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Post by marsvolta on Jul 4, 2021 23:50:09 GMT
There are rumours Osian is joining Palace as Viera’s number 2 Would that be a good move on Roberts' part? You can see Vieira being sacked if it doesn't work, like de Boer. Then, Roberts will have left his job in Morocco for nothing. We’ll there may be an international job coming up after a certain court case next year that he may be interested in. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jul 5, 2021 21:59:50 GMT
Would that be a good move on Roberts' part? You can see Vieira being sacked if it doesn't work, like de Boer. Then, Roberts will have left his job in Morocco for nothing. We’ll there may be an international job coming up after a certain court case next year that he may be interested in. When Giggs goes I think it’ll be Thierry Henry as the next Wales manager. Former superstar, has links to the FAW, has a point to prove. |
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Post by welshrover on Jul 5, 2021 23:47:09 GMT
We’ll there may be an international job coming up after a certain court case next year that he may be interested in. When Giggs goes I think it’ll be Thierry Henry as the next Wales manager. Former superstar, has links to the FAW, has a point to prove. Won't Henry take the Belgium job, thought Bobby M was stepping down this year? |
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Post by jbt95 on Jul 6, 2021 16:38:13 GMT
When Giggs goes I think it’ll be Thierry Henry as the next Wales manager. Former superstar, has links to the FAW, has a point to prove. Won't Henry take the Belgium job, thought Bobby M was stepping down this year? Martinez won't be going anywhere for a long time. He is the Technical Director of the Belgian FA, not just their manager. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jul 7, 2021 11:31:51 GMT
Won't Henry take the Belgium job, thought Bobby M was stepping down this year? Martinez won't be going anywhere for a long time. He is the Technical Director of the Belgian FA, not just their manager. Depends if they’re happy with him I guess. They’ve done well to get to where they are but have nothing to show for it. Might be the question of does he help or hinder the squad. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jul 7, 2021 11:33:12 GMT
When Giggs goes I think it’ll be Thierry Henry as the next Wales manager. Former superstar, has links to the FAW, has a point to prove. Won't Henry take the Belgium job, thought Bobby M was stepping down this year? I thought he’d do well to get the Wales job. Legend in the game but his management record isn’t the best. |
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Post by gimli on Jul 22, 2021 9:40:41 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Jul 22, 2021 9:51:43 GMT
Get him back NOW
If not as a manager as firstcteam coach with a mandate to improve the Cymru Premier and their academies
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Post by jbt95 on Jul 22, 2021 11:56:15 GMT
Get him back NOW If not as a manager as firstcteam coach with a mandate to improve the Cymru Premier and their academies Thought he was joining Vieira at CPFC? |
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Post by welshiron on Jul 22, 2021 12:00:11 GMT
Get him back NOW If not as a manager as firstcteam coach with a mandate to improve the Cymru Premier and their academies Thought he was joining Vieira at CPFC? I hadn't heard that but not surprised. |
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Aug 1, 2021 10:51:03 GMT
Was on the touchline at Palace in their pre-season friendly against Reading yesterday, so pretty much confirmed that he'll be Vieira's number two.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 6, 2021 21:25:00 GMT
Seems to be enjoying his role at Palace and so he should:
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 6, 2021 21:35:11 GMT
Seems to be enjoying his role at Palace and so he should: Class guy. Great to see him doing well. |
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Post by georgetm1 on Dec 26, 2021 14:20:51 GMT
Viera out with covid so Osian is taking over the team vs Spurs.
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Post by welshrover on Dec 26, 2021 18:41:51 GMT
Viera out with covid so Osian is taking over the team vs Spurs. The bloke on BBC news has just called him Ocean Roberts!!!! Just been interviewed, seems to have developed an incredibly weird accent when talking in English of late. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Dec 27, 2021 23:32:05 GMT
Viera out with covid so Osian is taking over the team vs Spurs. The bloke on BBC news has just called him Ocean Roberts!!!! Just been interviewed, seems to have developed an incredibly weird accent when talking in English of late. Sounds like his usual self to me here www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4aCiS6GQjw&ab_channel=MrBeanyman |
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Post by georgetm1 on Dec 28, 2021 10:43:47 GMT
Definitely his normal accent.
