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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 29, 2020 9:02:34 GMT
Thought as much. But surely there must some unturned stones out there still.....James Chester, Moore etc. I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! Its how we found Ash isn't it? "Oh, he has a Welsh surname" Tom Davies is a Scouser with the surname Davies, there's got to be some Welsh in there somewhere surely? Can we just claim Merseyside as Welsh anyway? I'm sure they won't mind
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Post by iot on Sept 29, 2020 9:40:25 GMT
I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! Its how we found Ash isn't it? "Oh, he has a Welsh surname" Tom Davies is a Scouser with the surname Davies, there's got to be some Welsh in there somewhere surely? Can we just claim Merseyside as Welsh anyway? I'm sure they won't mind We've all heard the story about Ash haven't we? Brian Flynn was scouting another Welsh youngster who was playing against Ash when he was at Stockport. Flynn thought Ash played well and, with a surname like that, checked it out. Turns out he doesn't qualify for us on his father's side, but through a complete coincidence he does on his mother's side who's marital name wasn't particularly Welsh. I'm sure that's the story, some of the facts might have gone awry!
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Post by dai on Sept 29, 2020 9:50:55 GMT
Will Hughes was another one which turned out not to be. He himself suggested he could play for Wales, but it was his great grandparent who was Welsh.
It's a shame because an extra 3-4 players like Hughes, Davies, Bowen, Watkins etc would make a considerable difference to our squad quality.
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Post by dragonsoccer on Sept 29, 2020 10:02:06 GMT
Its how we found Ash isn't it? "Oh, he has a Welsh surname" Tom Davies is a Scouser with the surname Davies, there's got to be some Welsh in there somewhere surely? Can we just claim Merseyside as Welsh anyway? I'm sure they won't mind We've all heard the story about Ash haven't we? Brian Flynn was scouting another Welsh youngster who was playing against Ash when he was at Stockport. Flynn thought Ash played well and, with a surname like that, checked it out. Turns out he doesn't qualify for us on his father's side, but through a complete coincidence he does on his mother's side who's marital name wasn't particularly Welsh. I'm sure that's the story, some of the facts might have gone awry!
off the top of my head... Timeline from what I can remember is.... Confirmed and told in October 2007 www.dragonsoccer.co.uk/players/eligible.htm - Ashley Williams was eligible for Wales and (checks made) etc. I'm sure Flynn was at Stockport looking at Hennessey (went 12 games clean sheets???) /Williams in November / December 2007 (so he would have known about Ash beforehand) - called up in March and the rest is history....
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Post by erasedcitizen on Sept 29, 2020 10:08:10 GMT
I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! Its how we found Ash isn't it? "Oh, he has a Welsh surname" Tom Davies is a Scouser with the surname Davies, there's got to be some Welsh in there somewhere surely? Can we just claim Merseyside as Welsh anyway? I'm sure they won't mind We provide their water so surely that's enough?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 29, 2020 10:09:22 GMT
I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! I think Brandon Williams does qualify for us Why's that?
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Post by dragonsoccer on Sept 29, 2020 10:14:25 GMT
Thought as much. But surely there must some unturned stones out there still.....James Chester, Moore etc. I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! as far as i know all been checked - so no links
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 29, 2020 10:22:31 GMT
I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! as far as i know all been checked - so no links Good to know! Thanks for confirming!
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Post by bale-droed on Sept 29, 2020 10:26:26 GMT
I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! I think Brandon Williams does qualify for us The speculation begins!
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Post by bale-droed on Sept 29, 2020 10:30:46 GMT
Thought as much. But surely there must some unturned stones out there still.....James Chester, Moore etc. I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! Kanu Da Silva Ampadu Nsiala Matondo Not always a Welsh surname Look at Chester his link is on his Mum side. If they come from a married home a Welsh surname can only give 50% of an eligibility clue
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Post by llan123 on Sept 29, 2020 11:25:14 GMT
If you did some digging into Jarrod Bowens family tree you would end up in Wales. There are bound to be players out there that qualify for us via grandparents that we don't know about. The onus is on the player to find out where their grandparents were born to see what's possible for them internationally.. Going by surname if I was a player everyone would think I was Irish but having done my family tree the first ancestor baring my name to come from Ireland to these shores was prior to 1841!
I did read somewhere that Steven Naismiths father was Welsh, he would have done a job for us, at least spared us from some of the dross we had up front around 2010.
