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Post by yanto on Nov 17, 2021 18:01:14 GMT
Am I tripping? Scotland being hyped on here....really?!!! As some state Denmark fielded a significantly weakened team. Even the Jock pundits believe the hype i heard them before the game saying they had done the hard work ffs!!
Personally think we will be fine in the semi, but worried about whoever we play in the second game due to the short turn around. This window has been the exception rather than the rule.
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Post by rioonamazy on Nov 17, 2021 18:20:09 GMT
HI Guys. I think the real issue here is that we play 24/25 at home. On 28/29 (4 days) we could be away. Scrambling for Annual leave / flights etc.
What if its Russia. You'll need a visa ASAP whether its temp footy one or not. Chances are whoever has russia won't have many if any away fans.
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Post by welshowl on Nov 17, 2021 18:31:40 GMT
One thing worth remembering is that Russia can’t draw Ukraine so from the outset (according to the presenter on TV last night) we already have more chance of drawing Ukraine than anyone else. Again Ukraine were very poor in the Euros but they have had some good results recently, beat Bosnia away in the last round of fixtures, but then Bosnia seem to be blowing hot and cold lately so it might not be as good a result as it looks on paper. Interesting to look at the Ukrainian results in the group phase. Every home game finished 1-1, but away form much better - drew in France, won in Finland and Bosnia. Wonder why they played better away from home. Poland only lost 3-2 to England over both meetings. The two to avoid for me.
Turkey are very unpredictable. North Macedonia scored at least 2 goals in every away game - including in that shock win in Germany. Austrian away form looks unimpressive (but as quetzal said, did they give up and rely on NL second chance?). Czechs we know most about.
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 17, 2021 18:47:11 GMT
Am I tripping? Scotland being hyped on here....really?!!! As some state Denmark fielded a significantly weakened team. Even the Jock pundits believe the hype i heard them before the game saying they had done the hard work ffs!! Personally think we will be fine in the semi, but worried about whoever we play in the second game due to the short turn around. This window has been the exception rather than the rule. I'd rather not play them for the Britishness of the fixture. |
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 17, 2021 18:57:05 GMT
My opinion is - - Avoid Poland in the semi - Great if we get a home potential final draw - Ideally a path to play the Russia or Sweden semi tie winners - Really important we avoid Portugal or Italy away, in a potential final. - I don't fancy playing Scotland. Too much hassle, history from '77 and '85. If we lost, it would be in our faces all next winter that they qualified. Scotland's opponents in the semis will be interesting. Result against a disinterested Denmark at aside, last 2 home results 3-2 v Israel with a 94th minute winner and 1-0 v Moldova. Not sure about North Macedonia and Austria but other 4 could give the Scots a nervy time at Hampden. They've never played Turkey apparently.On quite a few yellow cards too which could be a factor. Pat Nevin for one is as nervous as hell about that.. The same could be said about us, 3-2 last minute winner away to Belarus and 0-0 at home to Estonia! |
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Post by welshowl on Nov 17, 2021 18:57:13 GMT
HI Guys. I think the real issue here is that we play 24/25 at home. On 28/29 (4 days) we could be away. Scrambling for Annual leave / flights etc. What if its Russia. You'll need a visa ASAP whether its temp footy one or not. Chances are whoever has russia won't have many if any away fans. We will know on Friday of next week both who we play at home in the semi final, BUT ALSO the two teams who we could play in the final (and whether that's home or away). If one of those two are Rusia then it gives us a few months to arrange (if ready to take the risk of cost expense if it's not Russia vs Wales in the path final). |
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Post by morg on Nov 17, 2021 19:23:43 GMT
Scotland's opponents in the semis will be interesting. Result against a disinterested Denmark at aside, last 2 home results 3-2 v Israel with a 94th minute winner and 1-0 v Moldova. Not sure about North Macedonia and Austria but other 4 could give the Scots a nervy time at Hampden. They've never played Turkey apparently.On quite a few yellow cards too which could be a factor. Pat Nevin for one is as nervous as hell about that.. The same could be said about us, 3-2 last minute winner away to Belarus and 0-0 at home to Estonia! Obviously... but they seem to be a lot more confident about their play off prospects than us... Just think their semi could well be a struggle.. |
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 17, 2021 19:38:46 GMT
HI Guys. I think the real issue here is that we play 24/25 at home. On 28/29 (4 days) we could be away. Scrambling for Annual leave / flights etc. What if its Russia. You'll need a visa ASAP whether its temp footy one or not. Chances are whoever has russia won't have many if any away fans. I think all the ties are now Thursday 24th and Tuesday 29th. Seems sources have changed to this. |
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Post by Albert on Nov 17, 2021 19:46:07 GMT
HI Guys. I think the real issue here is that we play 24/25 at home. On 28/29 (4 days) we could be away. Scrambling for Annual leave / flights etc. What if its Russia. You'll need a visa ASAP whether its temp footy one or not. Chances are whoever has russia won't have many if any away fans. I think all the ties are now Thursday 24th and Tuesday 29th. Seems sources have changed to this. We'll find out on Friday week where our final takes place if we get there, isn't that the reason both semi and final are announced on same day so people can sort things out just incase they're going |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 17, 2021 20:46:12 GMT
HI Guys. I think the real issue here is that we play 24/25 at home. On 28/29 (4 days) we could be away. Scrambling for Annual leave / flights etc. What if its Russia. You'll need a visa ASAP whether its temp footy one or not. Chances are whoever has russia won't have many if any away fans. We will know on Friday of next week both who we play at home in the semi final, BUT ALSO the two teams who we could play in the final (and whether that's home or away). If one of those two are Rusia then it gives us a few months to arrange (if ready to take the risk of cost expense if it's not Russia vs Wales in the path final). Would love Russia in the final, we owe them for 2004. Hope that would be at home, but equally the away day would be class and a big allocation 1st game I just want anyone that isn't Poland |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Nov 17, 2021 20:47:29 GMT
It would be much better if they played the finals at neutral grounds. You'd at least have certainty over the the arrangements even if you were taking a bit of a punt on getting there.
