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Post by iantov on Dec 5, 2021 17:36:00 GMT
Would be incredible if Biesla is proven right! We criticise teams for Premiership managers not giving Welsh talent a chance but Biesla is the opposite so far: - Dan James top of his list. Has been OK but has not hot his straps yet - Tyler Roberts - done nothing before to vindicate his manager's faith against a fairly dismissive fan base but lets hope this run of form leads to something of substance, injects a permanent level of confidence / consistency. As we have stated he seems to have it all - just needs that final piece of the jigsaw to fit in place to make him an effective player! Biesla also apparently rated Wilson? How about Neco goes on loan to Leeds? Would fit their attaching style? I was thinking the same thing about Neco a few weeks ago. Leeds have struggled at LB and I don't think Junior Firpo is Premier League. Luke Ayling at RB has been injured so Neco could have covered in that role and he would definitely fit into Leeds' style. Tyler looked like he enjoyed his role today but DJ's performance was sub par again unfortunately
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 5, 2021 18:32:53 GMT
Unfortunatly Bamford is back and scored when he came on, so I think it will be back to being a number 10 moving forwards. Glad he got a goal tho
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 11, 2021 16:47:54 GMT
An assist for Tyler at the Bridge after starting the game up top. James & Tyler both with assists
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Post by quetzal on Dec 18, 2021 19:17:20 GMT
I’m not a fan
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Post by iot on Jan 2, 2022 15:03:13 GMT
I think he's played well in the first half today with some brilliant touches, pressing and lots of good work. But I suspect he'll get a lot of abuse after missing one chance he really should have scored, and then only managed tame efforts on a couple of other chances. It's just been more of the same from him. He has really good ability, there was one flicked pass that set up a chance which was probably the best piece of skill in the game, but he never inspires confidence in front of goal
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Post by iantov on Jan 2, 2022 16:23:28 GMT
I think he's played well in the first half today with some brilliant touches, pressing and lots of good work. But I suspect he'll get a lot of abuse after missing one chance he really should have scored, and then only managed tame efforts on a couple of other chances. It's just been more of the same from him. He has really good ability, there was one flicked pass that set up a chance which was probably the best piece of skill in the game, but he never inspires confidence in front of goal Went off injured about 15 mins into the second half
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jan 2, 2022 16:24:08 GMT
He's a number 10, not a striker. People need to stop thinking of him as a striker and I include Page in that
He's a fine 10 for his age, just gets talked down a lot because he gets played up front a lot and doesn't score goals
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Post by hooky on Jan 2, 2022 16:40:40 GMT
Why can't Roberts push on like James has!
James may not be deadly in front of goal but the last 2 years or so he has improved massively. He strikes the ball fiercely and sometimes demonstrates good composure.
Roberts always seems scared to miss. Really weird as if he was as bad in training as he is in matches in terms of finishing then he would never have reached the level he has. If he does not get his act together he will fall down the divisions - Biesla has given him a lot of opportunities and he simply has not repaid his faith from what I have seen.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Jan 2, 2022 17:02:50 GMT
I think he's played well in the first half today with some brilliant touches, pressing and lots of good work. But I suspect he'll get a lot of abuse after missing one chance he really should have scored, and then only managed tame efforts on a couple of other chances. It's just been more of the same from him. He has really good ability, there was one flicked pass that set up a chance which was probably the best piece of skill in the game, but he never inspires confidence in front of goal I agree. He was driving Leeds forward, getting the ball into attacking positions, making good runs and a constant threat but for me it's just not his position. He isn't a natural finisher in the slightest and isn't going to get goals, and it isn't helped when he's playing today without a natural finisher to play off of. I think he's more of a #8 than anything, and certainly not a number nine. It's a bit unfortunate as we obviously lack depth in that area but we shouldn't be forcing him into the position as a result.
