Brian Flynn

[andywales]

My only hope is that he plays better football and gets some good results!

[saints19]

I would have given (or would still give) Flynn the job for the rest of the campaign. Two games (especially a double-header so close together) isn't nearly enough time to decide whether he's the right option for us, and if he goes after that it will be rather harsh.

But at least it seems like he will get his chance, I'm happy about that.

[dewi712]

what flynn has done in wrexham and swansea and the under 21 s is brilliant.what he was as a player is superb, another hero,from era of yorath,tosh,james etc,
as long as the team gets behind him and respects him as its obvious the under 21 s have ,and as long as we give him time,

remember tosh s biggest downfall was he was earlier a media pundit,but his biggest dissadvantage was inheriting a team that had absentees ,retirees, and having to play inexperienced players,

this is still a problem!!,too many players have insufficient game time,some still young,inexperience at international level,absentees,

we need more camps in which we could gel together etc,
just remember not to expect too much too soon,give him a chance,

[Tim P]

Sept 10, 2010 19:40:39 GMT newaddingtonwelsh said:

confused.com? what has danny collins done wrong to call him a rat?

Is it because he plays for stoke city? a team mate of dirty ryan shawcross? or is it because footballers like him are pampered cry babies who have let our nation down

danny collins did an interview with another rat, lisa rogers, for sport wales on bbc2. he smirked his way through it and made it very clear that he didn't give a toss about playing for Wales.

[dewi712]

trendy, this is the problem we ve had ,especially tosh,,he s had arrogant wanna be super stars dissing the cause ,theyre not good enough to lace flynn/tosh/yorath boots.

[muaythai]

i can understand why players wouldnt wanna play under tosh but whoever was in charge id play for wales but thats me i love our country obviously others dont

[flynnfan]

Yeah- Toshack was given over 2 and a half campaigns and Flynn is only being given an initial 2 games. Even if we lose them both I'd still give Flynn the job- especially as Rambo and Collison will still be missing. I imagaine both would be key Flynn players (as they were for the u21s) I don't expect Flynn to perform miracles- it took him time to turn thing round at Wrexham, Swansea and with the U21s. His record suggest that if given time, he WILL turn things round. There's a lot of good will in Wales towards Flynn- I'd love to see the FAW back him to the hilt.

[flynnfan]

My main hope now is that the players will go into EVERY game at least BELIEVING they can win.

[flynnfan]

Oh, and I like your bananas prediction Trendy, because your correct prediction % has improved significantly in recent months!

[caradocevans]

The Flynn idea should be this: Pick up phone, dial number:

"Hello, Danny? It's Flynnie. Brian Flynn. New caretaker boss of Wales? F.L.Y.N.N. Any chance of playing left-back for us?"

[dewi712]

i would imagine the hierarchy have nt lifted their heads to see what flynn has done over the last few years,some did nt know we had under 21 s

anyway im sure their just being over cautious

flynn will get the rest of the campaign,rest assured.

[Deleted]

Looks like Evans and Saunders havent avoided the chop! ;D

news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/league_of_wales/8989540.stm

Hes asked David Williams and another guy involved in the youth set up to assist him for the two games. I like it already!

He will officially be announced as caretaker on monday, the FAW have stressed he is not a replacement for Toshack:

"The FAW insist they have not appointed a replacement for Toshack, whether on a part or full-time basis, as their chief executive Jonathan Ford is in Athens for a Uefa Congress meeting."

Great, we have urgent business on the domestic front and good old Fordy is off on a beano, no doubt to discuss goal line technology.

[llannerch]

More importantly what are Gabbidon and the rest tweeting on the matter?

[llannerch]

Sept 11, 2010 8:18:55 GMT dewi712 said:

what flynn has done in wrexham and swansea and the under 21 s is brilliant.

Hmmm, never at a level higher than League 1. Swans fans weren't particularly bothered when he left. Nor Wrexham for that matter. The revisionism that surrounds his club management career is odd.

[flynnfan]

I went to Wrexham games most regularly in the last few years of Flynns time. So yes, I remember plenty of chants of 'Flynn out!' although I never joined in because it always felt to me as though he was a vicitm of his own success. Look at where Wrexham were when he left and look at where we are now- That should tell you something. I guess that the more intelligent Swansea fans realise he was very important figure in stopping the rot there too. After all, who brought Roberto Martinez to the club in the first place? (as well as Alan Tate, Leon Britton, Lee Trundle etc)

[squatter1]

I think it's an insult to Flynn to be given the job as caretaker, if that's how it works out.

That means he gets massive pressure for the double header, and if he loses them both, he doesnt get the top job and we're back to square one. With a new manager, these next two matches could go either way, but you cant judge a manager on these two matches, that is absurd.

Putting him in as caretaker says: we arent sure about you and your ability to do the job. Whereas the message they should be sending out is: given what you've done for our U21s for the past five years, we are completely confident you can do the job, and here's a two year contract to prove it. Now go out and get the team attacking - and winning - again.