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Post by dai on Nov 17, 2021 21:21:54 GMT
So just to clarify, they will be deciding which winner of the semi-final hosts the final?
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Post by CymruFach on Nov 17, 2021 21:41:47 GMT
So just to clarify, they will be deciding which winner of the semi-final hosts the final? Yes, It will be winners of sf 1 v sf 2 etc, and then a draw to decide if winners of sf 1 or 2 will be home., |
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Post by dai on Nov 17, 2021 21:54:52 GMT
So just to clarify, they will be deciding which winner of the semi-final hosts the final? Yes, It will be winners of sf 1 v sf 2 etc, and then a draw to decide if winners of sf 1 or 2 will be home., Okedoke, ta. At least that gives people some heads up for planning etc. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Nov 18, 2021 3:31:53 GMT
Not to be negative but there does seem to be an inevitability that we're going to be drawn against Italy or Portugal in the finals, should we get there, probably away. It would be astonishing if those two weren't kept apart in the draw.
I'm also concerned about drawing a team in the semi-final that's going to come to Cardiff and park the bus. The last thing I want us to go through here is a penalty shootout, but again I've got a sneaky feeling it's going to happen.
It's always the same story with draws for major tournaments. We revel in being seeded so high, there's excitement and speculation over what nice groups we could potentially get, swiftly followed by despair as the harsh reality kicks in that we never get those "ideal" draws that we all want.
We better cross our fingers the home/away lottery for the final tie goes in our favour, that will likely be absolutely key.
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Post by welshrover on Nov 18, 2021 7:29:13 GMT
Not to be negative but there does seem to be an inevitability that we're going to be drawn against Italy or Portugal in the finals, should we get there, probably away. It would be astonishing if those two weren't kept apart in the draw. I'm also concerned about drawing a team in the semi-final that's going to come to Cardiff and park the bus. The last thing I want us to go through here is a penalty shootout, but again I've got a sneaky feeling it's going to happen. It's always the same story with draws for major tournaments. We revel in being seeded so high, there's excitement and speculation over what nice groups we could potentially get, swiftly followed by despair as the harsh reality kicks in that we never get those "ideal" draws that we all want. We better cross our fingers the home/away lottery for the final tie goes in our favour, that will likely be absolutely key. Mr.Picton, I noticed during the commentary on S4c they said that the chap who played Wali Tomos died recently. |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Nov 18, 2021 10:43:34 GMT
Not to be negative but there does seem to be an inevitability that we're going to be drawn against Italy or Portugal in the finals, should we get there, probably away. It would be astonishing if those two weren't kept apart in the draw. I'm also concerned about drawing a team in the semi-final that's going to come to Cardiff and park the bus. The last thing I want us to go through here is a penalty shootout, but again I've got a sneaky feeling it's going to happen. It's always the same story with draws for major tournaments. We revel in being seeded so high, there's excitement and speculation over what nice groups we could potentially get, swiftly followed by despair as the harsh reality kicks in that we never get those "ideal" draws that we all want. We better cross our fingers the home/away lottery for the final tie goes in our favour, that will likely be absolutely key. Mr.Picton, I noticed during the commentary on S4c they said that the chap who played Wali Tomos died recently. Yep. Newyddion trist iawn. Nice tribute broadcast on Heno www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuTJIUI0igs |
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Nov 18, 2021 11:43:11 GMT
Mei Jones, the late lamented actor who played Wali, was actually himself a great footballer in his youth.
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Nov 18, 2021 11:50:12 GMT
On the subject of "who do we prefer to play at home in the play-off S/F?", surely it's got to be North Macedonia?
Were we to beat them, or whoever, in the S/F, I have a feeling in my bones that the play-off Final could be at home be against Portugal! A chance for payback re: 2016!!
