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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 27, 2017 15:43:31 GMT
With there being no real rush to appoint a permanent manager, I wouldn't be surprised if Roberts gets offered the job temporarily until the Euro qualifiers proper start in March 2019. The FAW should give him a chance to see how he finds the role for two friendly windows and the Nations League games. If he isn't comfortable in the hotseat and prefers life behind the scenes, then he can step down for someone else to take over.
That way he preserves his strong relationship with the FAW, allowing him to continue his coaching work if the main job doesn't work out.
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Post by pendragon on Nov 27, 2017 15:46:07 GMT
With there being no real rush to appoint a permanent manager, I wouldn't be surprised if Roberts gets offered the job temporarily until the Euro qualifiers proper start in March 2019. The FAW should give him a chance to see how he finds the role for two friendly windows and the Nations League games. If he isn't comfortable in the hotseat and prefers life behind the scenes, then he can step down for someone else to take over. That way he preserves the strong relationship with the FAW and allows him to continue his coaching work if the main job doesn't work out. Plus, we all get to see how he fares for at least a couple of games.. |
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Post by manulike on Nov 27, 2017 15:52:42 GMT
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Post by pendragon on Nov 27, 2017 17:42:15 GMT
Hmmm.. I didn't get that sense from the article but I agree with a lot of what this article states. Osian does indeed deserve consideration however I would be anxious about his appointment - mainly because he does such a fantastic job in his current role and dare I say it, because like Coleman, he is such a nice guy. He knows what needs doing to get the team back on track, but like Coleman, would he be too loyal to the "old guard"? On the plus side, the existing team and the youngsters know him and would really respect him. I think most of the fans would too. I do believe he is a smart tactician and the article probably isn't far off the mark in insinuating that he is the brains and power behind some of the team's more successful strategies. |
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Post by ae15 on Nov 27, 2017 18:15:58 GMT
Maybe we can get the Dutch Ray/Osian combination we wanted in 2011!
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 27, 2017 18:46:01 GMT
I think we have a lot more to lose if Osian becomes manager due to his current job and how well he does it, if he fails we'll lose a lot more than a manager
I think the players may need a fresh voice with fresh ideas as we try to move away from the old guard
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Post by gwernybwch on Nov 27, 2017 18:56:18 GMT
I bet Abbandonato went into panic mode when he heard that Osian was interested.
"Quick, quick think. He is probably the best candidate for the job, but only Giggs as Manager will sell enough papers / get enough clicks to keep me in a job. I know, I'll write an article and call him a 'compromise candidate', gives him feint praise, but start the article with a comment about Giggs then shoehorning Giggs' name into the article a few other times".
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Post by saints19 on Nov 27, 2017 19:13:04 GMT
I bet Abbandonato went into panic mode when he heard that Osian was interested. "Quick, quick think. He is probably the best candidate for the job, but only Giggs as Manager will sell enough papers / get enough clicks to keep me in a job. I know, I'll write an article and call him a 'compromise candidate', gives him feint praise, but start the article with a comment about Giggs then shoehorning Giggs' name into the article a few other times". Even Abbandonato has been putting hints in his articles that Giggs needs to go for it now or he'll never get it. Hint: please apply so that I can write lots of fawning articles about you, Ryan. |
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 27, 2017 21:05:34 GMT
Maybe we can get the Dutch Ray/Osian combination we wanted in 2011! I liked Ray at the time but I don't think he's right for Wales now. Too outspoken. I'd rather not see Wales run on Twitter. |
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Post by conwy10 on Nov 27, 2017 21:09:13 GMT
I think we have a lot more to lose if Osian becomes manager due to his current job and how well he does it, if he fails we'll lose a lot more than a manager I think the players may need a fresh voice with fresh ideas as we try to move away from the old guard I've got to see it from his perspective, he's given Wales so much we can't keep him from a role he wants and deserves because it'd weaken the role he's in now. It's a punishment for doing well. Let's find the next Osian Roberts and let Osian get what he deserves. |
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Post by greenscorpio1967 on Nov 27, 2017 23:39:27 GMT
I've said before, failing Pulis or another similarly experienced manager, Roberts on a temporary or permanent basis would be my choice. Now we know he's interested whereas Pulis has been silent and no other names are being linked, I'd say that makes him the new favourite. there was a small rush of money on him yesterday { including a small bet by me } but currently 3rd fav.. i did think there would be more interset ..someone who is a fixture at the FA and is probably privy to some if not all whats being said about possible candidates decides to enter the race must either feel he is as good or better than the others,or has been encouraged from within to put himself forward. idiots on oddschecker put Iwan Roberts by mistake |
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Post by greenscorpio1967 on Nov 27, 2017 23:57:39 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Dec 3, 2017 21:58:12 GMT
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Post by saints19 on Dec 4, 2017 0:28:42 GMT
Top man. Utter respect for him.
