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Post by chislenko on Jan 15, 2018 18:39:34 GMT
Buy himself a map of Europe so he can see where all the places he couldn't be arsed going are.
Mind you he probably went to them all with Man Utd.
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Post by marsvolta on Jan 15, 2018 19:10:24 GMT
I swear I'm not going to be responsible for my actions towards the next person on a football forum,radio phone-in,newspaper comments section,Twitter,Facebook or whatever who hilariously asks who will be in charge for the friendlies and joke about Giggs brothers wife.
They all seem to genuinely be under the impression that they're the first people to say it.
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Jan 15, 2018 19:17:06 GMT
Post by pendragon on Jan 15, 2018 19:17:06 GMT
11. Learn the words to ALL the Barry Horns tunes! š Might be best to try the anthem first.. Fair point..
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Jan 15, 2018 19:20:46 GMT
Post by gwernybwch on Jan 15, 2018 19:20:46 GMT
He was far from my first choice, but is here now and I'll support the team regardless of who is the Manager (although I will have to review that support if he just brings in the Salford cronies) Yeah that's the main reason I wont be 100% behind him yet, he needs to prove his commitment first. One way of doing that will be to get out and meet the Welsh public, grass roots football, LoW, all levels of the men and women's game and look like he actually wants to be there. Coleman was excellent at this, time will tell if Giggs has the heart for it. I'm not sure that even if Giggs wanted to do it, that Mr. Ford would be encouraging it. We're in a whole new world of media where you can get a "message" across to thousands of supporters via the various social media outlets, just with a quick interview. I don't think that Mr. Ford would want him in the bear pit of a Tonypandy club house on a wet Thursday in February. On a slight tangent; it seems those hardcore fans that were against Giggs will support the team regardless, but what of those Giggs fans (who seemed to be a lot of fairweather fans), I wonder whether his appointment will change anything in them? Buy a tournament ticket? Go to away games? Or just head back to their armchairs when there is a whiff of a bad run of results.
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Jan 15, 2018 19:22:42 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 15, 2018 19:22:42 GMT
I thought his press conference was the most passionate Iāve ever seen him. The only nagging doubts I continue to have is his commitment (āthis is a great opportunity for meā could have been āthis is an honour for meā) also the continuatuon of Osian. The fact that Giggs states Osh would be staying on as Technical Director is Management speak for me he will no longer be assistant. Hopefully Iām proved wrong. Tbf i don't think he could say much about Osian as he said it had happened very quickly and the chance to speak to anyone was difficult. Iām sure that is the case, like I said I hope Iām wrong :-)
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Jan 15, 2018 19:24:18 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 15, 2018 19:24:18 GMT
I thought his press conference was the most passionate Iāve ever seen him. The only nagging doubts I continue to have is his commitment (āthis is a great opportunity for meā could have been āthis is an honour for meā) also the continuatuon of Osian. The fact that Giggs states Osh would be staying on as Technical Director is Management speak for me he will no longer be assistant. Hopefully Iām proved wrong. I thought his comment about the Basque game was brilliant. He'll have a decent publicist though. Yes it was fair play. I wish people would move on from the friendly thing though. How many friendlies you played does not make you a better manager. Some of those criticising him are talking of boycotting games. How will that help things?!
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Jan 15, 2018 19:33:54 GMT
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Post by sleepy on Jan 15, 2018 19:33:54 GMT
m.youtube.com/watch?v=OOl4fse1xHMGiggs first game for Wales, 86 min sub. Scroll to 4:57. More importantly who puts in the suicidal cross/back pass on 0:56 for Germany's 2nd? Is it Mark Bowen? Or Gavin Maguire perhaps?
