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Post by conwy10 on Jun 23, 2024 21:15:50 GMT
I can't see us qualifying for the World Cup again. We just aren't that good anymore. As long as we qualify for Euros I think that is more than enough for me. That's the spirit. There'll be equal sides on paper to us qualifying. Have faith. Nah just being realistic. I won't kick off if we don't qualify for the World Cup but think we need to be expecting the Euros regularly. We need to Tey and be a solid 2nd tier team.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 24, 2024 2:30:11 GMT
It's not just a matter of adapting. There's a vast difference in the level and the intensity the two sports are played at and that has to be considered too. Why can't a Cymru Premier manager just "adapt" and coach at a much higher level? I'm sure an experienced football league manager would find it much easier the other way round if they fancied a stint managing Barry Town United. There are other concerns too. Look at the abuse managers get in the men's game, even Page got it after achieving a lot with Wales. Imagine a female coach being targeted with all that. That element doesn't even exist in the women's game as far as I can see. If even hooky's questioning Ludlow's contribution when she was managing Wales women, then you have think people are suggesting it for reasons other than footballing ones. You’re conflating (and confusing) ability and adaptability. A Cymru Premier coach can’t coach at a higher level because they don’t have the ability. We’re talking here about being able to adapt between the slightly different requirements of the two games. As mention, men are often able to this (or, more accurately perhaps, they are given the chance to do this) Are you suggesting that women, fundamentally, can’t possess the technical, personal and psychological skills and ability to coach football at a high level? That they are somehow not programmed to understand football completely? And regarding your point about abuse that managers get… why is that even a concern? If you are still of the mindset that women need to protected and sheltered from the unpleasant things in life, then it’s quite concerning and I don’t think this discussion is going to get much further. The differences in the two sports are not slight, they are vast, as mentioned in my initial comment. Watch the two side by side and that will become apparent to you. Why am I concerned about the abuse they might get? It's something called compassion. When performances and results go down the u-bend and we finish 5th or 6th in a qualifying group they'll get it big time and that won't be pleasant for any of us to witness. What's ironic is I guarantee people like you would be the first ones getting outraged as to why anyone allowed them to be put in such a position were that to ever to happen. You didn't address my last point. There are very good reasons why it's never happened and it almost certainly never will. Even if it became feasible Jayne Ludlow's name isn't even in the frame for the Wales job right now, so why is it even being brought up?
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 24, 2024 4:12:22 GMT
Adaptation suggests need to develop and/or change. Matty Jones as Welsh youth manager has spent time with women's team as part of his/their development and I see no reason this cannot be reversed with the potential of a permanent switch with the right candidate
We haven't seen Cymru Premier managers jump into EFL team but we have seen club physio's (Adkins), analysts (Will Still), translators (Jose Mourinho) and even bankers (Sarri) make the transition, but this is rare and these roles mostly came alongside minor coaching roles with increasing responsibility before the full step up. More common is ex-players without managerial experience but this has had very mixed results. It seems that jumping in with too much difference in role increases risks of failure...who knew? Think the idea that I) potential managerial abuse should stop the idea is pretty foul and ii) another thread on this site is being turned into this discussion point is less than ideal. So a national team youth manager can help out at a level equivalent to or even lower than where he's been coaching?...who knew? How would that work the other way round? What would female coaches at that level have to offer players in the men's game? And who would this "right candidate" be? Whole thing just seems like a crusade for some people. Why is it something that needs to happen when there's no evidence to suggest it would be successful? Could it just be that people within the game realise that it isn't really viable rather than some terrible social injustice that people like you want to make noise about? Let's not sell ourselves short here, the Wales job is still a prestigious one and as you correctly said in a subsequent post can serve as a springboard for other (better?) positions within the professional game. Perhaps we should just focus on getting the best person available for the job and put the political agendas to one side.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 24, 2024 4:22:14 GMT
You’re conflating (and confusing) ability and adaptability. A Cymru Premier coach can’t coach at a higher level because they don’t have the ability. We’re talking here about being able to adapt between the slightly different requirements of the two games. As mention, men are often able to this (or, more accurately perhaps, they are given the chance to do this) Are you suggesting that women, fundamentally, can’t possess the technical, personal and psychological skills and ability to coach football at a high level? That they are somehow not programmed to understand football completely? And regarding your point about abuse that managers get… why is that even a concern? If you are still of the mindset that women need to protected and sheltered from the unpleasant things in life, then it’s quite concerning and I don’t think this discussion is going to get much further. I wouldn't bother with this guy. He's off the deep end. See the women's team thread Maybe you should have another look at that thread yourself. You seem awfully offended by disagreement. Forums are supposed to be a place for discussion, not echo chambers for your own beliefs. Just my 2c.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 24, 2024 6:10:54 GMT
That's the spirit. There'll be equal sides on paper to us qualifying. Have faith. Nah just being realistic. I won't kick off if we don't qualify for the World Cup but think we need to be expecting the Euros regularly. We need to Tey and be a solid 2nd tier team. Who's saying anything about kicking off if we don't qualify? All I'd ask is we give it a good go.