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Post by bale-droed on Sept 29, 2020 11:28:53 GMT
If you did some digging into Jarrod Bowens family tree you would end up in Wales. There are bound to be players out there that qualify for us via grandparents that we don't know about. The onus is on the player to find out where their grandparents were born to see what's possible for them internationally.. Going by surname if I was a player everyone would think I was Irish but having done my family tree the first ancestor baring my name to come from Ireland to these shores was prior to 1841! I did read somewhere that Steven Naismiths father was Welsh, he would have done a job for us, at least spared us from some of the dross we had up front around 2010. His Scottish grandfather was in the army so hid Dad was somehow born in North Wales as his grandad was stationed there before he then moved back to Scotland. The incredible thing about that story is Flynn contacted the player to tell him and Steven had no idea
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 29, 2020 12:53:17 GMT
I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! Kanu Da Silva Ampadu Nsiala Matondo Not always a Welsh surname Look at Chester his link is on his Mum side. If they come from a married home a Welsh surname can only give 50% of an eligibility clue Of course, just that it's a good place to start. To be honest, I don't know how you'd go about finding others unless they come forward themselves. As we know I'm sure the FAW have their secrets and their ways of finding these things out
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 29, 2020 13:05:19 GMT
I think it would be unlikely that there are ones we are unaware of who are also good enough to get in our current squad. Purely based on their names, with no other basis for speculation here's some players it's fun to speculate about; Alex Pritchard - he'd be unlikely to get in our squad, although I suppose he'd be good enough to be on the fringes for now Tom Davies - been mentioned before and I think there was no answer either way - worth a check though as he'd definitely be good enough for our midfield & actually would be quite an asset I think Ollie Watkins - born in Torquay relatively close to the Celtic nation of Cornwall. Surname Watkins...I know it's a reach but any chance of a grandparent perhaps? Brandon Williams - probably been mentioned before but did we ever hear anything about this? Again would be good enough for the squad if eligible Kyle Edwards - West Brom forward, the new Hal? All I could think of for now! Speculate away! Kanu Da Silva Ampadu Nsiala Matondo Not always a Welsh surname Look at Chester his link is on his Mum side. If they come from a married home a Welsh surname can only give 50% of an eligibility clue To be fair, Matondo wasn't "found" in the style the others were, he grew up in Cardiff
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Post by cadno on Sept 29, 2020 13:10:53 GMT
I think Brandon Williams does qualify for us Why's that? edit: My mistake... I asked DS a while ago and I thought he believed there could be a link...I must've interpreted the message incorrectly! You'd have thought if there was a Welsh link then Giggs would've known by now with his connections to Man Utd
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Post by dragonsoccer on Sept 29, 2020 13:21:24 GMT
edit: My mistake... I asked DS a while ago and I thought he believed there could be a link...I must've interpreted the message incorrectly! You'd have thought if there was a Welsh link then Giggs would've known by now with his connections to Man Utd Brandon Williams was checked by sources prior to Feb 2020 and I was told "No links" - I cannot remember telling anyone "he believed there could be a link" - stand corrected if I did
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Post by insertname on Sept 29, 2020 13:51:15 GMT
If you did some digging into Jarrod Bowens family tree you would end up in Wales. There are bound to be players out there that qualify for us via grandparents that we don't know about. The onus is on the player to find out where their grandparents were born to see what's possible for them internationally.. Going by surname if I was a player everyone would think I was Irish but having done my family tree the first ancestor baring my name to come from Ireland to these shores was prior to 1841! I did read somewhere that Steven Naismiths father was Welsh, he would have done a job for us, at least spared us from some of the dross we had up front around 2010. His Scottish grandfather was in the army so hid Dad was somehow born in North Wales as his grandad was stationed there before he then moved back to Scotland. The incredible thing about that story is Flynn contacted the player to tell him and Steven had no idea A timely reminder perhaps of the tireless work Flynn did for us trying to expand the player base. He seemed to have left no stone unturned.
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Post by llan123 on Sept 29, 2020 18:25:30 GMT
What's the story with how Freddy Eastwood was eligible? Wasn't his grandmother born in Llanelli? I know he comes from a traveller background, was she merely passing through when she was born?
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Post by cadno on Sept 29, 2020 20:52:55 GMT
edit: My mistake... I asked DS a while ago and I thought he believed there could be a link...I must've interpreted the message incorrectly! You'd have thought if there was a Welsh link then Giggs would've known by now with his connections to Man Utd Brandon Williams was checked by sources prior to Feb 2020 and I was told "No links" - I cannot remember telling anyone "he believed there could be a link" - stand corrected if I did Think I must have misenterpreted that message, or it was all a dream!! my bad!!
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Post by dai on Sept 29, 2020 21:09:44 GMT
Brandon Williams was checked by sources prior to Feb 2020 and I was told "No links" - I cannot remember telling anyone "he believed there could be a link" - stand corrected if I did Think I must have misenterpreted that message, or it was all a dream!! my bad!! Be 'ti di bod yn smoco ychan?!
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Post by cadno on Sept 29, 2020 21:18:26 GMT
Think I must have misenterpreted that message, or it was all a dream!! my bad!! Be 'ti di bod yn smoco ychan?! O ni'n meddwl bod old Holborn Owain yn tasto'n od!!! Nawyt!
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Post by dai on Sept 29, 2020 21:19:15 GMT
Be 'ti di bod yn smoco ychan?! O ni'n meddwl bod old Holborn Owain yn tasto'n od!!! Nawyt! Old Holborn? F*ck 'em.
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