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Post by flynnfan on Jan 12, 2013 19:53:41 GMT
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Post by njdragon on Jan 13, 2013 10:23:21 GMT
People are getting worked up because it's political capital. If we knew that it was down to Speed, but didn't know the reasons why then no-one would bat an eyelid. When Coleman's name was in the frame there was collective outrage at another potential Coleman balls up. Then the finger was pointed at the FAW and now it's a stick to beat them with. Who pulled the trigger dictates the general reaction imo. Yes because Gary Speed died in Nov 2011, Flynn's contract was terminated at the end of May 2012, 6 months after speed died. Regardless whoever made this decision - very bad move! Flynn should have been untouchable and given more respect after what he's done for welsh football and every attempt made to keep him onboard. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2013 13:46:04 GMT
People are getting worked up because it's political capital. If we knew that it was down to Speed, but didn't know the reasons why then no-one would bat an eyelid. When Coleman's name was in the frame there was collective outrage at another potential Coleman balls up. Then the finger was pointed at the FAW and now it's a stick to beat them with. Who pulled the trigger dictates the general reaction imo. Yes because Gary Speed died in Nov 2011, Flynn's contract was terminated at the end of May 2012, 6 months after speed died. Regardless whoever made this decision - very bad move! Flynn should have been untouchable and given more respect after what he's done for welsh football and every attempt made to keep him onboard. Where does it say it was terminated? From what people 'in the know' are saying the decision was made simply not to renew rather than sack him, that decision could have been made months previously and again, from those in the know it sounds like Speed had some input on the decision. Given the vows of silence that have been taken we will probably never get the whole story. |
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Post by njdragon on Jan 13, 2013 17:17:04 GMT
Yes because Gary Speed died in Nov 2011, Flynn's contract was terminated at the end of May 2012, 6 months after speed died. Regardless whoever made this decision - very bad move! Flynn should have been untouchable and given more respect after what he's done for welsh football and every attempt made to keep him onboard. Where does it say it was terminated? From what people 'in the know' are saying the decision was made simply not to renew rather than sack him, that decision could have been made months previously and again, from those in the know it sounds like Speed had some input on the decision. Given the vows of silence that have been taken we will probably never get the whole story. 'Our revelation that Flynn’s contract is to be terminated at the end of next month will come as a shock to many.' Read more: Wales Online www.walesonline.co.uk/footballnation/football-news/2012/04/27/comment-brian-flynn-can-leave-wales-set-up-with-head-held-high-91466-30848570/#ixzz2HsPml7H6Speed may not have got on with him but he was dead 6 months prior to this. The FAW have done nothing to keeps speeds legacy so why if this was speeds idea would they honour this wish? You cant blame someone who'd been dead for 6 months for this decision. |
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Post by Tim P on Jan 13, 2013 18:09:02 GMT
Flynn should have been untouchable No one in any sporting organisation should be untouchable - that is a recipe for disaster. |
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Post by njdragon on Jan 13, 2013 18:22:35 GMT
Flynn should have been untouchable No one in any sporting organisation should be untouchable - that is a recipe for disaster. Fergie?  ? what a recipe for disaster he's turned out to be. How about rephrasing that so it says 'No sporting organisation should be untouchable' such as perhaps hmmm... the FAW |
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Post by engllishred on Jan 17, 2013 16:35:22 GMT
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Post by flynnfan on Jan 17, 2013 20:26:32 GMT
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Post by Tim P on Jan 18, 2013 11:41:01 GMT
No one in any sporting organisation should be untouchable - that is a recipe for disaster. Fergie? ? what a recipe for disaster he's turned out to be. Assuming you mean Alex Ferguson, he has never been untouchable. He was nearly sacked early on. The only reason he's in a job is because he knows how to win trophies. |
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Post by toshfan on Mar 25, 2013 1:30:46 GMT
When talking about Joniesta, he finished with the following words:
"Delighted that I found him"
If this means it was Flynn who persuaded Williams to go with his Welsh roots at an early age, then we owe Flynn yet even more.
Those who question the value of the Tosh/Flynn years should reflect on the above ie it is not so simple to think that young players came through anyway.
I have also been informed that Robson-Kanu came into the fold due to Flynn.
It is no exaggeration to state that Tosh and Flynn saved Welsh Football and the roots of what we have were planted in this period. u21 football matters and it makes all of the difference.
Up Welsh Football!
