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Post by saints19 on Sept 10, 2010 12:28:56 GMT
Outrageous comments from Ferguson. Using threats like 'this could be your last season' to bully Giggs. Giggs should give Ferguson the middle finger and walk out, but sadly I don't see it happening.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2010 12:53:26 GMT
giggs has never shown wales any respect so i dont see why wales should show him any!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2010 13:04:46 GMT
Outrageous comments from Ferguson. Using threats like 'this could be your last season' to bully Giggs. Giggs should give Ferguson the middle finger and walk out, but sadly I don't see it happening. Why does Giggs never face the media himself though? Thats why I think he doesnt give a toss, because hes not even got the respect to turn the opportunity down himself, he sends Fergie out to tell everyone in disgustingly blunt terms that "its not going to happen". Giggs needs to grow a spine and start doing his own PR work. |
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Post by cilmeri on Sept 10, 2010 13:23:20 GMT
Love that - the thought of anyone being able to send fergie out to do their dirty work for them! You do realise that Fergie's the manager and Giggs is the player don't you?
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Post by georgetm1 on Sept 10, 2010 15:32:36 GMT
Ferguson is an absolute skirt wearing tit and Giggs has shown his own country so much disrespect over the years and shown how much of a chickenshit he is, he does'nt deserve to be anywhere near any Welsh team ever again. How can you even consider Giggs being a future manager when he is such a coward.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2010 17:09:58 GMT
Love that - the thought of anyone being able to send fergie out to do their dirty work for them! You do realise that Fergie's the manager and Giggs is the player don't you? So you have never seen a player in a press conference fielding questions from the media? Hardly a day goes by without Steven gerrard in front of a camera with a load of microphones shoved up his nose. Giggs is media shy, fair enough, but just for once in his career his words would carry more importance if he actually said them himself. Fergie has always been his mouthpiece, fair enough as a youth but it's about time he grew some balls and spoke to the media himself. |
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Post by Tim P on Sept 10, 2010 17:11:39 GMT
come on - ferguson is basically the guy's dad. i agree that it is probably time for giggs to step out from his shadow, but you have to give consideration to the unique relationaship they have.
giggs is very proud to be Welsh - and despite living in england for thirty odd years, still identifies himself as an out and out Welshman.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2010 18:15:38 GMT
I personally do not want Giggs back as a player, manager or bottle washer.
He has made his footballing life choices, choices which showed scant regard for the paying public of Welsh football.
Personally I think any mention of him being made manager is an insult to the fans who have scraped together many thousands of pounds over many years to travel here, there and everywhere only to get there and read of yet another Giggs withdrawel.
Coupled with that how does he make the call to any Welsh player who pulls out of a future squad and asks for a valid reason for thier withdrawel?
I can see the answer now
"If it was good enough for you boss then it's good enough for me" "click"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2010 19:54:03 GMT
I would not be surprised if Giggs was waiting to finish his MU career in another 2 year then think of going for the Wales job - let's face it - this Wales side is about 2/3 years away from really hitting the straps - I just hope Flynn makes himself indispensible - the head honcho - calling the shots when Giggs is thinking of muscling in.
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Post by andywales on Sept 10, 2010 20:41:07 GMT
I'd love to see him and Ramsey teaming up together! But can't see it happening.
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 10, 2010 21:40:56 GMT
i am totally stunned that giggs has let fergie ride roughshot over him and wales!! i just couldnt see it coming at all.
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Post by dewi712 on Sept 11, 2010 8:11:34 GMT
i can see what giggs might be looking at at man ure,that he may gain another league medal and break records and be a top flight earner for another year.
but he s always maintained he s dissapointed that he s never won or attended any finals with wales,sorry but take a good look at yourself, brilliant player ,love him to bits,but stop being fergies glove puppet,if he were ever to turn out for us again or coach he d better change his attitude ,big style.
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Post by muaythai on Sept 11, 2010 9:50:39 GMT
the reason I think giggs will come back is cos he fancies one more crack at the english simple as...
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 11, 2010 10:17:02 GMT
I may not always agree with what that Karen Brady says but she has it spot on about Ryan Giggs
RYAN GIGGS is identified as his successor as Wales manager by departing incumbent John Toshack. He might think so, I think it's tosh.
Giggs is under contract to Man U and has no experience, let alone of leading a nation he was reluctant to serve as a player.
The place to learn for even the most talented player is down among the jobbing class of the lower leagues. Giggs should talk to Roy Keane about that. Giggs can hardly know about the kind of club where the manager pleaded with his chairman for a physio.
The chairman asked 'What would he do in the three months from the end of the season to the start of a new one?' and then answered it with 'He can do the painting and decorating'.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 11, 2010 10:40:21 GMT
I'm too young to have seen Flynn as a player live, but I doubt he was anywhere near as talented as Giggs. The fact that he won more interntional caps though (66 to Giggs' 64) says it all about their respective commitment to their country.
