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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 5, 2020 19:13:31 GMT
We've beaten Hungary and Azerbaijan, and drew with Croatia... let's see how we do this summer, I would love to see Neco do a job like Jazz or Gunter have over the years against the likes of Bosnia, Belgium, Germany etc. Has Neco played under pressure of the magnitude of a major tournament yet? No, how many first team appearances does he have? 5? Starting him in the euros would be a huge risk, say what you like about Gunter, he's a good defender, and playing Full back for Wales in a major tournament, without any prior experience, would be a different task than playing a few cup games for a Liverpool side that has most of the possession. I believe Neco has played against Arsenal, where they conceded 5 goals, Shrewsbury twice, A very weak Everton,and Chelsea, where they lost and conceded 2 goals. And apparently that CV puts him in a better place than Chris Gunter to start in the Euros, he has a lot of potential, but come on! I'd also argue that if Adam Matthews or Jazz started for Liverpool against Shrewsbury and a poor Everton, they would look impressive offensively, the fact is, we dont actually know how Neco will do in a different team, against the best international opposition. The friendlies will give us more of an idea though, I suppose. *A full strength Everton (he marked a Brazilian international out of the game), and a strong Chelsea side. |
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Post by quetzal on Mar 5, 2020 19:35:03 GMT
Neco was poor at Shrewsbury. I don’t know. I think i’d nervous as hell if he started in Baku
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Post by biwmares on Mar 5, 2020 20:13:05 GMT
The only way to find out about Neco's readiness for International football is to start him in the upcoming games.
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Post by iot on Mar 5, 2020 21:50:01 GMT
As always, people are getting ridiculously ahead of themselves...
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Post by cadno on Mar 5, 2020 21:58:34 GMT
We've beaten Hungary and Azerbaijan, and drew with Croatia... let's see how we do this summer, I would love to see Neco do a job like Jazz or Gunter have over the years against the likes of Bosnia, Belgium, Germany etc. Has Neco played under pressure of the magnitude of a major tournament yet? No, how many first team appearances does he have? 5? Starting him in the euros would be a huge risk, say what you like about Gunter, he's a good defender, and playing Full back for Wales in a major tournament, without any prior experience, would be a different task than playing a few cup games for a Liverpool side that has most of the possession. I believe Neco has played against Arsenal, where they conceded 5 goals, Shrewsbury twice, A very weak Everton,and Chelsea, where they lost and conceded 2 goals. And apparently that CV puts him in a better place than Chris Gunter to start in the Euros, he has a lot of potential, but come on! I'd also argue that if Adam Matthews or Jazz started for Liverpool against Shrewsbury and a poor Everton, they would look impressive offensively, the fact is, we dont actually know how Neco will do in a different team, against the best international opposition. The friendlies will give us more of an idea though, I suppose. *A full strength Everton (he marked a Brazilian international out of the game), and a strong Chelsea side. Full strength, but really awful! They've improved a lot since then. I didn't mean to say a poor Chelsea sorry |
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Post by robin1864 on Mar 6, 2020 18:11:41 GMT
As always, people are getting ridiculously ahead of themselves... Nonsense, the Euro 2020 winner's medal & team of the tournament inclusion is basically his to lose! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Mar 7, 2020 12:21:17 GMT
On the bench today for Liverpool vs Bournemouth
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 8, 2020 22:15:11 GMT
New rule when the season re-starts is that 5 subs are now allowed - but you're only allowed 3 occasions where you can make those changes. E.g: double sub, double sub, single sub. Teams are also allowed to have a bench of 9 players as opposed to 7.
So basically Neco is guaranteed to be on the bench for the remaining games. I wonder if these rules will also increase the chance that he will get some game time in the run in. Even if just a few cameos here and there
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Post by iot on Jun 9, 2020 12:43:07 GMT
New rule when the season re-starts is that 5 subs are now allowed - but you're only allowed 3 occasions where you can make those changes. E.g: double sub, double sub, single sub. Teams are also allowed to have a bench of 9 players as opposed to 7. So basically Neco is guaranteed to be on the bench for the remaining games. I wonder if these rules will also increase the chance that he will get some game time in the run in. Even if just a few cameos here and there A combination of that, games played every 3 or 4 days and the fact they have the league in the bag should give him a few appearances! |
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Post by manulike on Jun 21, 2020 16:30:51 GMT
Encouraging to hear Kloopty have a special mention for our Neco in this
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Post by iot on Jun 21, 2020 19:40:34 GMT
It's been said many times on here that neco is second choice rb at liverpool but I don't buy it. I think klopp rates him very highly, but doesn't trust him enough to play him in important games yet.
