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Post by alarch on Jul 12, 2013 13:22:30 GMT
Towards the bottom of this article it suggests that Laudrup is no longer actively looking for a backup to Rangel, and that he will give a chance to Jazz Richards. Great news for him and Wales. It's a bit of a shame that Swansea won't be signing Jack Hunt mind. Given that the ultimate accolade from the Swansea faithful is for a player to be greeted with "You Jack Bastard", how much greater a compliment would it have been to been acclaimed with "You Jack Hunt"?
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Post by Tim P on Jul 13, 2013 8:09:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 22:33:51 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Sept 25, 2014 8:16:40 GMT
He is nowhere near a permanent start at Swansea, even if Rangel gets injured it is doubtful he will start
He is 23 and has played about 50 games at club level which is nowhere near enough
As for keeping things simple isn't that what Gunter gets criticised for on here.
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Post by alarch on Sept 25, 2014 8:27:27 GMT
Given that Jazz Richards started ahead of Tiendalli (not even on the bench and no reports of injuries - also Richards on bench and Tiendalli not against Southampton) it's fair to assume that Richards has every chance of replacing Rangel if he gets injured.
Jazz Richards does the basics right - in terms of his tackling, his defensive discipline, and his distribution. Those stats I have posted before prove this beyond any doubt - especially in contrast with Gunter. It's hard to see what Gunter brings to the table other than likeability and a great work ethic. When it comes to the core qualities his stats just don't stack up.
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 25, 2014 8:27:45 GMT
He is nowhere near a permanent start at Swansea, even if Rangel gets injured it is doubtful he will start He is 23 and has played about 50 games at club level which is nowhere near enough As for keeping things simple isn't that what Gunter gets criticised for on here. There's playing it simple and then there's running backwards and passing it back to the goalie.
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Post by toshfan on Sept 25, 2014 8:38:13 GMT
He was first class against Belgium. One of the best RB performances I recall in a Welsh shirt. I remember mentioning Jazz to 'In Huw we Trust' at the London Welsh Centre last year and he was frustrated that Jazz had not kicked on further at the Liberty. He does have ability. The two starts he has had this season have received very positive reviews.
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Post by welshiron on Sept 25, 2014 9:01:59 GMT
2 starts in the league cup speaks volumes
Why does no Swansea manager trust him enough to start, when Rangel has been injured Tiendelli (a very limted player) has been picked ahead of him
6 season and about 50 games
Gunter has more welsh caps than that so must be doing something right (only 2 years older), the game is not just about stats.
Also, don't forget whilst Richards was playing well in Belgium, Gunter played brilliantly out of position at centre half.
Richards has to play games until then it's Gunter for me
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Post by toshfan on Sept 25, 2014 9:03:45 GMT
2 starts in the league cup speaks volumes Why does no Swansea manager trust him enough to start, when Rangel has been injured Tiendelli (a very limted player) has been picked ahead of him 6 season and about 50 games Gunter has more welsh caps than that so must be doing something right (only 2 years older), the game is not just about stats. Also, don't forget whilst Richards was playing well in Belgium, Gunter played brilliantly out of position at centre half. Richards has to play games until then it's Gunter for me I think Neil Taylor should be in the mix for RB too. Agree 100% with what you say about Gunter against Belgium. He was brilliant that night. One of his best games for Wales.
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Post by welshiron on Sept 25, 2014 9:15:52 GMT
I've not been impressed by Taylor when playing for Wales, but agree he is in the mix
However, I though Ben Davies has looked very nervous playing for Spurs and I would not be surprised if his confidence has taken a knock.
At present for me it is still Davies and Gunter for me, we need some consistency, I also think it should be Collins and Williams at the back
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Post by toshfan on Sept 25, 2014 9:17:09 GMT
I've not been impressed by Taylor when playing for Wales, but agree he is in the mix However, I though Ben Davies has looked very nervous playing for Spurs and I would not be surprised if his confidence has taken a knock. At present for me it is still Davies and Gunter for me, we need some consistency, I also think it should be Collins and Williams at the back Taylor was very good at RB against Macedonia.
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 25, 2014 10:57:40 GMT
2 starts in the league cup speaks volumes Why does no Swansea manager trust him enough to start, when Rangel has been injured Tiendelli (a very limted player) has been picked ahead of him 6 season and about 50 games Gunter has more welsh caps than that so must be doing something right (only 2 years older), the game is not just about stats. Also, don't forget whilst Richards was playing well in Belgium, Gunter played brilliantly out of position at centre half. Richards has to play games until then it's Gunter for me No competition really, he's very lucky to have that many caps. I'm not prepared to say Gunter is a good, or even our best right back because he has played the most. One good game at centre half when qualification was done and Belgium were playing in second gear does not mean I would ever want to see him there again.
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Post by welshiron on Sept 25, 2014 11:32:24 GMT
I agree with the post about not wanting to see him at centre half again, but it is that same game that see some people wanting Richards inclusion
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Sept 25, 2014 11:43:46 GMT
Class player was very good when at palace on loan.