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Post by melynwy on Jun 24, 2024 8:18:51 GMT
You’re conflating (and confusing) ability and adaptability. A Cymru Premier coach can’t coach at a higher level because they don’t have the ability. We’re talking here about being able to adapt between the slightly different requirements of the two games. As mention, men are often able to this (or, more accurately perhaps, they are given the chance to do this) Are you suggesting that women, fundamentally, can’t possess the technical, personal and psychological skills and ability to coach football at a high level? That they are somehow not programmed to understand football completely? And regarding your point about abuse that managers get… why is that even a concern? If you are still of the mindset that women need to protected and sheltered from the unpleasant things in life, then it’s quite concerning and I don’t think this discussion is going to get much further. The differences in the two sports are not slight, they are vast, as mentioned in my initial comment. Watch the two side by side and that will become apparent to you. Why am I concerned about the abuse they might get? It's something called compassion. When performances and results go down the u-bend and we finish 5th or 6th in a qualifying group they'll get it big time and that won't be pleasant for any of us to witness. What's ironic is I guarantee people like you would be the first ones getting outraged as to why anyone allowed them to be put in such a position were that to ever to happen. You didn't address my last point. There are very good reasons why it's never happened and it almost certainly never will. Even if it became feasible Jayne Ludlow's name isn't even in the frame for the Wales job right now, so why is it even being brought up? This is getting to the point of satire on your behalf now. There is a difference between the two games, that much is true. But it's still the same game. Plenty of male managers are in the women's game - you seem to be side-stepping this all the time. What makes a man inherently more suitable to adapt to the differences? Or by 'differences', do you really mean 'weakness' in the women's game, and as such any man can easily cope with that? A lot of football management is about psychology, technical understanding of the game and people management skills. All skills required in other professions that women do very successfully. What we're discussing is most likely going to happen in the next few years, and is going become more common. What you're saying is true in that, initially, if they fail, the first few female managers will probably face a horrendous time. But that will be because of the attitudes of some men. Women have had to face it over the decades when fighting to move into employment, into business management etc. - all kinds of situations they previously weren't 'supposed' to be in. Denying that to them is not "compassion"; it's something much more sinister. You're essentially saying that because people like you will try to scare them away, they shouldn't try at all. Well, you don't have that power. As I said. It will happen, it will become more normal, and it will eventually become accepted. So, to boil it down to basics. What do you think makes a female brain unsuitable to coaching a male football team? I'll be honest with you that these attitudes of yours, and the way you present them, are having much more of an effect on me than typical forum posts, to the point that I don't really want to come here and read them (but I quite enjoy the forum otherwise and don't want to stop visiting, and I can't help but respond when I see your posts). They are fairly worrying and as I said, sinister. Can you at least take a second to at least consider the possibility that you're wrong? That your views are based on prejudice?
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jun 24, 2024 8:55:22 GMT
Chauvinists always looks ridiculous with hindsight.
"As late as 1991, when Ron Noades, the then-chairman of Crystal Palace, said: “The black players at this club lend the side a lot of skill and flair, but you also need white players to balance things up and give the team some brains and common sense.”
How ludicrous and pathetic that now sounds. At the time there would have been plenty who would have agreed with those sentiments.
First people said black people can't defend then Viv Anderson came along. Then it was "black players are useless in goal". Now there are loads of top class black goalies.
It was really obvious, to any reflective person, that this was garbage, unless you were a racist and genuinely believed in there being significant differences between the races.
Women are already proving their capabilities officiating the men's game. Sian Massey is very highly regarded by Swans fans, having officiated at several matches, and made lots of good calls. It will probably take a while before women are given coaching opportunities, but it is just a matter of time. For one simple reason - there are no significant differences between the sexes, and clubs won't want to deprive themselves of the services of talented women.
In the fullness of time current attitudes towards women coaches will seem as embarrassing as Noades' views on black players.