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 21, 2022 20:32:22 GMT
Does anyone else find it weird that Osian Roberts is part of the management team at Crystal Palace, our lads are struggling to get much game time and there's no real interest in any of them from Palace?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2022 14:16:36 GMT
Palace are a club in the richest and biggest league in the world,if you are from Wales or the moon if you are not good enough that's it .
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Post by insertname on Jan 22, 2022 16:01:05 GMT
Does anyone else find it weird that Osian Roberts is part of the management team at Crystal Palace, our lads are struggling to get much game time and there's no real interest in any of them from Palace? Every time a Welsh bloke gets a job in the managerial set up of a team in the upper echelons of the English league this sort of thing comes up. At the end of the day the only responsibility any Welsh man in such a position has is to himself and if there are cheaper and better English lads available they will pursue them instead as their remit is to do their best for the club not the Welsh national team. Ramsey being linked makes sense because of Osian and he’s arguably above Palace’s level but that doesn’t mean we’ll see Palace pursuing Morrell or Kieffer. Imo, Swansea and Cardiff have more obligation to Wales than people in positions of influence like Osian. We should be looking to them to further the national team and to be fair Cardiff look like they are trying to do so at the moment with the youth players they are bringing through. Not to say Swansea aren’t, just it’s good to hear the likes of Colwill and Harris getting a chance. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 22, 2022 22:00:30 GMT
Palace are a club in the richest and biggest league in the world,if you are from Wales or the moon if you are not good enough that's it . So you don't think any of our lads are Premier League calibre? |
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 22, 2022 22:08:16 GMT
Does anyone else find it weird that Osian Roberts is part of the management team at Crystal Palace, our lads are struggling to get much game time and there's no real interest in any of them from Palace? Every time a Welsh bloke gets a job in the managerial set up of a team in the upper echelons of the English league this sort of thing comes up. At the end of the day the only responsibility any Welsh man in such a position has is to himself and if there are cheaper and better English lads available they will pursue them instead as their remit is to do their best for the club not the Welsh national team. Ramsey being linked makes sense because of Osian and he’s arguably above Palace’s level but that doesn’t mean we’ll see Palace pursuing Morrell or Kieffer. Imo, Swansea and Cardiff have more obligation to Wales than people in positions of influence like Osian. We should be looking to them to further the national team and to be fair Cardiff look like they are trying to do so at the moment with the youth players they are bringing through. Not to say Swansea aren’t, just it’s good to hear the likes of Colwill and Harris getting a chance. What I'm trying to get at is I, and possibly some think similar to me, think that our lads are quality but for whatever reasons aren't getting their chances. Osian has worked with some of these for 7/8 years. He knows them inside out, but it's seen as a better option to take a chance on an unknown than a player the assistant manager has had a hand in nurturing since they were young. |
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Post by insertname on Jan 22, 2022 22:25:37 GMT
Every time a Welsh bloke gets a job in the managerial set up of a team in the upper echelons of the English league this sort of thing comes up. At the end of the day the only responsibility any Welsh man in such a position has is to himself and if there are cheaper and better English lads available they will pursue them instead as their remit is to do their best for the club not the Welsh national team. Ramsey being linked makes sense because of Osian and he’s arguably above Palace’s level but that doesn’t mean we’ll see Palace pursuing Morrell or Kieffer. Imo, Swansea and Cardiff have more obligation to Wales than people in positions of influence like Osian. We should be looking to them to further the national team and to be fair Cardiff look like they are trying to do so at the moment with the youth players they are bringing through. Not to say Swansea aren’t, just it’s good to hear the likes of Colwill and Harris getting a chance. What I'm trying to get at is I, and possibly some think similar to me, think that our lads are quality but for whatever reasons aren't getting their chances. Osian has worked with some of these