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Jan 15, 2018 19:46:34 GMT
Post by pendragon on Jan 15, 2018 19:46:34 GMT
Anyone else notice the slip of the tongue in the press conference - where he talked about the next "two to four years", which he subsequently covered up by talking about taking Wales to a World Cup finals. But to be honest, if he gets us to the Euros finals before moving on that's no big deal as far as I'm concerned - as long as he doesn't leave us mid-campaign. My other big fear, aside from his lack of experience, is that he'll take a Premier League job as soon as he is offered one. It might not happen for 12 months now he has taken this job, but I'll be very surprised if he is with us for longer than two years. Logically speaking, international football is a lot less dynamic than the domestic front, where major tournaments take place every two years as opposed to every season. We won't be at the World Cup and we won't start playing competitively until the Euro Nations League in September. The Euro qualifiers proper won't kick off until 2019 and there will be the playoffs and the tournament in 2020. Ergo, with the miniscule amount of games he will have to showcase his managerial "talent", I don't see him having the time to make that much of an impression in the next two years, let alone the next twelve months, so I can't see Manchester United calling anytime soon. Perhaps if we make another Euros (or even another semi!), things might change, although I imagine the likes of Manchester United will still require a longer experience period than two years against the likes of Georgia to base a decision as to his Managerial potential in top flight football. Beyond then, who knows. If he fails, he might be out on his ear. If he succeeds, he might be off, unless it is his ambition to get Wales to their first World Cup since 1958. If he managed to do so, his standing as a Manager could be unassailable.
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Jan 15, 2018 19:48:23 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jan 15, 2018 19:48:23 GMT
I thought his comment about the Basque game was brilliant. He'll have a decent publicist though. Yes it was fair play. I wish people would move on from the friendly thing though. How many friendlies you played does not make you a better manager. Some of those criticising him are talking of boycotting games. How will that help things?! Together stronger is going out the window. I do hope these 'fans' boycott actually. They sound a toxic bunch, that we don't need following our cause. We're not England.
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Post by rushy on Jan 15, 2018 19:57:26 GMT
Pretty sure it was Maguire, thanks for reminding .
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Jan 15, 2018 19:58:19 GMT
Post by cadno on Jan 15, 2018 19:58:19 GMT
Remember how much a lot of fans absolutely hated Coleman for about 2 years? Bizzarly, it took until the Euros before fans really started to sing his name. We were shit for the first two years of Coleman. That's what we can look forward to now if we go down the Giggs/Bellamy route. Bale and Ramsey's peak years wasted. Absolute disgrace. He should never had taken some of the abuse aimed towards him, a lot of it came from inter-club rivalry.
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Jan 15, 2018 19:59:27 GMT
Post by cadno on Jan 15, 2018 19:59:27 GMT
Remember how much a lot of fans absolutely hated Coleman for about 2 years? Bizzarly, it took until the Euros before fans really started to sing his name. To be fair anyone who only beats Andorra 2-1 in the last 10 minutes is fair game for criticism, especially with a fully fit Gareth Bale. He dug deep though and turned things around. Ye but not the abuse he had
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Jan 15, 2018 19:59:55 GMT
Post by pendragon on Jan 15, 2018 19:59:55 GMT
To be honest, I'd rather they boycotted than set up noisy sections in the crowd chanting, "Giggs out" and the like during games.
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Jan 15, 2018 20:13:00 GMT
Post by wallet71 on Jan 15, 2018 20:13:00 GMT
Interesting to hear Gordon Strachan,s view on Craig Bellamy on Talk Sport this evening, said he was a pain to manage, but has taken to coaching really well, with a clear and structured plan on what heās doing. Also said that Giggs must have given a really good interview to get the job ahead of him.
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Jan 15, 2018 20:15:25 GMT
Post by pendragon on Jan 15, 2018 20:15:25 GMT
It was a very close run thing between the two apparently..
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Jan 15, 2018 20:23:50 GMT
Post by 1gwaunview on Jan 15, 2018 20:23:50 GMT
Pretty sure it was Maguire, thanks for reminding . It was Gavin Maguire, what an idiot.