Someone was on radio Wales the other day protesting the idea that Giggs should be anywhere near the managers job, considering his lack of commitment as an international player. Jason Mohammad was trying to defend Giggs, but the guy pretty much wiped the floor with him, using Beckhams 100 plus caps in a similar time frame to shame Giggs international appearance record. The example I prefer though is Jari Litmanen, because Finland have had a similar level of success over the years to us (ie- not much) Hasn't stopped Litmanen winning OVER TWICE the number of caps as Giggs though...
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Post by tai33stashon on Sept 12, 2010 16:14:24 GMT
at the end of the day should giggs have chosen to play for us and not the Tree Lions cos u coulnt blame him if he did with your backams gazzas and terries he could have gon to world Cups and european even tho i hate europe keep us british cups.
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Post by llannerch on Sept 12, 2010 17:57:48 GMT
at the end of the day should giggs have chosen to play for us and not the Tree Lions cos u coulnt blame him if he did with your backams gazzas and terries he could have gon to world Cups and european even tho i hate europe keep us british cups. 27 posts of ineptitude and counting...Giggs couldn't have played for England...yawn |
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 12, 2010 18:06:20 GMT
I think tai is talking about Seirra Leone, whose team are known as the Tree Lions. Seirra Leone is famous for its Tree Lions didn't you know? I'm still not sure Giggs qualified for Seirra Leone anyway tai, even though he was more qualified to play for them than England.
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Post by tai33stashon on Sept 12, 2010 18:52:57 GMT
lanerch wot a beaut you are giggs could of played for the 3 Lions he plyd for the schoolboy team and law of residents.
flynfan wot u on about anyway i meant the 3 lions you beaut.
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Post by cymroircarn on Sept 12, 2010 19:37:06 GMT
lanerch wot a beaut you are giggs could of played for the 3 Lions he plyd for the schoolboy team and law of residents. flynfan wot u on about anyway i meant the 3 lions you beaut. Did you ever go to school? |
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Post by muaythai on Sept 12, 2010 20:34:00 GMT
lanerch wot a beaut you are giggs could of played for the 3 Lions he plyd for the schoolboy team and law of residents. flynfan wot u on about anyway i meant the 3 lions you beaut. your wrong you doughnut, only reason giggs played for england school boys was that whatever country you live in and go to school at is the country you represent at school boy level, I COULD HAVE GONE OFF TO BRASIL AND PLAYED SCHOOL BOY FOOTIE ASLONG AS I WAS BEING SCHOOLED THERE, IT SURE DOESNT MEAN I AM BRASILIAN! The only way giggs could of ever played for england was through residency THE END! |
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Post by welshposh on Sept 12, 2010 21:07:00 GMT
Not to mention the fact that the home associations have had an agreement in place that they won't pursue players from each other based on residency so Giggs really wasn't going to play for England. The point is that he is Welsh and he was called up by the age of 17.
He won't be back playing for us, even though I think while we're without Ramsey we could do with his quality in the middle. The problem is that he didn't really demonstrate his obvious ability for years playing for Wales.
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Post by Tim P on Sept 12, 2010 21:12:48 GMT
it seems ludicrous to even bother stating this, but tai is excelling himself today.
giggs has never been eligible to play for england:
born in Wales,
two Welsh parents,
two Welsh grandparents,
two Sierra Leone grandparents
residency? the 5 year compulsorary schooling residency rule was not around then - and only came in a year ago.
that cleared things up tai?
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Post by idiot on Sept 13, 2010 0:25:39 GMT
it seems ludicrous to even bother stating this, but tai is excelling himself today. giggs has never been eligible to play for england: born in Wales, two Welsh parents, two Welsh grandparents, two Sierra Leone grandparents residency? the 5 year compulsorary schooling residency rule was not around then - and only came in a year ago. that cleared things up tai? maybe you should check tai's ip as he's obviously someone on a wind up |
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Post by welsho on Sept 13, 2010 0:26:23 GMT
lanerch wot a beaut you are giggs could of played for the 3 Lions he plyd for the schoolboy team and law of residents. flynfan wot u on about anyway i meant the 3 lions you beaut. Ha! Oh dear, wind up merchant or biggest muppet since Kermit, judging by his spelling possibly the latter |
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Post by muaythai on Sept 13, 2010 10:39:17 GMT
lanerch wot a beaut you are giggs could of played for the 3 Lions he plyd for the schoolboy team and law of residents. flynfan wot u on about anyway i meant the 3 lions you beaut. Ha! Oh dear, wind up merchant or biggest muppet since Kermit, judging by his spelling possibly the latter lmao i second that |
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Post by cilmeri on Sept 13, 2010 11:01:01 GMT
No tredy you're wrong.
It was only the one SL grandparent.
I wonder if Giggs would've had a better chance of playing at a world cup if he'd chosen Sierra Leone however.
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 13, 2010 14:02:12 GMT
Betrand Russell, RS Thomas, tai33stashon -So wonderful to see the great Welsh intellectual and philosophical tradition lives on.
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Post by saints19 on Sept 13, 2010 14:32:41 GMT
I re-iterate my previously stated view that these boards could do with an 'ignore' function.
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Post by raptor on Sept 13, 2010 16:48:51 GMT
No Giggs for me, either as a player or manager. Not enough passion I'm afraid, it's undisputeable despite what Harrison has said. Past it as a player.
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