for 7/8 years. He knows them inside out, but it's seen as a better option to take a chance on an unknown than a player the assistant manager has had a hand in nurturing since they were young. Yeah but with respect the actual reality is that, contrary to the mood on here, Welsh players don’t seem to be particularly rated by club managers at the moment. Of course they will get talked up on here but when it comes to the people who actually assess them on a daily basis we’ve found ourselves in a position where loads are now squad players at best. If Osian isn’t spear heading a Welsh recruitment drive I guess that says something about where Wales is at the moment in terms of the quality of it’s player base given he has more of an intimate knowledge than most about who’s out there and coming through, he’s undoubtedly still got a network of contacts in Welsh circles etc. I’ve maintained for a while that we’ll actually look back with a lot of respect for Giggs and Page in future years because we’ll be aware by then that they had a player base to pick from that wasn’t really a vintage crop. We’re sort of coming off the back of a golden generation and it’s pretty impressive we’ve been able to achieve nations league promotion, World Cup play off, Euros etc because at club level few of our players are ripping up trees or being signed for mega millions. In fact when you look at all the top clubs who are producing English talent it makes me a bit envious and disappointed that amongst the likes of Foden, that other striker Man City have got, Nketiah, etc there aren’t any Welsh lads coming through and creating the same sort of buzz. England are going to have a serious team in a few years full of players who are playing for the best teams in Europe. It sucks but I guess it was bound to happen at some point in my lifetime |
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Post by garynysmon on Jan 23, 2022 1:03:45 GMT
Does anyone else find it weird that Osian Roberts is part of the management team at Crystal Palace, our lads are struggling to get much game time and there's no real interest in any of them from Palace? Every time a Welsh bloke gets a job in the managerial set up of a team in the upper echelons of the English league this sort of thing comes up. At the end of the day the only responsibility any Welsh man in such a position has is to himself and if there are cheaper and better English lads available they will pursue them instead as their remit is to do their best for the club not the Welsh national team. Ramsey being linked makes sense because of Osian and he’s arguably above Palace’s level but that doesn’t mean we’ll see Palace pursuing Morrell or Kieffer. Imo, Swansea and Cardiff have more obligation to Wales than people in positions of influence like Osian. We should be looking to them to further the national team and to be fair Cardiff look like they are trying to do so at the moment with the youth players they are bringing through. Not to say Swansea aren’t, just it’s good to hear the likes of Colwill and Harris getting a chance. Warnock's Cardiff City couldn't have been less interested in Welsh players. I've always argued that its better in terms of the national side if Cardiff/Swansea are skint and pretty much forced to use Welsh academy products rather than revert to type and buy in. |
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Post by iot on Jan 23, 2022 11:36:11 GMT
Every time a Welsh bloke gets a job in the managerial set up of a team in the upper echelons of the English league this sort of thing comes up. At the end of the day the only responsibility any Welsh man in such a position has is to himself and if there are cheaper and better English lads available they will pursue them instead as their remit is to do their best for the club not the Welsh national team. Ramsey being linked makes sense because of Osian and he’s arguably above Palace’s level but that doesn’t mean we’ll see Palace pursuing Morrell or Kieffer. Imo, Swansea and Cardiff have more obligation to Wales than people in positions of influence like Osian. We should be looking to them to further the national team and to be fair Cardiff look like they are trying to do so at the moment with the youth players they are bringing through. Not to say Swansea aren’t, just it’s good to hear the likes of Colwill and Harris getting a chance. Warnock's Cardiff City couldn't have been less interested in Welsh players. I've always argued that its better in terms of the national side if Cardiff/Swansea are skint and pretty much forced to use Welsh academy products rather than revert to type and buy in. Not necessarily, if you think about Swansea's rise to the premier league, I doubt Ash and perhaps even Joe Allen would have gone on to have the careers they had without it + they invested loads in their academy system which went on to develop james, rodon and roberts. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 25, 2022 22:36:55 GMT