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Mar 25, 2013 7:51:40 GMT
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Post by llannerch on Mar 25, 2013 12:31:58 GMT
It's not just finding them though. It's keeping them too. For instance we found Owen Hargreaves and Rhys Williams but couldn't keep either of them. So as productive as Flynn has been in unearthing Williams, Collison, Crofts, King, etc the key thing is that they stayed within the system after whatever point they entered it, be it under 17, 19 or 21. Because Flynn oversaw it all at intermediate level he's designed the environment and implemented it with dedicated coaches at that level.
The system allowed Flynn's strategy to flourish.
Newaddingtonwelsh is right to credit the Trust too. A lot of the training and support and development outside of squad call ups is done by the WFT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2013 16:22:47 GMT
It's not just finding them though. It's keeping them too. For instance we found Owen Hargreaves and Rhys Williams but couldn't keep either of them. So as productive as Flynn has been in unearthing Williams, Collison, Crofts, King, etc the key thing is that they stayed within the system after whatever point they entered it, be it under 17, 19 or 21. Because Flynn oversaw it all at intermediate level he's designed the environment and implemented it with dedicated coaches at that level. The system allowed Flynn's strategy to flourish. Newaddingtonwelsh is right to credit the Trust too. A lot of the training and support and development outside of squad call ups is done by the WFT Spot on Llannerch! |
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Post by scoop76 on Apr 26, 2013 20:46:26 GMT
I don't know whether everyone heard the news today, but Brian Flynn is suing the FAW for unfair dismissal. Case scheduled for 9th May.
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Post by llannerch on Apr 27, 2013 8:22:51 GMT
Messy
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Post by njdragon on Apr 27, 2013 9:43:13 GMT
any people 'in the know' care to comment on this?
'if people knew why his contract wasnt renewed they wouldnt see any blame with the faw or any of the management staff'
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Post by Tim P on Apr 27, 2013 12:44:29 GMT
Interesting. Hmmmm.....
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Post by flynnfan on Apr 27, 2013 18:54:25 GMT
Congratulations to Flynnie on getting Doncaster back up to the championship..What an incredible finish!
Mixed feelings on the unfair dimissal case. I thought his contract came to an end? So I don't see how he has a case? Having said that, I thought the same about the prosecution in the Ched Evans case. So what the fuck do I know.
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Post by saints19 on Apr 29, 2013 12:30:56 GMT
It would be better or all involved if Flynn just dropped the case. He has proven his point, he is a successful manager who has got Doncaster promoted. Why distract himself from preparing for the new season, and distract the FAW from preparations for our upcoming qualifiers, by dragging this up? Normally I would absolutely support someone taking their employer to task for unfair dismissal but Flynn is not a poor man, he has a presumably comfortable income from managing a relatively big club. He should just drop it and be the bigger man.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2013 13:00:46 GMT
I would like to know why he was dismissed though. The guy is hugely passionate about Wales, and worked miracles with our youth development.
He is clearly 'fucked off' to the point where he wants to take this further - where else would someone with a proven track record be told they are surplus to requirements? Was this further evidence of 'political and destructive games' as RV described it?
Where is the next Joniesta going to come from? If it wasn't for Flynn he would almost certainly be wearing 3 lions on his chest now.
It's fine as long as the new regime can deliver the same or better results and continue to recruit real quality - especially in dual qualified cases of Welsh/English heritage - does anyone know if this is continuing to happen behind the scenes?
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Post by flynnfan on May 10, 2013 20:28:29 GMT
Didn'T Saunders recommend that Flynn take charge when he left Donny for Wolves? So maybe now Flynn will recommend that Deano gets back the job at Donny??
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Post by llannerch on May 12, 2013 16:34:32 GMT
Didn'T Saunders recommend that Flynn take charge when he left Donny for Wolves? So maybe now Flynn will recommend that Deano gets back the job at Donny?? Stranger things have happened.... |
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Post by njdragon on Sept 10, 2013 21:06:48 GMT
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Post by toshfan on Sept 10, 2013 21:34:13 GMT
Who brought in that guy?
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Post by njdragon on Sept 10, 2013 21:39:02 GMT
tosh, so he should get all the credit yeh
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Post by biwmares on Aug 4, 2017 15:52:25 GMT
Should make a good Christmas present.
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Thanks dragonsoccer.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Aug 4, 2017 22:59:12 GMT
Should make interesting reading.
Will it be a small book, hopefully not.
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Post by cymroircarn on Aug 5, 2017 6:32:22 GMT
Should make interesting reading. Will it be a small book, hopefully not. Pocket sized but comes with a bang |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Aug 5, 2017 10:55:39 GMT
Great servant to Welsh football, despite being crapped on by the FAW more than once. Should be a great read.
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Post by toshfan on Nov 16, 2022 10:51:22 GMT
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