Flynn to be given full time job NOW!

[idiot]

yeah it has made me think that the faw might be looking elsewhere in the long term

unless it's temporary due to one of the glory boys being over in greece and not being able to sort the contract out? which would be shocking but not surprising

[saints19]

Gabbidon can keep his tweets in his backside, where they belong.

[Deleted]

I think it's a fair deal as long as should we do well in the next two games then he is either given more time or appointed full time.

The message being sent out from
The faw is that it really is only temporary and it will not be Flynn no matter what happens.

Let's be honest, under 21 football is NOT senior football so for me it's doubtful whether he does have the skills. I don't think he should be judged on the results- judge him on the number of players who turn up, their attitude on the pitch, our desire to attack and the potential (should we lose) to get results if he's given more time.

If we absolutely tank in both games like in Montenegro then I'm sorry flynny but it's got to be someone else.

It seems like they are currently looking for a successor come what may so it's not going to be Flynn what ever happens.

[saints19]

I'd have given it to Flynn for the remaining seven games of the campaign. Given that we allowed Toshack basically two full bites at the qualification cherry it would be unfair not to give Flynn at least one almost-full campaign.

After that we would be able to make a proper judgement on Flynn's performance based on team performances and results in a range of competitive and friendly matches. Two games in five days just isn't enough time to judge someone.

[flynnfan]

Toshack gets 2 and a half campaigns. Flynn gets 2 games. Very unfair, but better than nothing I suppose.

I'd give Flynn the job whatever happens in these 2 games, because he seems to me exactly the right person to take this young team forward. Especially when Ramsey and Collison are back.

[welsho]

It's a bad decision. Whether he's the best choice or not, Flynn's earned his chance and he can't be ditched after two games, even if they go badly. Another FAW **** up

[Bastion]

Anyone who thinks 2 games is enough time to judge him knows nothing about professional sport. The minimum should be to give him the campaign, personally I'd sign him up until 2014 because nobody has earned their chance or proved their worth like Brian Flynn. Yes his managerial career has been in the lower leagues and at U21 level but he's excelled at both, he can only beat what's in front of him.

The FAW will face a severe backlash if they don't appoint him and that could hit them in their pockets.

[Bastion]

Sept 11, 2010 22:42:05 GMT flynnfan said:

I went to Wrexham games most regularly in the last few years of Flynns time. So yes, I remember plenty of chants of 'Flynn out!' although I never joined in because it always felt to me as though he was a vicitm of his own success. Look at where Wrexham were when he left and look at where we are now- That should tell you something. I guess that the more intelligent Swansea fans realise he was very important figure in stopping the rot there too. After all, who brought Roberto Martinez to the club in the first place? (as well as Alan Tate, Leon Britton, Lee Trundle etc)

Absolutely right. People also forget that he had to lose some of his better players at Wrexham and if it wasn't for Flynn Swansea would have more than likely ended up in the conference. Short memories some people.

Wrexham, Swansea and Wales U21's were all poor when Flynn took charge of them and he improved them all. The U21 improvement has been nothing short of staggering.

[muaythai]

Flynn Confirmed as Caretaker, how do you think he will line us up in the games against Bulgaria and Switzerland and will we see a more attack minded type of play like the under 21s ?

[cilmeri]

I disagree. I'd like to see Flynn get it full time, but I'd also like it to be given full consideration by the FAW - let the job be advertised and give time for entries to be received and interviews to be undertaken. There wasn't enough time to do this before the Bulgaria game, therefore the best plan is to appoint a caretaker and then follow due process. Hopefully whatever the results in these 2 games it shouldn't have bearing (or not too much) on whether Flynn gets it full time or not.

[cilmeri]

I'd say almost certainly a flat back 4. Hasn't he played with 1 up front for the u21s with Rambo just behind? Will be interesting how he deals with Bellamy and what kind of role to give him - is Flynn flexible enough to go with 4-3-3 or an unbalanced 4-4-1-1 with Bellamy on the wing more than central, or will he want a flat 4 in midfield? And will he play to our strengths or try to counter the opposition?

[saints19]

Probably a 4-4-2, as he often played with the youngsters. I'm interested to see if any of the 'rebels' will be in Flynn's first squad.

[Deleted]

After the Montenegro fiasco I wouldn't think twice about bringing in Danny Collins for James Collins. I suspect it will be the usual names that tosh called up though, no real surprises. i am more interested in seeing what, if anything, Flynn gets out of them that tosh couldn't.

I hope we don't start making excuses for Flynn though- Bulgaria are in disarray and it's a highly winnable game for us. He's got his chance and I really hope he takes it.

[muaythai]

im hoping flyn calls giggs back up because giggs has stated he would play to help out our injury problems, say what you want about giggs but we cant afford to be missing a player of his quality whatever your view his on his loyalty to us. I also believe the fact we have england twice is another reason why giggs wants back in the international fold.