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 24, 2024 11:43:47 GMT
Nah just being realistic. I won't kick off if we don't qualify for the World Cup but think we need to be expecting the Euros regularly. We need to Tey and be a solid 2nd tier team. Who's saying anything about kicking off if we don't qualify? All I'd ask is we give it a good go. No one said anything. I mean I was extremely disappointed we didn't qualify for the Euros so I guess I was kicking off over it. Basically I have the Euros down as an expectation but the World Cup as a dream.
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 24, 2024 14:14:59 GMT
For me I want Osian. I don't think it'd happening.
Id like to see us try for Rossi of Hungary. We can afford him.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 24, 2024 14:36:39 GMT
Chauvinists always looks ridiculous with hindsight. "As late as 1991, when Ron Noades, the then-chairman of Crystal Palace, said: “The black players at this club lend the side a lot of skill and flair, but you also need white players to balance things up and give the team some brains and common sense.” How ludicrous and pathetic that now sounds. At the time there would have been plenty who would have agreed with those sentiments. First people said black people can't defend then Viv Anderson came along. Then it was "black players are useless in goal". Now there are loads of top class black goalies. It was really obvious, to any reflective person, that this was garbage, unless you were a racist and genuinely believed in there being significant differences between the races. Women are already proving their capabilities officiating the men's game. Sian Massey is very highly regarded by Swans fans, having officiated at several matches, and made lots of good calls. It will probably take a while before women are given coaching opportunities, but it is just a matter of time. For one simple reason - there are no significant differences between the sexes, and clubs won't want to deprive themselves of the services of talented women. In the fullness of time current attitudes towards women coaches will seem as embarrassing as Noades' views on black players. 100% but the chauvinists of the moment can't/refuse to recognise that. They think they are right because they can't see outside of their echo chambers/bubble with their "common sense' points that make zero sense. But you're right, in time they always look ridiculous
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Post by surge on Jun 24, 2024 18:02:07 GMT
Here's a question, do you think we'll find a permanent manager before the Republic of Ireland?
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Post by marsvolta on Jun 24, 2024 18:30:46 GMT
Here's a question, do you think we'll find a permanent manager before the Republic of Ireland? Jesus! Oh yeah! I forgot they were still looking. Wasn’t Coleman linked at one time, what happened there?
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Post by bluebird68 on Jun 24, 2024 20:34:23 GMT
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Post by talyfan on Jun 24, 2024 20:41:16 GMT
Must've been scouring on here DragonBet
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Post by talyfan on Jun 24, 2024 20:41:56 GMT
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Post by smudger1 on Jun 24, 2024 20:47:26 GMT
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Post by smudger1 on Jun 24, 2024 20:53:23 GMT
I can’t see Henry taking it? Would we want Giggs back? Not sure about that one. Bellamy and Roberts would be a good option I think .
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Post by iot on Jun 24, 2024 21:00:48 GMT
Would Graham Potter be interested? Probably too much of a longshot, but didn't he express an interest on a previous occasion before he got the Swansea job? Might be a way for him to get his career back on track - a good couple of years to take us to the world cup and then another premier league job to follow - a win-win all round!
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Post by welshrover on Jun 24, 2024 21:22:49 GMT
I wouldn't bother with this guy. He's off the deep end. See the women's team thread Maybe you should have another look at that thread yourself. You seem awfully offended by disagreement. Forums are supposed to be a place for discussion, not echo chambers for your own beliefs. Just my 2c. Couldn't agree more, this place has become back slappers central. If you tow the party line it is fine, if you dare have an opinion that differs from the accepted then wo betide you. It would appear there are less and less of us who are not being brainwashed.