What I'm trying to get at is I, and possibly some think similar to me, think that our lads are quality but for whatever reasons aren't getting their chances. Osian has worked with some of these for 7/8 years. He knows them inside out, but it's seen as a better option to take a chance on an unknown than a player the assistant manager has had a hand in nurturing since they were young. Yeah but with respect the actual reality is that, contrary to the mood on here, Welsh players don’t seem to be particularly rated by club managers at the moment. Of course they will get talked up on here but when it comes to the people who actually assess them on a daily basis we’ve found ourselves in a position where loads are now squad players at best. If Osian isn’t spear heading a Welsh recruitment drive I guess that says something about where Wales is at the moment in terms of the quality of it’s player base given he has more of an intimate knowledge than most about who’s out there and coming through, he’s undoubtedly still got a network of contacts in Welsh circles etc. I’ve maintained for a while that we’ll actually look back with a lot of respect for Giggs and Page in future years because we’ll be aware by then that they had a player base to pick from that wasn’t really a vintage crop. We’re sort of coming off the back of a golden generation and it’s pretty impressive we’ve been able to achieve nations league promotion, World Cup play off, Euros etc because at club level few of our players are ripping up trees or being signed for mega millions. In fact when you look at all the top clubs who are producing English talent it makes me a bit envious and disappointed that amongst the likes of Foden, that other striker Man City have got, Nketiah, etc there aren’t any Welsh lads coming through and creating the same sort of buzz. England are going to have a serious team in a few years full of players who are playing for the best teams in Europe. It sucks but I guess it was bound to happen at some point in my lifetime It's certainly made me rethink some of the players. Moore definitely could play mid table Premier League, Roberts is definitely Premier League starter worthy hopefully he'll settle in to Burnley now and they survive, Neco should be starting even on loan. I guess I was also kind of hoping Osian would know how to bring through a random one like Smith, Matondo, Levitt or something. Like he'd be ahead of the game with them and know exactly how to fit them in to do a job for a team like Palace. |
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Post by texan on Jan 26, 2022 9:11:37 GMT
It's certainly made me rethink some of the players. Moore definitely could play mid table Premier League, Roberts is definitely Premier League starter worthy hopefully he'll settle in to Burnley now and they survive, Neco should be starting even on loan. I guess I was also kind of hoping Osian would know how to bring through a random one like Smith, Matondo, Levitt or something. Like he'd be ahead of the game with them and know exactly how to fit them in to do a job for a team like Palace. I'm sure OR has Vieira's ear, but ultimately it's Vieira's call who they go after, it's not Osian's to make. Also, Palace aren't afraid of pulling the trigger on their manager if things aren't going their way, they've proven this (until Hodgson they were going through a couple of managers a year). New backroom staff usually need some credit in the bank before they start experimenting and bringing 'projects' in, and they've only been there half a season. Let them bed-in and hopefully have a satisfactory year then (hopefully) come the summer we may see some movement on the Welsh player front in through the gates at Palace. |
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Post by morg on Dec 10, 2022 15:39:34 GMT
Maroc more than holding their own again at the moment. Given that Osian was technical director there until July 21, can much/any of their current success be attributed to his influence? Not seen him mentioned in that regard?
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 10, 2022 17:19:51 GMT
He was there for two years until summer 2021 so must have had some influence in them qualifying at least.
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Post by insertname on Dec 10, 2022 22:24:08 GMT
Maroc more than holding their own again at the moment. Given that Osian was technical director there until July 21, can much/any of their current success be attributed to his influence? Not seen him mentioned in that regard? Did he develop a program based around defending for your life? If he did then he should be credited with the inspiration. |
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