Tuesday is: Daniele Orsato (Italy). Seems to be quite heavy in dishing out yellow cards, but otherswise I'm happy with an Italian! PS - looks like Luka Modrić was not all that impressed with him at the WC semi v Argentina, in Qatar ;-)
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Post by manulike on Mar 24, 2024 22:54:51 GMT
We love global football on twitter a bit inexplicably, have us at 67% to progress to Euro 24. Bookies have us as slight favourites too. Thanks for sharing! Made my day ;-))
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Post by hooky on Mar 24, 2024 22:55:50 GMT
When we lost 0-1 in Cardiff it was Hennessey Ward - a downgrade perhaps Roberts Roberts (same)Cabango Davies (big upgrade) Rodon Rodon (better player with far more confidence thanks to more regular game time)RND Mepham (a better central defender) N.Williams Neco (a much better defender now) Morell JJ (A far better and more physical player)Levitt Ampadu (no comment needed!)James In better form now but may not make the teamBale Wilson - contributes more overall but no one has Bale's golden touchJohnson You would assume he is a better player nowAnd we had 13 shots to their 6 I assume we have better bench options now in Dasilva, Brooks or James, Moore, Broadhead, Matondo. To think Lawrence and Thomas are not even in the squad as well. Two things I remember most about being there for that game. Saying thanks to Bale in his last game in the Uk (with him going close with a header late on), and the outrageous amount of falling over by the Poles.
It's going to be very tense on Tuesday night, but we can do this.
Yes comparing the teams as above - I can see where you are coming from! |
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Post by saturn9 on Mar 24, 2024 23:21:33 GMT
We love global football on twitter a bit inexplicably, have us at 67% to progress to Euro 24. Bookies have us as slight favourites too. Thanks for sharing! Made my day ;-))
How often do wlgf get it right😬😬 |
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Post by iot on Mar 24, 2024 23:28:41 GMT
I've changed my mind so many times over the last couple of days re who I'd pick as the front three because DJ really deserves it, but I think I would start Brooks and Wilson again (potentially with Moore in front of them). The rationale being, not so much how well each player is performing, but what type of player we need to start this one. Brooks and James obviously have very different qualities, so I just think we want two no. 10s to start the game to help us get some control, and for James then to come on against tired legs. Brooks will need to step up though and perhaps take slightly fewer risks - he doesn't need to take his man on or play a killer through ball every time he gets the ball
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Post by rangers15 on Mar 25, 2024 9:14:10 GMT
same here... I've juggled the starting front 3 around in my head several times since Thursday.
I'm thinking of Moore for Johnson is my only change. Just feel this game we might need the big target to get us a foothold in the final third.
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Post by pclaude on Mar 25, 2024 10:45:44 GMT
same here... I've juggled the starting front 3 around in my head several times since Thursday. I'm thinking of Moore for Johnson is my only change. Just feel this game we might need the big target to get us a foothold in the final third. Moore for Brooks for me. Though starting our two best 9's is a risk. Moore definitely starts- in part as I dont want him being on the pitch at penalty time. |
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Post by iot on Mar 25, 2024 10:48:37 GMT
same here... I've juggled the starting front 3 around in my head several times since Thursday. I'm thinking of Moore for Johnson is my only change. Just feel this game we might need the big target to get us a foothold in the final third. Moore for Brooks for me. Though starting our two best 9's is a risk. Moore definitely starts- in part as I dont want him being on the pitch at penalty time. Why? He’s one of our best penalty takers |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 25, 2024 11:28:52 GMT
When we played them the last times didn't we put out weakened teams as we had the play offs against Austria and Ukraine? Or am I missing remembering that? We put out a weakened eleven in Poland as we had the Ukraine game 4 days later - that was a proper C team, I think Matt Smith was at wing back Can't remember the reasoning for a weakened team in the home game. I think there were a lot of injuries & suspensions and that saw Ramsey, Allen, Davies, Ampadu, Mepham and Wilson out Away in Poland we started with; Ward Gunter-Mepham-RND Smith-Levitt-Morrell-Burns Joniesta Moore-DJ Amazing that we were unlucky to lose that one given the lineup |
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Post by dcwales on Mar 25, 2024 12:05:02 GMT
same here... I've juggled the starting front 3 around in my head several times since Thursday. I'm thinking of Moore for Johnson is my only change. Just feel this game we might need the big target to get us a foothold in the final third. Moore for Brooks for me. Though starting our two best 9's is a risk. Moore definitely starts- in part as I dont want him being on the pitch at penalty time. Been the best penalty taker I've seen for a while at Cardiff. |
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Post by pclaude on Mar 25, 2024 12:32:16 GMT
Moore for Brooks for me. Though starting our two best 9's is a risk. Moore definitely starts- in part as I dont want him being on the pitch at penalty time. Why? He’s one of our best penalty takers Fair enough- I assumed he'd be the weakest of the 6 players we feasibly could play in the front 3. |
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Post by manulike on Mar 25, 2024 12:35:16 GMT