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Post by iot on Jun 24, 2024 21:49:58 GMT
Maybe you should have another look at that thread yourself. You seem awfully offended by disagreement. Forums are supposed to be a place for discussion, not echo chambers for your own beliefs. Just my 2c. Couldn't agree more, this place has become back slappers central. If you tow the party line it is fine, if you dare have an opinion that differs from the accepted then wo betide you. It would appear there are less and less of us who are not being brainwashed. That's funny. You think people are brainwashed just because they're calling out backward views. If you look back at the last century, there's been constant progress on issues such at these with greater rights and opportunities given to groups in society that didn't previously have the same access. At each point there have been people like you and Mr Picton, set in their ways, who disprove of such progress because it makes you feel uncomfortable, it's not what you know and doesn't sit comfortably with how you see the world working. But progress happens all the same because there is logic to it. In this case, there is underutilised human capital with regards to the role that women can play in men's football and more and more clubs and other professionals within the game will seek to utilise that out of their own self interest. We're seeing more female involvement in refereeing and commentating, and coaching will be the next step. In time this will be considered normal practice
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Post by welshrover on Jun 24, 2024 22:53:08 GMT
Couldn't agree more, this place has become back slappers central. If you tow the party line it is fine, if you dare have an opinion that differs from the accepted then wo betide you. It would appear there are less and less of us who are not being brainwashed. That's funny. You think people are brainwashed just because they're calling out backward views. If you look back at the last century, there's been constant progress on issues such at these with greater rights and opportunities given to groups in society that didn't previously have the same access. At each point there have been people like you and Mr Picton, set in their ways, who disprove of such progress because it makes you feel uncomfortable, it's not what you know and doesn't sit comfortably with how you see the world working. But progress happens all the same because there is logic to it. In this case, there is underutilised human capital with regards to the role that women can play in men's football and more and more clubs and other professionals within the game will seek to utilise that out of their own self interest. We're seeing more female involvement in refereeing and commentating, and coaching will be the next step. In time this will be considered normal practice I find it quite incredible that you say, without fear of contradiction, that I "find it uncomfortable" how do you know what I am feeling, are you a psychic or do you have extra sensory powers? Unfortunately for yourself you have endorsed the very point I was making that there is an accepted thought process on here and anybody who doesn't follow that process is automatically deemed XY and Z. As Mrpicton has previously stated this is "allegedly" a discussion board not a vehicle for one way opinions where views contrary to the popular can't be aired. How I wish Neil had kept his board going.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 24, 2024 23:09:56 GMT
That's funny. You think people are brainwashed just because they're calling out backward views. If you look back at the last century, there's been constant progress on issues such at these with greater rights and opportunities given to groups in society that didn't previously have the same access. At each point there have been people like you and Mr Picton, set in their ways, who disprove of such progress because it makes you feel uncomfortable, it's not what you know and doesn't sit comfortably with how you see the world working. But progress happens all the same because there is logic to it. In this case, there is underutilised human capital with regards to the role that women can play in men's football and more and more clubs and other professionals within the game will seek to utilise that out of their own self interest. We're seeing more female involvement in refereeing and commentating, and coaching will be the next step. In time this will be considered normal practice I find it quite incredible that you say, without fear of contradiction, that I "find it uncomfortable" how do you know what I am feeling, are you a psychic or do you have extra sensory powers? Unfortunately for yourself you have endorsed the very point I was making that there is an accepted thought process on here and anybody who doesn't follow that process is automatically deemed XY and Z. As Mrpicton has previously stated this is "allegedly" a discussion board not a vehicle for one way opinions where views contrary to the popular can't be aired. How I wish Neil had kept his board going. I find it quite incredible that you lot ALWAYS keep on about how you "can't air your views" on here, despite many of you being freely allowed to do so repeatedly on multiple threads Just because you're being called out by several people for having rubbish illogical opinions doesn't mean you're being "silenced", you're still freely posting them. The whole "you get cancelled for saying unpopular opinions" thing is just complete nonsense
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Post by iot on Jun 24, 2024 23:12:37 GMT
That's funny. You think people are brainwashed just because they're calling out backward views. If you look back at the last century, there's been constant progress on issues such at these with greater rights and opportunities given to groups in society that didn't previously have the same access. At each point there have been people like you and Mr Picton, set in their ways, who disprove of such progress because it makes you feel uncomfortable, it's not what you know and doesn't sit comfortably with how you see the world working. But progress happens all the same because there is logic to it. In this case, there is underutilised human capital with regards to the role that women can play in men's football and more and more clubs and other professionals within the game will seek to utilise that out of their own self interest. We're seeing more female involvement in refereeing and commentating, and coaching will be the next step. In time this will be considered normal practice I find it quite incredible that you say, without fear of contradiction, that I "find it uncomfortable" how do you know what I am feeling, are you a psychic or do you have extra sensory powers? Unfortunately for yourself you have endorsed the very point I was making that there is an accepted thought process on here and anybody who doesn't follow that process is automatically deemed XY and Z. As Mrpicton has previously stated this is "allegedly" a discussion board not a vehicle for one way opinions where views contrary to the popular can't be aired. How I wish Neil had kept his board going. Bloody hell, you plain speaking / common sense types don't half whinge and moan about other people's comments. Sorry to disappoint, but there's no cancel culture going on here I'm afraid. It is a discussion board. You and Mr Picton are free to drone on about how terrible you think women's voices in the game are, and others are free to respond and say that they think you've got some pretty terrible views on this. Freedom of speech and all that, so I'd be grateful if you stopped trying to cancel me please. What would you have Neil do exactly if he were moderating the Board, delete our posts?