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Post by insertname on Jan 2, 2022 17:31:28 GMT
He's a number 10, not a striker. People need to stop thinking of him as a striker and I include Page in that He's a fine 10 for his age, just gets talked down a lot because he gets played up front a lot and doesn't score goals I don’t rate him, but you’re right that he isn’t helped by the fact he is played as a striker whenever I see him and he just isn’t a bloody striker! Why do they do it? I feel like I live in a parallel dimension sometimes and that I’m just not seeing the real genius behind all his misses that his managers seem to see.
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Post by iot on Jan 2, 2022 18:37:37 GMT
I think people are missing that he's played 80% of his football for Leeds as a 10 or 8, so a couple of the comments seem a little wide of the mark to me. Also he's desperate to play as a 9, that's where he sees himself. The commentators mentioned it today and I've heard it several times before. I can't see him as a 9 either, but he's certainly not a natural 10
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Post by talyfan on Jan 3, 2022 9:38:18 GMT
I think people are missing that he's played 80% of his football for Leeds as a 10 or 8, so a couple of the comments seem a little wide of the mark to me. Also he's desperate to play as a 9, that's where he sees himself. The commentators mentioned it today and I've heard it several times before. I can't see him as a 9 either, but he's certainly not a natural 10 I've watched him a fair few times now all in different positions and to me he's not got a position or role nailed down. He's played as an #8, #9, #10 or even a wide player at times and if required he can do a job and play in those positions. I've seen and heard as well he sees himself as a striker but to me he really lacks that lethal cutting edge and instinct in the box to be a good one. He's really good at getting the ball from deep, carrying up the pitch, good playing in tight areas and an eye for intricate short passing in and around the opponent 18 yard box. I think you would need an elaborate and tailored made system for him to see him flourish but doing that wouldn't be worthwhile for the team as a whole. For Wales, a wide player in a front three I'd see Tyler being most effective. Not relying on him to get the goals but he can chip in, get in and around the box and be a decent creative outlet for us.
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Post by iantov on Jan 4, 2022 19:01:01 GMT
I think people are missing that he's played 80% of his football for Leeds as a 10 or 8, so a couple of the comments seem a little wide of the mark to me. Also he's desperate to play as a 9, that's where he sees himself. The commentators mentioned it today and I've heard it several times before. I can't see him as a 9 either, but he's certainly not a natural 10 I've watched him a fair few times now all in different positions and to me he's not got a position or role nailed down. He's played as an #8, #9, #10 or even a wide player at times and if required he can do a job and play in those positions. I've seen and heard as well he sees himself as a striker but to me he really lacks that lethal cutting edge and instinct in the box to be a good one. He's really good at getting the ball from deep, carrying up the pitch, good playing in tight areas and an eye for intricate short passing in and around the opponent 18 yard box. I think you would need an elaborate and tailored made system for him to see him flourish but doing that wouldn't be worthwhile for the team as a whole. For Wales, a wide player in a front three I'd see Tyler being most effective. Not relying on him to get the goals but he can chip in, get in and around the box and be a decent creative outlet for us. I've watched him a fair few times also and I agree with your assessment.
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Post by marsvolta on Mar 7, 2022 21:50:34 GMT
Out for 3 months after being injured the weekend.
Had a successful operation though apparently.
Get well soon Tyler
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Post by talyfan on Mar 7, 2022 21:58:56 GMT
All the best to him, hopefully he can bounce back. Shame he'll miss the games but we've got decent depth upfront at the moment thankfully
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Post by dai on Mar 7, 2022 22:50:07 GMT
Bloody hell, another man down! Best of luck to him, unlikely to play again this season so let's hope Leeds stay up (and for James).
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 24, 2022 14:53:24 GMT
Been linked with a loan move to Cardiff
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Post by saturn9 on Jun 24, 2022 15:40:50 GMT
Been linked with a loan move to Cardiff About his level now I suspect
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jun 24, 2022 16:07:39 GMT
Been linked with a loan move to Cardiff About his level now I suspect Agreed. Needs a run as a striker in a Championship Team imo. Had a good goalscoring record when he was played there in the Championship at Leeds. Still only 23. Plenty of time for improvement.