In this game, they started with milner at lb (a position neco's played before). He then got injured and they bring on gomez. Matip then gets injured and, instead of moving gomez into his natural cb position and bring neco on, they bring lovren on. There's no doubt in my mind that if TAA was unavailable, they would start milner at rb and then gomez as the next option (both have played there before), making neco 4th choice.
That's not an issue at all for such a young player, but anyone who thinks neco's on the verge of challenging for a first team spot or is likely to get significant gametime next season may need to revise that opinion.
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 22, 2020 17:24:17 GMT
It's been said many times on here that neco is second choice rb at liverpool but I don't buy it. I think klopp rates him very highly, but doesn't trust him enough to play him in important games yet. In this game, they started with milner at lb (a position neco's played before). He then got injured and they bring on gomez. Matip then gets injured and, instead of moving gomez into his natural cb position and bring neco on, they bring lovren on. There's no doubt in my mind that if TAA was unavailable, they would start milner at rb and then gomez as the next option (both have played there before), making neco 4th choice. That's not an issue at all for such a young player, but anyone who thinks neco's on the verge of challenging for a first team spot or is likely to get significant gametime next season may need to revise that opinion. Completely agree. He’s a young lad who hasn’t had any form of run in senior football. If Liverpool were 2-0 up he might have got a risk free run out but surely it’s a sign the lad isn’t ready yet and we need to be patient not throw him in the pressure cooker. I personally think if he doesn’t get a loan move next season playing him in the Euros on the back of Liverpool’s Carabao Cup run will be irresponsible. Italy are technically amazing, Switzerland are the savviest team in Europe and Turkey always bring passion to these tournaments, it’s no place for someone unproven. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 22, 2020 17:52:04 GMT
My thinking is by this time next year he will have had more than just Carabao Cup games for Liverpool. I think he will fill in there in the odd Prem game + cups. And if he plays for us & does well (like Ampadu did with little to no senior games under his belt) he could be in with a shout. Not to say it's a guarantee by any means, I just think based on his performances when he has played he's been seriously impressive and has shown enough for me to think that he could stake a claim.
Let's not forget he was MOTM in a game against a full strength Everton side in the cup as well! Up against Richarlison - a Brazilian international as well!
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Post by quetzal on Jun 24, 2020 20:45:13 GMT
Here’s your moment Neco!
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jun 24, 2020 21:08:11 GMT
Looks hugely promising. If you fit in that squad then you're not a bad footballer. |
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Post by iot on Jun 24, 2020 21:33:55 GMT
Watched the last 10 mins and he was hugely impressive once again! He made one defence splitting pass ramsey would be proud of, showed really good footwork on another occasion to go past a player and get a shot off, and generally he was really bright everytime he was on the ball. If he can get enough minutes next season, i'd be surprised if he doesn't make the squad. But that's a big IF at Liverpool
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 24, 2020 21:54:07 GMT
How good was that cameo? No doubt for me, he is our number 1 right back in Baku & Rome.
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Post by cadno on Jun 24, 2020 22:04:36 GMT
Glad to hear he did well.
I'd like to see him tested defensively against top teams before we throw him into the deep end!
I'm not sure what looks good on paper is always what works best on the pitch, and I'd prefer to opt for experience over young talent when it comes to our back 4.
But I'm pretty sure Giggs will agree with the above and take the bold decision of starting Neco, who knows - it might pay off!
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Post by jbt95 on Jun 24, 2020 22:09:09 GMT
He's bound to get a run out this autumn, plenty of international games.
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 24, 2020 22:16:04 GMT
Very impressive debut, but we shouldn’t be pinning all our hopes on him. Crystal Palace were on the ropes when he came on, we need to judge him from minute 0 of a match.