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 25, 2024 2:59:09 GMT
The differences in the two sports are not slight, they are vast, as mentioned in my initial comment. Watch the two side by side and that will become apparent to you. Why am I concerned about the abuse they might get? It's something called compassion. When performances and results go down the u-bend and we finish 5th or 6th in a qualifying group they'll get it big time and that won't be pleasant for any of us to witness. What's ironic is I guarantee people like you would be the first ones getting outraged as to why anyone allowed them to be put in such a position were that to ever to happen. You didn't address my last point. There are very good reasons why it's never happened and it almost certainly never will. Even if it became feasible Jayne Ludlow's name isn't even in the frame for the Wales job right now, so why is it even being brought up? This is getting to the point of satire on your behalf now. There is a difference between the two games, that much is true. But it's still the same game. Plenty of male managers are in the women's game - you seem to be side-stepping this all the time. What makes a man inherently more suitable to adapt to the differences? Or by 'differences', do you really mean 'weakness' in the women's game, and as such any man can easily cope with that? A lot of football management is about psychology, technical understanding of the game and people management skills. All skills required in other professions that women do very successfully. What we're discussing is most likely going to happen in the next few years, and is going become more common. What you're saying is true in that, initially, if they fail, the first few female managers will probably face a horrendous time. But that will be because of the attitudes of some men. Women have had to face it over the decades when fighting to move into employment, into business management etc. - all kinds of situations they previously weren't 'supposed' to be in. Denying that to them is not "compassion"; it's something much more sinister. You're essentially saying that because people like you will try to scare them away, they shouldn't try at all. Well, you don't have that power. As I said. It will happen, it will become more normal, and it will eventually become accepted. So, to boil it down to basics. What do you think makes a female brain unsuitable to coaching a male football team? I'll be honest with you that these attitudes of yours, and the way you present them, are having much more of an effect on me than typical forum posts, to the point that I don't really want to come here and read them (but I quite enjoy the forum otherwise and don't want to stop visiting, and I can't help but respond when I see your posts). They are fairly worrying and as I said, sinister. Can you at least take a second to at least consider the possibility that you're wrong? That your views are based on prejudice? Lot to unpack there... It's the same game played at a completely different level. Most people are qualified to drive a road vehicle that in theory operates the same as an F1 car. They both have gears, accelerators, brakes, steering wheel etc. But in reality it's not the same at all. Max Verstappen could hop into whatever car you drive and handle it comfortably. Could you drive his Red Bull RB20 around the circuit to the same standard he does because you know how to drive a car? Doubtful. Where's the evidence it's going to happen in the next few years? I remember Hope Powell (former England women's manager) saying it's going to happen very soon, must have been over a decade ago now. People were saying it about Emma Hayes a few years ago. What has happened on that front in the meantime? Nothing. Perhaps the people that run the game never pursued the idea because they sussed out that it wouldn't be feasible with the two sports being so vastly different. You would never tout a low level male manager for the Wales job because he coached a boys team for a few years. He'd have to start at the bottom of the professional game, come through the ranks and prove his worth over time to be considered. Surely the same should apply to any potential female candidate. Men and women are equal right? It has nothing to with scaring anyone away. As I pointed out earlier they will have zero experience of the abuse in men's football from working in the women's game. Nobody knows what affect that could have on somebody not familiar with it. With all the mental health awareness we have now I have no doubt that would be a concern. Strange that you would twist that point to make it sound like it was something "sinister". Sensing a bit of desperation there. Why does it have to happen? Might the game just carry on as it always has done for over a 100 years if it doesn't? Sounds like even the idea that it won't happen will send you into meltdown. Relax. If you read my posts like a normal person you'll see there's nothing sinister or prejudiced in anything I'm saying. Anyone's welcome to question my views and we can debate it like adults if they wish. The only thing preventing that happening is when people act entitled and get all hurt because people someone has the nerve to express opinions that don't align with their own.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 25, 2024 3:01:06 GMT
*FAO mods - I'm aware that's long post, if you want us to take this to a different thread let us know.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 25, 2024 4:22:07 GMT