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Post by robin1864 on Jun 24, 2022 17:56:09 GMT
Has he really found a 'level'?
Cameo appearances are hardly the best indicator. Give him a run of games and see how he goes.
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Post by saturn9 on Jun 24, 2022 17:58:47 GMT
About his level now I suspect Agreed. Needs a run as a striker in a Championship Team imo. Had a good goalscoring record when he was played there in the Championship at Leeds. Still only 23. Plenty of time for improvement. Stats at Championship level??
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 24, 2022 20:55:20 GMT
He’s one of those players that flatters to deceive. Very little end product. Will probably end up at the likes of Leyton Orient /Newport County in a few seasons.
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Post by wirralwelsh on Jun 25, 2022 17:16:26 GMT
Agreed. Needs a run as a striker in a Championship Team imo. Had a good goalscoring record when he was played there in the Championship at Leeds. Still only 23. Plenty of time for improvement. He really didn't. Seven goals in over 50 appearances at that level, that's not going to nail you down a place as a striker even for a bottom of the table club.
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Post by hooky on Jun 25, 2022 17:21:18 GMT
Its really strange
Technically he is excellent
It almost seems like confidence or fear when he is in a dangerous position. I hope he can improve his end product as if he could then he would become an excellent option
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 25, 2022 22:55:34 GMT
I'll say it once, I'll say it a million times. He's an attacking no.8/no. 10 - not a striker! And for that matter, he's around the level of top 6 Championship team. If he gets a move to that level we'll see his best season
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Post by insertname on Jun 25, 2022 23:24:54 GMT
I'll say it once, I'll say it a million times. He's an attacking no.8/no. 10 - not a striker! And for that matter, he's around the level of top 6 Championship team. If he gets a move to that level we'll see his best season He was MOTM one time I saw him, playing as a play maker towards the end of Leeds promotion season in the championship. I’ve never seen him play like that for Wales but he has been played more as a striker by Page. Total waste of time that, it’s like Page is as desperate to get him the team as he is desperate to leave Lawrence out of it. Should only be played in his proper position going forward.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Jun 26, 2022 8:31:45 GMT
I'll say it once, I'll say it a million times. He's an attacking no.8/no. 10 - not a striker! And for that matter, he's around the level of top 6 Championship team. If he gets a move to that level we'll see his best season Fully agree mate.
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Post by quetzal on Jun 26, 2022 8:35:15 GMT
He won’t make the 26 man squad. Pissed on his chips at home to Estonia. Just had to tap a square ball to Joniesta and a goal. Went for glory unfortunately
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 26, 2022 9:07:24 GMT
I'll say it once, I'll say it a million times. He's an attacking no.8/no. 10 - not a striker! And for that matter, he's around the level of top 6 Championship team. If he gets a move to that level we'll see his best season He was MOTM one time I saw him, playing as a play maker towards the end of Leeds promotion season in the championship. I’ve never seen him play like that for Wales but he has been played more as a striker by Page. Total waste of time that, it’s like Page is as desperate to get him the team as he is desperate to leave Lawrence out of it. Should only be played in his proper position going forward. Yeah saw him play a few times in midfield for Leeds that season and he was great. I think he'd actually work really well in a 3-5-2 as one of the attacking midfielders
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Post by hooky on Jun 26, 2022 9:48:59 GMT
He is slightly different to our other attaching options and could be useful if properly utilised - don't think Page knows how to use him.
Would have a fit Brooks over him in a heartbeat of course but think it will be marginal either way for him.
Think there is a bit too much negativity around him on this board. He has been playing in a Premier league squad and committed to Wales at a very young age. He may not work out to be a consistently good player but lets not just single him out constantly in a negative way - he has not even been fit for months!
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