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Post by conwy10 on Jan 15, 2018 20:27:15 GMT
To be fair anyone who only beats Andorra 2-1 in the last 10 minutes is fair game for criticism, especially with a fully fit Gareth Bale. He dug deep though and turned things around. Ye but not the abuse he had Did he have abuse? I thought a few people just questioned his future
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Jan 15, 2018 20:39:13 GMT
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Post by sleepy on Jan 15, 2018 20:39:13 GMT
Pretty sure it was Maguire, thanks for reminding . Sorry about that.
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Jan 15, 2018 20:47:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 20:47:24 GMT
If Phil Neville comes in as a coach I think thast might be it for me. I could probably cope with Scholes or Gary Neville but not steptoe Phil Phil is due to manage England ladies.
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Post by dai on Jan 15, 2018 20:50:38 GMT
Bit underwhelmed but not surprised by the appointment. I was in the Coleman out camp for a good year when he took charge, so I'm thinking it's better to give someone a chance.
His personal past makes it difficult to warm to him at the moment, but I was very impressed by his press conference. Thought he came across very well to be fair.
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Jan 15, 2018 20:52:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 20:52:50 GMT
I watched it over a lazy pizza earlier and thought the same.
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Jan 15, 2018 21:19:26 GMT
Post by cadno on Jan 15, 2018 21:19:26 GMT
Ye but not the abuse he had Did he have abuse? I thought a few people just questioned his future Yes he did
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Jan 15, 2018 21:25:43 GMT
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Post by cymroircarn on Jan 15, 2018 21:25:43 GMT
To be honest, I'd rather they boycotted than set up noisy sections in the crowd chanting, "Giggs out" and the like during games. Seen some suggest a Giggs out flag!?!
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Post by bale-droed on Jan 15, 2018 21:28:21 GMT
I got a positive and it could prove bigger than it seems. He does like Tom Lawrence and this appointment will do his confidence good.
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Jan 15, 2018 21:31:28 GMT
Post by joseywales37 on Jan 15, 2018 21:31:28 GMT
To be honest, I'd rather they boycotted than set up noisy sections in the crowd chanting, "Giggs out" and the like during games. Seen some suggest a Giggs out flag!?! Now that would be embarrassing, hope these people understand that not everybody who paying their money to be there are anti Giggs. Very childish and no good for any one if that happens.
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Jan 15, 2018 21:46:13 GMT
Post by cadno on Jan 15, 2018 21:46:13 GMT
Giggs will want us to attack and score more goals, which is good.
BUT
When we have injuries/suspensions will he get us to perform and grind out results?
In other words, will he get that extra 10% out of players, and will he have a plan B?
There's a lot of pressure on us to reach Euro 2020, and rightly so with the group of players we have and the qualifying format that's in place.
Cammonn!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 21:54:42 GMT
If they canāt support everyone representing Wales throughout the match then they need to keep away. Weāre a small nation and 100% togetherness is imperative for success.
Analysis on what happens on the pitch can take place afterwards. However, if theyāve made up their minds already then I doubt itāll be fair and balanced...
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Jan 15, 2018 22:17:47 GMT
Post by gwernybwch on Jan 15, 2018 22:17:47 GMT
If they canāt support everyone representing Wales throughout the match then they need to keep away. Weāre a small nation and 100% togetherness is imperative for success. Analysis on what happens on the pitch can take place afterwards. However, if theyāve made up their minds already then I doubt itāll be fair and balanced... You better be telling them Manic Street Preachers that. If it wasn't a concerted effort by the supporters, Bobby Gould would have hung on to the bitter end of his contract and dragged Welsh football even further into the mire.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2018 22:24:20 GMT
I think heāll do well.
He wins things.
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Jan 15, 2018 22:31:28 GMT
Post by rushlegend on Jan 15, 2018 22:31:28 GMT
To be honest, I'd rather they boycotted than set up noisy sections in the crowd chanting, "Giggs out" and the like during games.
And these would probably also be the fans who missed "friendlies" during the 1990's with echoes around empty stadiums!!!! - who are having a go at Giggs for missing them to avoid serious injuries - they are the biggest morons not our new legend of a manager!!!
BTW - The late great John Charles missed a lot of friendlies in the 50's but because it was before our time it never gets mentioned.
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