Couldn't agree more, this place has become back slappers central. If you tow the party line it is fine, if you dare have an opinion that differs from the accepted then wo betide you. It would appear there are less and less of us who are not being brainwashed. That's funny. You think people are brainwashed just because they're calling out backward views. If you look back at the last century, there's been constant progress on issues such at these with greater rights and opportunities given to groups in society that didn't previously have the same access. At each point there have been people like you and Mr Picton, set in their ways, who disprove of such progress because it makes you feel uncomfortable, it's not what you know and doesn't sit comfortably with how you see the world working. But progress happens all the same because there is logic to it. In this case, there is underutilised human capital with regards to the role that women can play in men's football and more and more clubs and other professionals within the game will seek to utilise that out of their own self interest. We're seeing more female involvement in refereeing and commentating, and coaching will be the next step. In time this will be considered normal practice And this is the problem with the woke movement, it doesn't know where to stop. You'd think all the help and the huge push from the media the women's game has received in recent times would satisfy people that progress is being made. But no, women have to be directly involved in the men's game too otherwise society is being disgustingly sexist and backward. Where does it end? For the record I don't recall seeing too many female referees at the Euros. I've heard two female commentators and neither have been near the standard of most their male counterparts. Coaching next? Wouldn't hold your breath on that one.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 25, 2024 4:55:45 GMT
I find it quite incredible that you say, without fear of contradiction, that I "find it uncomfortable" how do you know what I am feeling, are you a psychic or do you have extra sensory powers? Unfortunately for yourself you have endorsed the very point I was making that there is an accepted thought process on here and anybody who doesn't follow that process is automatically deemed XY and Z. As Mrpicton has previously stated this is "allegedly" a discussion board not a vehicle for one way opinions where views contrary to the popular can't be aired. How I wish Neil had kept his board going. I find it quite incredible that you lot ALWAYS keep on about how you "can't air your views" on here, despite many of you being freely allowed to do so repeatedly on multiple threads Just because you're being called out by several people for having rubbish illogical opinions doesn't mean you're being "silenced", you're still freely posting them. The whole "you get cancelled for saying unpopular opinions" thing is just complete nonsense He's talking about the intolerance people like you display when someone expresses an opinion you don't agree with. That very post is a perfect example. It's you that's in the bubble. You're never going to be able to debate things like an adult if you can't accept sometimes people will have different opinions to your own. You've become accustomed to everyone agreeing with everything you say but the real world doesn't work like that.
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Post by surge on Jun 25, 2024 5:27:41 GMT
*FAO mods - I'm aware that's long post, if you want us to take this to a different thread let us know. I think there needs to be some restraint shown, potentially on both sides. It feels like you've made your point now 7-8 times and all that's developed in that time is whether you should be able to make your point or not. Other people want to read/use this board too. Some will agree with you, some won't, but I suspect the majority will be tired of you/this dominating things with your repeated viewpoint. Really no one should want their username to be seen and people to groan before the text is even read but you're heading in that direction, fairly or unfairly. Please consider that your last post in the thread (single - oh no, you can't escape it) on women's football was deleted when you posted after the thread had been politely asked to move on. For those disagreeing, maybe one post simply saying he's wrong and then multiple thumbs up for that post? P.s. Geoff Norcott was the conservative comedian on the (largely leftie) Mash Report comedy show. That was a good segment.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jun 25, 2024 6:22:38 GMT
*FAO mods - I'm aware that's long post, if you want us to take this to a different thread let us know. Or you could just stop repeating yourself? You've made your point now 7-8 times and all that's developed in that time is whether you should be able to make your point or not. Other people want to read/use this board too. Some will agree with you, some won't, but I suspect the majority will be tired of you dominating things with your repeated viewpoint. Especially after your last post in the thread (single - oh no, you can't escape it) on women's football was deleted when you posted after the thread had been politely asked to move on. For those disagreeing, maybe one post simply saying he's wrong and then multiple thumbs up for that post? P.s. Geoff Norcott was the conservative comedian on the (largely leftie) Mash Report comedy show. That was a good segment. Looky here, it's another lefty wet-wipe getting offended 🙄 I've made 9 posts in 4 pages of this thread. I'm hardly the one dominating or repeating myself here. But if the volume of posts is a problem for you why don't you go tell your gender pronoun buddies to stop using women's football as a platform to virtue signal, particularly when it has no relevance whatsoever to the thread. That's generally a good way to stop people interjecting with hurtful common sense 👍
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 25, 2024 6:34:21 GMT
Bloody hell mrpicton79 , go for a walk or something. The discussion on both sides was at least reasonable until your last post
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