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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 11:07:58 GMT
Assuming Evans is being genuine, I can't think of anyone better out there at advising young professionals of the temptations and potential pitfalls that are out there. Whether the parents see it that way is another matter. As I've said, Evans isn't going to find it easy to enhance his battered reputation, for perfectly understandable reasons. He's going to have to work hard at trying to undo some of the damage that his conduct has caused, and it's pretty certain that there will be a section of the population who won't let him put his past misdemenours behind him regardless of what he does now. My gut feeling is that even if he creates a compelling footballing case for inclusion in the squad, the very earliest Evans could represent Wales again is next season - and even that depends on what he does, and is seen to do, in the meantime. One thing's for sure, there isn't going to be an easy path to redemption for Evans (unlike, in contrast, the one presented to Troy Deeney), but that's how it should be. Yes, there should be a far easier 'path to redepmtion' for a guilty man than an innocent one. Christ. Logic is taking a long holiday on this thread, isn't it? Best thing Ched can do is score goals and be quiet. Do NOT talk to the media, EVER. Just play football and STOP APOLOGISING. Apologising is for the guilty, and that is how the Mail, The Sun and the Guardian will spin it every time he opens his mouth. Yes and he is likely to struggle enough with the former never mind the latter. |
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Post by biwmares on Oct 17, 2016 19:01:48 GMT
Here are some statistics on sexual assaults in North Wales & nine out of 10 rape complaints made to police don’t result in anyone being charged with the crime. www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/no-charges-9-out-10-12036337williamwilson666 the North Wales Police are the worst Police force in the UK on everything concerning law & order a shambolic vindictive bunch of keystone cops. |
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Post by yanto on Oct 17, 2016 20:44:55 GMT
'Start rebuild his reputation through involvement in training programmes for young footballers'? Really Alarch? You think parents will welcome him in with his reputation? Assuming Evans is being genuine, I can't think of anyone better out there at advising young professionals of the temptations and potential pitfalls that are out there. Whether the parents see it that way is another matter. As I've said, Evans isn't going to find it easy to enhance his battered reputation, for perfectly understandable reasons. He's going to have to work hard at trying to undo some of the damage that his conduct has caused, and it's pretty certain that there will be a section of the population who won't let him put his past misdemenours behind him regardless of what he does now. My gut feeling is that even if he creates a compelling footballing case for inclusion in the squad, the very earliest Evans could represent Wales again is next season - and even that depends on what he does, and is seen to do, in the meantime. One thing's for sure, there isn't going to be an easy path to redemption for Evans (unlike, in contrast, the one presented to Troy Deeney), but that's how it should be. I think your first point would require evans being contrite don't see much evidence of that |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 18, 2016 11:35:08 GMT
Is Rhyl a place to avoid going for a night out?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 11:42:57 GMT
Is Rhyl a place to avoid going for a night out? Why don't you ask Ched? |
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Oct 18, 2016 12:34:01 GMT
Is Rhyl a place to avoid going for a night out? Why don't you ask Ched? Yes bro you got his number? |
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Post by dai on Oct 19, 2016 9:42:17 GMT
My father and uncle attended a talk/q&a night with Ian Gwyn Hughes a few nights ago, and apparently the general consensus and vibe from IGH was that Ched will never play for Wales again. He didn't categorically say it, but was strongly implied.
I'm not going to read to much into it really.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Oct 19, 2016 11:11:51 GMT
My father and uncle attended a talk/q&a night with Ian Gwyn Hughes a few nights ago, and apparently the general consensus and vibe from IGH was that Ched will never play for Wales again. He didn't categorically say it, but was strongly implied. I'm not going to read to much into it really. If this was implied would his solicitors use this to get more compensation out of his original solicitors? Btw Ched played the last half hour last night after returning from injury and the appearance in court. Chesterfield still lost 1-0. |
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Post by dwain on Oct 19, 2016 17:50:40 GMT
Since when did IGH pick the squad!
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Post by alternativewales on Oct 20, 2016 0:13:31 GMT
Shall see what happens, but can not imagine IGH would be very fussed on having Chedwyn back in the squad after the good PR after the Euro's.
