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Post by bale-droed on Jun 6, 2024 22:06:56 GMT
The FAW got to be really careful now. Cymru football team don’t have a massive hardcore following. We’re not like the Rep Of Ireland where 40’000 people will watch dross for years. Cymru crowds will be at 4000 soon. We’re a fickle bunch. Page will get the boot. Agree with this. Wales is unfortunately the biggest nation of glory hunters in any sport. How can we justify this? The squad we had out on paper should've easily won. |
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Post by underwood on Jun 6, 2024 22:27:58 GMT
Ryan Giggs please.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 6, 2024 23:01:37 GMT
Page makes some valid points to contextualise the result against Gibraltar but it would make a refreshing change if he wasn't so defensive in his responses. He really doesn't seem to realise it's not a good look. Far better to analyse and take responsibility for the shortcomings. Humility can buy some respect, defensiveness just invites hostility. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c9881wjypy3o |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 6, 2024 23:02:50 GMT
By the way, will the draw have a detrimental effect on our ranking?
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 6, 2024 23:06:46 GMT
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 7, 2024 4:58:51 GMT
The FAW got to be really careful now. Cymru football team don’t have a massive hardcore following. We’re not like the Rep Of Ireland where 40’000 people will watch dross for years. Cymru crowds will be at 4000 soon. We’re a fickle bunch. Page will get the boot. Agree with this. Wales is unfortunately the biggest nation of glory hunters in any sport. How can we justify this? The squad we had out on paper should've easily won. Great point. The next campaign is probably one of the most important in recent times. As much for the FAW and their coffers as it is for qualification. Another poor campaign and our crowds will most definitely drop off. Are the FAW rearranging the deckchairs on the titanic as it heads for the iceberg |
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 7, 2024 5:05:29 GMT
Page makes some valid points to contextualise the result against Gibraltar but it would make a refreshing change if he wasn't so defensive in his responses. He really doesn't seem to realise it's not a good look. Far better to analyse and take responsibility for the shortcomings. Humility can buy some respect, defensiveness just invites hostility. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c9881wjypy3oReminds me of another yes man Gareth Southgate. Constant sound bites and rarely strays from text book replies. Surely even the men in grey suits will be questioning his position after that embarrassment. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 7, 2024 6:33:53 GMT
The FAW got to be really careful now. Cymru football team don’t have a massive hardcore following. We’re not like the Rep Of Ireland where 40’000 people will watch dross for years. Cymru crowds will be at 4000 soon. We’re a fickle bunch. Page will get the boot. Agree with this. Wales is unfortunately the biggest nation of glory hunters in any sport. How can we justify this? The squad we had out on paper should've easily won. Part of it is the difficulty to get to and from Cardiff for these games from the North. I can see very few from up here bothering for home games in the nations league, I know I'm not. The FAW have made zero attempt to make it easier for us to get there (no buses), so sod them. |
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Post by kracken88 on Jun 7, 2024 6:46:50 GMT
Page knows he has basically found the golden ticket with this job, surely he is intelligent to know he is average at best so he has to fill his boots with this job and the one he will get in club management until that club realises he's not really got a tactical football brain and the up and at em boys crap doesn't work he hopes he will have a nice bank balance to retire on
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Post by iot on Jun 7, 2024 7:36:08 GMT
Page makes some valid points to contextualise the result against Gibraltar but it would make a refreshing change if he wasn't so defensive in his responses. He really doesn't seem to realise it's not a good look. Far better to analyse and take responsibility for the shortcomings. Humility can buy some respect, defensiveness just invites hostility. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c9881wjypy3oReminds me of another yes man Gareth Southgate. Constant sound bites and rarely strays from text book replies. Surely even the men in grey suits will be questioning his position after that embarrassment. If you cut through the nonsense spouted by fans who know very little, Southgate unfortunately is doing a very good job for England imo. It's funny how people have been criticising him for years for being too faithful, for not selecting in-form players and the constant chopping and changing of the squad that would be required, but now that he's gone down a slightly different path with his squad selection (dropping Maguire and Grealish) he gets lambasted for that. He also gets massive criticism for being too cautious, playing with two holding midfielders rather than cramming in another attacking midfielder, despite history showing us that Southgate's more pragmatic and balanced approach is entirely the right one, but 90% of Fifa / Football Manager fans will mock him for it. I think you're right to say that there are quite a few parallels with Page, just not for the reasons you imply. |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Jun 7, 2024 7:42:28 GMT
Osian We have budget limits and he may fail but he will not be as clueless as Page Apparently he's on 1 million a year. Yes, read it again, 1 MILLION. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 7, 2024 7:43:42 GMT
What’s your source for that figure? I’ve not heard that before
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Post by fireboy0610 on Jun 7, 2024 7:48:19 GMT
What’s your source for that figure? I’ve not heard that before I was as shocked as you but its the usual 'got a mate in the know' But honestly this mate does know people in the know. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 7, 2024 7:54:23 GMT
I’m not shocked I don’t believe it, sounds like the sort of thing people make up when they’re pissed off with the manager
I really don’t think the FAW can afford to offer anyone a £4 million contract
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 7, 2024 7:56:07 GMT
Osian We have budget limits and he may fail but he will not be as clueless as Page Apparently he's on 1 million a year. Yes, read it again, 1 MILLION. 1.2 million. Robert Page is on 1.2 million. Here's a list of managers at the Euros he earns more than Rangnick, Austria. £1.28m. Domenico Tedesco, Belgium. £1.28m. Zlatko Dalic, Croatia. £1.28m. Dragan Stojkovic, Serbia. £1.2m. Luis de la Fuente, Spain. £1.07m. Serhiy Rebrov, Ukraine. £1.07m. Kasper Hjulmand, Denmark. £980,000. Sylvinho, Albania. £643,000. Michal Probierz, Poland. £480,000. Steve Clarke, SCOTLAND. £472,000. Francesco Calzona, Slovakia, £463,000. Marco Rossi, Hungary. £257,000. Matjaz Kek Slovenia. £257,000. Ivan Hasek Czech Republic. £214,000. Edi Iordanescu, Romania. £206,000. Willy Sagnol, Georgia. £172,000. Look at some of those names. Every time there's talk of sacking Page it's always "Well who else is there?" Well boys there's a lot for 1.2 million. We pay more than Spain and Belgium. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 7, 2024 8:04:07 GMT
How do you know that, seriously where are you getting the numbers from? Is that £1.2m a year or for the whole contract?
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Post by rushy on Jun 7, 2024 8:15:44 GMT
There are countless industries that currently employ people who lack the ability , experience and general knowhow of being in a position of power. Not least the current government, the Post Office and our very own Welsh Team Manager, all being substantially overpaid .
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Post by marsvolta on Jun 7, 2024 8:25:13 GMT
Apparently he's on 1 million a year. Yes, read it again, 1 MILLION. 1.2 million. Robert Page is on 1.2 million. Here's a list of managers at the Euros he earns more than Rangnick, Austria. £1.28m. Domenico Tedesco, Belgium. £1.28m. Zlatko Dalic, Croatia. £1.28m. Dragan Stojkovic, Serbia. £1.2m. Luis de la Fuente, Spain. £1.07m. Serhiy Rebrov, Ukraine. £1.07m. Kasper Hjulmand, Denmark. £980,000. Sylvinho, Albania. £643,000. Michal Probierz, Poland. £480,000. Steve Clarke, SCOTLAND. £472,000. Francesco Calzona, Slovakia, £463,000. Marco Rossi, Hungary. £257,000. Matjaz Kek Slovenia. £257,000. Ivan Hasek Czech Republic. £214,000. Edi Iordanescu, Romania. £206,000. Willy Sagnol, Georgia. £172,000. Look at some of those names. Every time there's talk of sacking Page it's always "Well who else is there?" Well boys there's a lot for 1.2 million. We pay more than Spain and Belgium. Surely that’s £300,000 a year for four years, not £1.2m a year? I’m sure Giggs was on something like £450,000 a year |
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Post by hooky on Jun 7, 2024 8:32:53 GMT
I thought it was £300k+
OMG
Wales boss Page broke the £1m barrier in terms of his annual wages when he signed a new contract with the FAW back in September. Page's £1.2m salary is more than four times that of former Liverpool defender Song, who makes less than £300,000 as the head coach of Cameroon.15 Nov 2022
We are stuck with him for 2 years. FFS. How on earth can someone so mediocre hit the lottery like that
Only in Wales could this happen
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Post by dai on Jun 7, 2024 8:33:09 GMT
Im sure I read he’s on £300k a year, which would mean 1.2m overall.