We put out a weakened eleven in Poland as we had the Ukraine game 4 days later - that was a proper C team, I think Matt Smith was at wing back Can't remember the reasoning for a weakened team in the home game. I think there were a lot of injuries & suspensions and that saw Ramsey, Allen, Davies, Ampadu, Mepham and Wilson out Away in Poland we started with; Ward Gunter-Mepham-RND Smith-Levitt-Morrell-Burns Joniesta Moore-DJ Amazing that we were unlucky to lose that one given the lineup I remember that game very vividly. The boys did really well and were frustrated by a really poor referee that gave them everything ;-( |
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Post by ontheroadagain2 on Mar 25, 2024 12:35:27 GMT
Why? He’s one of our best penalty takers Fair enough- I assumed he'd be the weakest of the 6 players we feasibly could play in the front 3. The drawback with Moore starting is the potential of 2 yellow cards or a red with continental referees. |
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Post by manulike on Mar 25, 2024 12:38:08 GMT
Fair enough- I assumed he'd be the weakest of the 6 players we feasibly could play in the front 3. The drawback with Moore starting is the potential of 2 yellow cards or a red with continental referees. It does appear that this Italian fella we got tommorrow is very trigger happy with his cards - about 6 per game. That said, he is one of the top refs out there - so hopefully he won't buy into the Polish nonsense
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Post by barryscorcher on Mar 25, 2024 12:58:17 GMT
If I was Page I’d be laying it on thick in the presser about the Polish antics from last time we played them. The level of play acting with the fake head injuries was an absolute embarrassment and totally took advantage of rules that are there to protect players. There needs to be a different approach from the ref this time around in a game of such magnitude, iirc it took 85 minutes for the ref to go near his cards even though they’d been time wasting since kick off
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Post by athenempadu on Mar 25, 2024 13:27:08 GMT
same here... I've juggled the starting front 3 around in my head several times since Thursday. I'm thinking of Moore for Johnson is my only change. Just feel this game we might need the big target to get us a foothold in the final third. Moore for Brooks for me. Though starting our two best 9's is a risk. Moore definitely starts- in part as I dont want him being on the pitch at penalty time. Why change it? The movement up front against Finland was fantastic, and it's the best I've seen us play for some while. Besides that, Moore is a card magnet for such an important game, so I feel it's better to introduce him later if we want to change our style of play. |
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Post by pclaude on Mar 25, 2024 13:33:47 GMT
Moore for Brooks for me. Though starting our two best 9's is a risk. Moore definitely starts- in part as I dont want him being on the pitch at penalty time. Why change it? The movement up front against Finland was fantastic, and it's the best I've seen us play for some while. Besides that, Moore is a card magnet for such an important game, so I feel it's better to introduce him later if we want to change our style of play. In addition to the reasons given, it puts Johnson in his preferred position of wide right, and Brooks goal aside, wasnt that great I didnt think- gave the ball away a lot with Hollywood passes. Now that might have been a deliberate ploy, and there is an argument that a high risk/reward pass that leads to a chance, is better than a sideways pass. Im pretty agnostic about who from the top 5 upfront starts, as long as one of them is Wilson. |
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Post by athenempadu on Mar 25, 2024 13:46:55 GMT
Why change it? The movement up front against Finland was fantastic, and it's the best I've seen us play for some while. Besides that, Moore is a card magnet for such an important game, so I feel it's better to introduce him later if we want to change our style of play. In addition to the reasons given, it puts Johnson in his preferred position of wide right, and Brooks goal aside, wasnt that great I didnt think- gave the ball away a lot with Hollywood passes. Now that might have been a deliberate ploy, and there is an argument that a high risk/reward pass that leads to a chance, is better than a sideways pass. Im pretty agnostic about who from the top 5 upfront starts, as long as one of them is Wilson. I get that, but we play an entirely different game when Moore is in the team. |
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Post by gimli on Mar 25, 2024 14:16:41 GMT
I think I'd start the same line up as last week. There's a decent chance the game will go to extra time, and I think it'd be much better to have a fresh Kieffer and DJ against a tired Polish defence towards the end than in the early, cagey stages of the match. It's a risk obviously since the game could be over by the time we bring them on, but I think the pros outweigh the cons - especially, as mentioned by others, if you consider the proclivity of continental refs for dishing out cards to Kieffer for merely existing and being tall.
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Post by quetzal on Mar 25, 2024 14:23:01 GMT
We always wanted these games in Welsh football. Will be a sleepless night for me. Younger fans will be a lot more comfortable.
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Post by iot on Mar 25, 2024 14:23:23 GMT
Why? He’s one of our best penalty takers Fair enough- I assumed he'd be the weakest of the 6 players we feasibly could play in the front 3. Yeah, you wouldn't have thought it would be his thing, but he has a really good record at club level. Counterintuitively, I think I've watched Wilson take 3 or 4 penalties in cup knockout matches for Liverpool and he took one in a friendly against Finland, and I think he's missed all but one (including the one in Finland) with some terribly tame takes. I guess it shows it requires mental attributes much more than technical ones. |
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