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Post by iot on Dec 4, 2017 16:59:51 GMT
Damn, that makes it far less likely he'll get the job. It comes across as though he may know the job isn't his, and he wants to make clear he's still happy to stay on as no. 2 + technical director.
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Post by pendragon on Dec 4, 2017 17:11:11 GMT
Damn, that makes it far less likely he'll get the job. It comes across as though he may know the job isn't his, and he wants to make clear he's still happy to stay on as no. 2 + technical director. Those were my thoughts exactly.. 😐 I will sort of feel bad for him if he doesn't get it, irrespective of whether I think he should. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 4, 2018 14:54:17 GMT
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Post by superunknown on Jan 4, 2018 22:14:18 GMT
Sounds fairly idealistic but if he was given the role, I'd be offering him the chance to go back to his former role should the worst happen and he doesn't work out as manager. Whether he'd want to stay on after going through any Roberts out bollocks that may occur is another story but he's someone we can't afford to lose.
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Post by dai on Jan 12, 2018 12:34:31 GMT
Did Coleman try and take Roberts with him to Sunderland would anyone know?
Obviously he loves being in the Welsh setup, so doubt he'd be interested in other vacancies. But if he is that good, why didn't Coleman tempt him away? A lot more money for example.
I'm not convinced on having Roberts as manager. If he was indeed the brains behind the Coleman campaign, then I wouldn't want him as manager, as a lot of tactics were dreadful during the WC campaign.
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 12, 2018 12:51:56 GMT
Did Coleman try and take Roberts with him to Sunderland would anyone know? Obviously he loves being in the Welsh setup, so doubt he'd be interested in other vacancies. But if he is that good, why didn't Coleman tempt him away? A lot more money for example. I'm not convinced on having Roberts as manager. If he was indeed the brains behind the Coleman campaign, then I wouldn't want him as manager, as a lot of tactics were dreadful during the WC campaign. He picks up 2 wages as the assistant manager and technical director with the Welsh Football Trust, he gets probably the most freedom he could ever wish for in those roles, why would he want to give one of those roles up to work under anyone and potentially be out of work in a few months? Obviously lots want to move up the ladder, work for more prestigious clubs, make a name for yourself but that's not everyone's ambition. He's reached the top of Welsh football, nurtures the youngsters coming through the Welsh set up, guides all the upcoming coaches including legends of the game. I'd prefer that to 6 months at Sunderland. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 15, 2018 11:15:45 GMT
Ok so looks like he's not getting the main job so its imperative he stays and continues the good work in his current roles.
The FAW wouldn't screw that up would they?
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Post by 1gwaunview on Jan 15, 2018 11:35:05 GMT
Ok so looks like he's not getting the main job so its imperative he stays and continues the good work in his current roles. The FAW wouldn't screw that up would they? Don't hold your breath. I genuinely feel sorry for him. A missed opportunity by the FAW |
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Post by dai on Jan 15, 2018 12:35:51 GMT
I don't understand the clamour for having Osian as manager. Yes he's done a hell of a lot for the FAW. But it was a big failing in not qualifying for next years WC, and he was part of that failing. Why reward failure?
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Post by saints19 on Jan 15, 2018 13:16:52 GMT
I don't understand the clamour for having Osian as manager. Yes he's done a hell of a lot for the FAW. But it was a big failing in not qualifying for next years WC, and he was part of that failing. Why reward failure? The "failure" in finishing 3rd because we had a piss poor ref who let the Irish foul Joe Allen and get away with it looks like a barnstorming success compared to the distant 4th and 5th places in Speed's and Coleman's first campaigns. IMO, that's what we are probably looking at with Giggs. Love to be proven wrong though. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 15, 2018 14:08:50 GMT
Giggs just confirmed 'Osh' will be staying on as Technical Director. Assistant Manager role tbc.
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Post by welwyn on Jan 15, 2018 14:13:41 GMT
Giggs just confirmed 'Osh' will be staying on as Technical Director. Assistant Manager role tbc. He confirmed he would be staying on as Technical Director and 'they will be having discussions'. That is all, nothing about the assistants job. |
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Post by CrackityJones on Jan 15, 2018 14:14:31 GMT
Giggs just confirmed 'Osh' will be staying on as Technical Director. Assistant Manager role tbc. He confirmed he would be staying on as Technical Director and 'they will be having discussions'. That is all, nothing about the assistants job. ...yeah hence assistant manger role tbc. |
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Post by zenith on Jan 15, 2018 14:17:58 GMT
I mentioned in another thread that Scholes is rumoured to be assistant
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Post by alarch on Jan 15, 2018 14:24:09 GMT
So much for not employing Englishmen...
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Post by holmesdaleultra on Jan 15, 2018 14:24:48 GMT
He needs to replace Symons
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