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Post by welshiron on Sept 25, 2014 12:01:32 GMT
Why did they not get him back? Not as if you have a top class right back
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Post by robin1864 on Sept 25, 2014 13:20:43 GMT
What's happening with Henley these days?
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Post by caeboy on Sept 28, 2014 12:48:15 GMT
Jazz should get some game time and the chance to make the potion at Swansea his own with Rangel suspended after his red card at Sunderland.
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Post by toshfan on Sept 28, 2014 14:15:13 GMT
I think that Coleman should prioritise the Swansea vs Newcastle game next week. Up to 4 Welsh players on the pitch and checking out Jazz is crucial.
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Post by oberon on Sept 28, 2014 20:43:33 GMT
Rangel had two yellows so just a one game ban I think not sure how many yellows he has already accrued but it's up to Jazz. He had a very solid game v Everton last Tuesday and has proved in the past that he can step in and do a job, Belgium away and a very good performance v Arsenal in a cup replay in a purely backs to the wall effort from the Swans rear guard in which Jazz stood out.
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Post by CymruFach on Sept 28, 2014 22:06:43 GMT
I was at the Swansea v Everton game and did not feel that Jazz had stood out. Don't get me wrong I don't feel he did anything wrong but felt at times he was not up to the pace of the game, but that would be down to not having game time.
My overriding impression during the game was that I felt (unfortunately) that I couldn't see him at Swansea after this year.
He could do well somewhere I'm sure, but agree with Welshiron above that he is not, based on the Everton performance, (against a weakened team) not up to start in the Premier Leadue, (unfortunately, sorry).
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Post by welshiron on Sept 29, 2014 8:56:31 GMT
Hopefully he will get picked for the Newcastle game although that's not guaranteed as Tiendelli has often replaced Rangel when he is absent.
I do fear though even if he plays well Rangel will be straight back into the team
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Post by oberon on Sept 29, 2014 9:24:26 GMT
Llechid C I did not say he was the stand out player v Everton but was solid defensively, he was however the standout player v Arsenal in a cup replay against a very strong Arsenal side. You are right though he does need more game time which he will get against Newcastle as it seems he was preferred to Tiendalli for the Everton game and I have not heard of any injuries to Tiendalli. Welshiron is right in thinking that Rangel will be straight back in as the Swans always look better going forward with him in the side but don't write off Jazz just yet. I believe there is a Palace fan on here who may seen him play more than most of us and I wonder what his thoughts are.
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Post by richierich333 on Sept 29, 2014 15:16:18 GMT
Richards or Taylor over Gunter please. I've had enough of it!!!
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Post by alarch on Sept 29, 2014 15:36:46 GMT
Richards has much to prove in terms of his offensive capabilities. Until you shows he can contribute to offensive play he will struggle to claim a regular place in the Swansea team. But as far as Wales are concerned, in spite of his limitations, he's a better fit with what we need than Gunter. First and foremost we need a defender who can defend. Positionally, and in terms of tackling ability Richards is better than Gunter, in my opinion. He's also miles ahead of Gunter in terms of the assurance of his distribution - especially in tight spaces. In a game against Bosnia where we are likely to spend a lot of time on the back foot Richards would be the better option. Against Cyprus, Gunter's more expansive game could come into its own.
This is all theoretical of course - because we all know that Gunter will play. In fact I can't imagine a realistic scenario where Coleman wouldn't choose him. Depressing.
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Post by texan on Sept 29, 2014 17:22:32 GMT
In fact I can't imagine a realistic scenario where Coleman wouldn't choose him. Depressing. Gunter sells Coleman his old washing machine, floods Coleman's kitchen and destroys his new passport making him miss the flight to Belgium. In revenge Coleman puts him on the bench!
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Post by welshiron on Sept 29, 2014 18:20:18 GMT
One scenario could be another welsh player actually playing at right back in either the EPL or championship
Until then I believe Gunter with his additional experience should be playing.
Taylor is a possibility but most on here would slate him for playing him out of position
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Post by toshfan on Sept 29, 2014 22:27:30 GMT
Taylor is a possibility but most on here would slate him for playing him out of position I am not convinced about that. I think that he should be considered a strong contender for starting at RB. Was excellent against Macedonia.
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 29, 2014 23:02:47 GMT
What's the latest with Neal Eardley? Is he playing again?
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Post by welshiron on Sept 30, 2014 7:48:58 GMT
Wasn't it Taylor who gave away the penalty in Andorra which was mainly responsible for the difficult game we had.
I can only imagine if Gunter or Collins had made that mistake, when did Gunter do something as stupid as that?
This is the most important game for a long time and I see some people throwing in4 or 5 players with barely 10 caps between them.
We need experience especially against a cynical side like Bosnia, so for me Gunter and Collins have to play at the back, not Chester and Richards
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Post by welshiron on Sept 30, 2014 8:11:04 GMT
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