I don't know if it was just a made-up story or not, but I seem to remember someone saying that Bale and Ronaldo were spotted together strolling down the high street in Whitchurch ahead of one of Real Madrid's games in Cardiff a few years back!
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Post by rossettred on Nov 18, 2021 13:29:15 GMT
On the subject of "who do we prefer to play at home in the play-off S/F?", surely it's got to be North Macedonia? Were we to beat them, or whoever, in the S/F, I have a feeling in my bones that the play-off Final could be at home be against Portugal! A chance for payback re: 2016!! I don't know if it was just a made-up story or not, but I seem to remember someone saying that Bale and Ronaldo were spotted together strolling down the high street in Whitchurch ahead of one of Real Madrid's games in Cardiff a few years back! Yes has to be North Macedonia November FIFA rankings not out yet .. but using the current rankings: 23. Poland 26. Ukraine 31. Czech Rep 32. Austria 39. Turkey 75. North Macedonia I know the rankings are not everything but are a better gauge then they used to be …. and North Macedonia the stand out draw ! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 18, 2021 14:39:19 GMT
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Post by rioonamazy on Nov 18, 2021 15:03:55 GMT
i have to be honest im quite wary of N.Mac. They qualifed for Euro 2020 and held their own. they beat Germany in these qualifiers and have come second again to possibly qualify. They may just be on the cusp of something, whereas austria are on the demise.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 18, 2021 16:38:46 GMT
i have to be honest im quite wary of N.Mac. They qualifed for Euro 2020 and held their own. they beat Germany in these qualifiers and have come second again to possibly qualify. They may just be on the cusp of something, whereas austria are on the demise. I think all teams that have got into the playoffs are no pushovers, however, North Macedonia are probably the best draw in terms of number of their players that are regular in the top 5 leagues. They are undoubtedly an organised squad on the rise though We should not underestimate them, but they do probably pose less danger to us than other sides. The danger men are Alioski (12 international goals, Bardhi (experienced attacking mid at Levante), Elmas (young exciting attacking mid at Napoli). They also have their keeper playing in the Spanish top flight, and their captain Ristovski who is a solid full back |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 18, 2021 16:50:55 GMT
Across the WC campaign so far...
Goals;
Bale x3
Ramsey x3
James x2
Moore x2
Wilson
Neco
Davies
Roberts
Assists;
Bale x3
Wilson x3
James x3
Davies
Ramsey
Davies
Ampadu
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Post by quetzal on Nov 18, 2021 17:30:02 GMT
I’ve done two mock draws with paper and hat. First time Czech R and Italy at home if we go through. 2nd time Ukraine and Russia away. So hard to qualify
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 18, 2021 17:34:16 GMT
i have to be honest im quite wary of N.Mac. They qualifed for Euro 2020 and held their own. they beat Germany in these qualifiers and have come second again to possibly qualify. They may just be on the cusp of something, whereas austria are on the demise. I think all teams that have got into the playoffs are no pushovers, however, North Macedonia are probably the best draw in terms of number of their players that are regular in the top 5 leagues. They are undoubtedly an organised squad on the rise though We should not underestimate them, but they do probably pose less danger to us than other sides. The danger men are Alioski (12 international goals, Bardhi (experienced attacking mid at Levante), Elmas (young exciting attacking mid at Napoli). They also have their keeper playing in the Spanish top flight, and their captain Ristovski who is a solid full back Elmas is suspended North Macedonia will be the one everyone wants, I'd be happy with Austria, Turkey or the Czechs though |
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Post by iot on Nov 18, 2021 18:34:41 GMT
Austria still have Alaba, who is a brilliant player, and helps them to control games. I thought they played us off the park in both games in the WC18 campaign. On the balance of play, I think they deserved to win both matches, god knows how we got 4pts from them. I guess they may be lacking up front?
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Post by insertname on Nov 18, 2021 18:49:38 GMT
Austria still have Alaba, who is a brilliant player, and helps them to control games. I thought they played us off the park in both games in the WC18 campaign. On the balance of play, I think they deserved to win both matches, god knows how we got 4pts from them. I guess they may be lacking up front? That’s not how I remember the first game, we lead twice and really it was only Arnautovic that got them a draw, I recall he was unplayable to the point he had a personal vendetta against us, take him out of their team and they would have been half as good. The return fixture was rather like the Czech home game, we had to throw the kitchen sink at them and so they were able to create plenty of chances and in the end it was somewhat fortunate that we came out on top. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 18, 2021 19:47:34 GMT
I’ve done two mock draws with paper and hat. First time Czech R and Italy at home if we go through. 2nd time Ukraine and Russia away. So hard to qualify Would bite your hand off for that |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 18, 2021 19:49:45 GMT
Austria still have Alaba, who is a brilliant player, and helps them to control games. I thought they played us off the park in both games in the WC18 campaign. On the balance of play, I think they deserved to win both matches, god knows how we got 4pts from them. I guess they may be lacking up front? Alaba has moved to CB now though with Real Madrid, so perhaps less of a threat up the pitch |
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