He’s not on 1.2m a year. Impossible.
Giggs was on £350-£400k a year, so Page is overpaid anyway.
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Post by hooky on Jun 7, 2024 8:34:47 GMT
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Post by talyfan on Jun 7, 2024 8:36:14 GMT
What worries me is Page constantly talking about we're in transition. If this is what we're transitioning into I'm worried.
Players didn't help him last night. Hopefully they won't for much longer some of them.
We do need to define how and the way we go about playing, last numbers of games I don't think we've seen that. Argue all you like about little contact time but most teams we've come u against have a way of playing. We've got to adapt to a system which suits our best players and the overall squad, and also being adaptable to our opponents.
Same goes for squad selection. What's the rationale behind some of these call ups? Young lads totally get want to bleed them in. But some of them I do question their warrant for being selected.
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Post by hooky on Jun 7, 2024 8:36:35 GMT
How do you know that, seriously where are you getting the numbers from? Is that £1.2m a year or for the whole contract? The whole of the contract would make sense but as stated if its per year then we are stuck with him. |
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Post by dai on Jun 7, 2024 8:41:37 GMT
How do you know that, seriously where are you getting the numbers from? Is that £1.2m a year or for the whole contract? The whole of the contract would make sense but as stated if its per year then we are stuck with him. Its not per year. The FAW cannot afford 4.8m in salary alone. |
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Post by hooky on Jun 7, 2024 8:46:00 GMT
What worries me is Page constantly talking about we're in transition. If this is what we're transitioning into I'm worried. Players didn't help him last night. Hopefully they won't for much longer some of them. We do need to define how and the way we go about playing, last numbers of games I don't think we've seen that. Argue all you like about little contact time but most teams we've come u against have a way of playing. We've got to adapt to a system which suits our best players and the overall squad, and also being adaptable to our opponents. Same goes for squad selection. What's the rationale behind some of these call ups? Young lads totally get want to bleed them in. But some of them I do question their warrant for being selected. Seriously - many will argue they deserved it but anyone can see the likes of Sheehan and Savage are playing in the lower leagues because they are not very good and Burns and Cullen are very mediocre. Again they are poor and yet Sorba Thomas who is far more productive (in the top list of assists in the Championship 2 years in a row for a weak team I believe) in what he produces at Championship level seems to have the door shut in his face seemingly because he was upset at not being picked! Apparently Sheehan was upset too but ended up being made captain and helped produce that shower yesterday I just see no purpose in involving them and I expected us to struggle when I saw their names on the team sheet Crew was a big disappointment but he is just 17 and so we'll see how he develops. It was a bit worrying how slow he seemed in thought and deed but maybe he was nervous - as a kid, you make one mistake straight away and then it can go pear shaped Broadhead is an example of trying someone who delivers something back and so deserves his squad place Then you get the likes of Koumas - he has got it - his attitude and accuracy in what he does (including shots on target) persuade me he is a Premiership player. We are lucky to have him |
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Post by njdragon on Jun 7, 2024 8:52:49 GMT
I thought it was £300k+ OMG Wales boss Page broke the £1m barrier in terms of his annual wages when he signed a new contract with the FAW back in September. Page's £1.2m salary is more than four times that of former Liverpool defender Song, who makes less than £300,000 as the head coach of Cameroon.15 Nov 2022 We are stuck with him for 2 years. FFS. How on earth can someone so mediocre hit the lottery like that Only in Wales could this happen Worth pointing out that page was awarded this prior to World Cup in sept after all us welsh fans had won the lottery |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 7, 2024 8:54:16 GMT
There's no chance he's on 1m a year
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 7, 2024 8:56:12 GMT
Another case of someone’s in the know mate being full of it like most in the know mates are
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Post by morg on Jun 7, 2024 9:34:32 GMT
Can't see anything definitive online that he's on that amount. Think he was on about 350k in previous contract.
FAW accounts are filed online at Companies House appear to show staff salaries increasing from ~2.5 million in YE 2022 to over £5 million in 2023. Can't see any further breakdown than that. Dunno if that might include WC bonuses etc.
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Post by fireboy0610 on Jun 7, 2024 9:48:29 GMT
Another case of someone’s in the know mate being full of it like most in the know mates are It is correct that page is on more than 1m a year, its upto you whether you believe it or not. |
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