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Post by alternativewales on Oct 20, 2016 0:15:45 GMT
Is Rhyl a place to avoid going for a night out? Why don't you ask Ched? If you can not get in touch with Ched, ask Clayton McDonald. |
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Post by biwmares on Nov 18, 2016 8:00:46 GMT
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Post by richierich333 on Nov 18, 2016 11:54:11 GMT
...And what about the fact that he went out of his way to cheat on your daughter??? He is very lucky her and her family are by his side. He doesn't deserve that and I think he knows it. The worst thing is people on here will attack Giggs/Savage/Mohammed for being England lovers and call them c##t's and then defend poor little Ched for being picked on. He's NOT guilty of a crime, granted. However he put himself in that situation, just him no one else. If you don't turn up to a friendly you get the death penalty for treason but if you two's up on a very drunk young woman behind your partner's back, while your brother films it (WTF!!!), 'ah its just a bit of banter init he didn't rape her'. |
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Post by dai on Nov 18, 2016 12:26:21 GMT
...And what about the fact that he went out of his way to cheat on your daughter??? He is very lucky her and her family are by his side. He doesn't deserve that and I think he knows it. The worst thing is people on here will attack Giggs/Savage/Mohammed for being England lovers and call them c##t's and then defend poor little Ched for being picked on. He's NOT guilty of a crime, granted. However he put himself in that situation, just him no one else. If you don't turn up to a friendly you get the death penalty for treason but if you two's up on a very drunk young woman behind your partner's back, while your brother films it (WTF!!!), 'ah its just a bit of banter init he didn't rape her'. I think most of us on here are ashamed of what he did, and that alone is enough for some people to dismiss his international future. No-one has taken what he did lightly, however he was unfairly jailed and has thus wasted 3/4 years of his career. As for Giggs, he also shagged his brothers wife, cheated on his partner with various women and wasn't fully committed to Wales. Savage....I personally don't mind him. He says a few daft things, but that's because he's a bit twp more than anything else. Never liked Mohammed anyway. |
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Post by marsvolta on Nov 18, 2016 12:56:18 GMT
...And what about the fact that he went out of his way to cheat on your daughter??? He is very lucky her and her family are by his side. He doesn't deserve that and I think he knows it. The worst thing is people on here will attack Giggs/Savage/Mohammed for being England lovers and call them c##t's and then defend poor little Ched for being picked on. He's NOT guilty of a crime, granted. However he put himself in that situation, just him no one else. If you don't turn up to a friendly you get the death penalty for treason but if you two's up on a very drunk young woman behind your partner's back, while your brother films it (WTF!!!), 'ah its just a bit of banter init he didn't rape her'. It's not us saying he didn't rape her, it's a court of law saying that he didn't rape her. As for the Giggs/Mohammed/savage comparison, the major difference is that they are disliked for footballing reasons,not personal reasons. I've no interest in what someone does in their private life. The reason I don't like Giggs for example is nothing to do with him having an affair with his brothers wife, it's because he played for team GB when he had 'retired from international football' Similarly, I'm not a fan of Mohammed due to his backing of Team GB. Obviously rape is worse than playing for team GB, but he's been found not guilty. |
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Post by manulike on Jan 16, 2017 22:32:23 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 0:30:35 GMT
Give it a couple of seasons for Chesterfield to get relegated and Evans to disappear into obscurity and then we will all be saying "Ched who?" |
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Post by manulike on Jan 17, 2017 0:59:37 GMT
Give it a couple of seasons for Chesterfield to get relegated and Evans to disappear into obscurity and then we will all be saying "Ched who?" Being a Wrexham fan, I shall never forgive them beating us 1-0 in the FA Cup 1/4 finals... Looking forward to meeting them in the National League ;-) |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Jan 17, 2017 12:46:01 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Jan 17, 2017 16:36:54 GMT
He would of appealed and got the best barristers possible
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Post by rush on Apr 24, 2017 15:31:24 GMT
Want to resign Ched Evans. Championship club now,so the Wales recall might happen if he does well next season.
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Post by biwmares on Apr 24, 2017 15:32:33 GMT
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Post by phillywelsh83 on Apr 24, 2017 15:37:55 GMT
Great news for Ched and Wales. Playing Championship football next season.
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Post by welshiron on Apr 24, 2017 16:05:03 GMT
I personally hope he ever pulls on the Welsh shirt again
The circus that would surround his inclusion and the no doubt unsavoury chanting that will take place would far outweigh any psitives in my opinion
We also have several strikers that play in the championship already so unless he is prolific I see no reason for his inclusion based on playing reasons alone.
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Post by vandenhauwe on Apr 24, 2017 16:12:57 GMT
Lets hope the next wales manager decides wether to pick him or not on his footballing ability rather than the constant rubbish that gets talked about surrounding him!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2017 17:11:52 GMT
I'm very surprised at this. Had a read of a Chesterfield forum a week or ago to see what had happened to him, he hasn't played for a few weeks.
Some Chesterfield fans were offering to drive him to his next club, sounds like he isn't up to it after everything that has happened to him.
I was kind of hoping he would disappear into obscurity and make the choice of whether to pick him for Wales an easy one.
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Post by manulike on Apr 24, 2017 22:13:37 GMT
I'm very surprised at this. Had a read of a Chesterfield forum a week or ago to see what had happened to him, he hasn't played for a few weeks. Some Chesterfield fans were offering to drive him to his next club, sounds like he isn't up to it after everything that has happened to him. I was kind of hoping he would disappear into obscurity and make the choice of whether to pick him for Wales an easy one. Yes. Hasn't played since 4 March. Up until then, played 29 and scored 7 - last goal was ... on 10 December... www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=47379 |
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Post by BA Baracus on Apr 25, 2017 12:40:59 GMT
Heard from a Spireites fan that likely reason he hasn't played for them lately is that further appearances would have triggered more money (presumably to Ched) and the club are both relegated and in a financial mess.
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Post by llan123 on Apr 25, 2017 19:41:55 GMT
This debate always brings out the worst in Welsh fans. On one hand you've got those that say he should never put a Welsh shirt on again and on the other hand you have those who said he should have been immediately included in Cookies squad to stick to two fingers up at all those that slammed him over the years.
If he's good enough he should be included, simple as that. I happen to think he's not good enough and I have no idea why Sheffield United are signing him for a season in the Championship next year.
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 25, 2017 20:59:20 GMT
This debate always brings out the worst in Welsh fans. On one hand you've got those that say he should never put a Welsh shirt on again and on the other hand you have those who said he should have been immediately included in Cookies squad to stick to two fingers up at all those that slammed him over the years. If he's good enough he should be included, simple as that. I happen to think he's not good enough and I have no idea why Sheffield United are signing him for a season in the Championship next year. I'm with ŷou on this, I simply don't think he is good enough on present form so there should be no debate. No idea why people who used to say that he shouldn't have played cos he was found guilty are now are saying that he shouldn't play even though he is cleared. If they are saying that he shouldn't play irrespective of the court of laws decision then they should have said this before the first case or when he was first charged. |
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