Amazing through ball for Salah, looked positive and had a few chances to score. Retained possession well too. He’ll get his chance in friendlies for us and hopefully a few appearances for Liverpool, but he is really young and we shouldn’t be putting Euro hopes on him. If he’s on the plane or in the first team it’ll be a huge boost. He’ll be a top player if he’s managed correctly.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 25, 2020 7:18:35 GMT
Very impressive debut, but we shouldn’t be pinning all our hopes on him. Crystal Palace were on the ropes when he came on, we need to judge him from minute 0 of a match. Amazing through ball for Salah, looked positive and had a few chances to score. Retained possession well too. He’ll get his chance in friendlies for us and hopefully a few appearances for Liverpool, but he is really young and we shouldn’t be putting Euro hopes on him. If he’s on the plane or in the first team it’ll be a huge boost. He’ll be a top player if he’s managed correctly. I don't think anyone's pinning their Euro hopes on him when we have the likes of Ramsey, Bale, Allen and Brooks in the squad. |
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Post by squatter1 on Jun 25, 2020 10:28:19 GMT
It's been said many times on here that neco is second choice rb at liverpool but I don't buy it. I think klopp rates him very highly, but doesn't trust him enough to play him in important games yet. In this game, they started with milner at lb (a position neco's played before). He then got injured and they bring on gomez. Matip then gets injured and, instead of moving gomez into his natural cb position and bring neco on, they bring lovren on. There's no doubt in my mind that if TAA was unavailable, they would start milner at rb and then gomez as the next option (both have played there before), making neco 4th choice. That's not an issue at all for such a young player, but anyone who thinks neco's on the verge of challenging for a first team spot or is likely to get significant gametime next season may need to revise that opinion. Pretty much a load of shit then |
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jun 25, 2020 10:35:24 GMT
I’m sure that performance has bagged him a few extra starting spots after the EPL is wrapped up next game.
Would rather him go out on loan next season, however learning under TAA isn’t a bad option either.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 25, 2020 11:16:12 GMT
How many appearances earns him a league winner medal?
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Post by iot on Jun 25, 2020 12:26:46 GMT
It's been said many times on here that neco is second choice rb at liverpool but I don't buy it. I think klopp rates him very highly, but doesn't trust him enough to play him in important games yet. In this game, they started with milner at lb (a position neco's played before). He then got injured and they bring on gomez. Matip then gets injured and, instead of moving gomez into his natural cb position and bring neco on, they bring lovren on. There's no doubt in my mind that if TAA was unavailable, they would start milner at rb and then gomez as the next option (both have played there before), making neco 4th choice. That's not an issue at all for such a young player, but anyone who thinks neco's on the verge of challenging for a first team spot or is likely to get significant gametime next season may need to revise that opinion. Pretty much a load of shit then What is? |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 25, 2020 13:38:13 GMT
How many appearances earns him a league winner medal? 5. I would wager he'll get them. Klopp will want as many involved as possible for the experience. |
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Post by jbt95 on Jun 25, 2020 14:04:58 GMT
How many appearances earns him a league winner medal? 5. I would wager he'll get them. Klopp will want as many involved as possible for the experience. Seems wrong that in a way. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 25, 2020 19:35:20 GMT
Watched the last 10 mins and he was hugely impressive once again! He made one defence splitting pass ramsey would be proud of, showed really good footwork on another occasion to go past a player and get a shot off, and generally he was really bright everytime he was on the ball. If he can get enough minutes next season, i'd be surprised if he doesn't make the squad. But that's a big IF at Liverpool With his left peg as well! |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 25, 2020 19:40:45 GMT
Very impressive debut, but we shouldn’t be pinning all our hopes on him. Crystal Palace were on the ropes when he came on, we need to judge him from minute 0 of a match. Amazing through ball for Salah, looked positive and had a few chances to score. Retained possession well too. He’ll get his chance in friendlies for us and hopefully a few appearances for Liverpool, but he is really young and we shouldn’t be putting Euro hopes on him. If he’s on the plane or in the first team it’ll be a huge boost. He’ll be a top player if he’s managed correctly. I don't think anyone's pinning their Euro hopes on him when we have the likes of Ramsey, Bale, Allen and Brooks in the squad. Not to mention big Kieffer |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 25, 2020 20:01:35 GMT
Man City 1-0 down at Chelsea - they need to win otherwise the title goes to Anfield tonight. If it does, I'd bet Klopp will give everyone in the squad at least 4 appearances, including Neco. He'd be the first Welshman with a Premier League winners medal since.....
....Andy King!
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