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Post by bale-droed on Jun 25, 2020 22:59:31 GMT
Man City 1-0 down at Chelsea - they need to win otherwise the title goes to Anfield tonight. If it does, I'd bet Klopp will give everyone in the squad at least 4 appearances, including Neco. He'd be the first Welshman with a Premier League winners medal since..... ....Andy King! I’m pretty sure a player has to play 10 of 38 games to be eligible for a medal |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 26, 2020 0:59:30 GMT
Man City 1-0 down at Chelsea - they need to win otherwise the title goes to Anfield tonight. If it does, I'd bet Klopp will give everyone in the squad at least 4 appearances, including Neco. He'd be the first Welshman with a Premier League winners medal since..... ....Andy King! I’m pretty sure a player has to play 10 of 38 games to be eligible for a medal Went down to 5 in 2013 |
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Post by bale-droed on Jun 26, 2020 4:10:21 GMT
I’m pretty sure a player has to play 10 of 38 games to be eligible for a medal Went down to 5 in 2013 5 seems a bit generous to me! |
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Post by jbt95 on Jun 26, 2020 8:12:09 GMT
Whatever the rule is, if you've only played 13mins before the title is won, prob don't deserve one anyway!
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Jun 26, 2020 12:17:57 GMT
I think with the five subs rule, he'll probably get five games.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 26, 2020 20:15:16 GMT
Whatever the rule is, if you've only played 13mins before the title is won, prob don't deserve one anyway! Either way he'll go down in history as part of the squad. Being a 19 year old and taking any part in one of the best Premier League squads ever is impressive anyway. A good pub quiz question answer at some point no doubt! |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 26, 2020 22:14:47 GMT
I don't think anyone's pinning their Euro hopes on him when we have the likes of Ramsey, Bale, Allen and Brooks in the squad. Not to mention big Kieffer Sent from heaven. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jun 27, 2020 14:19:32 GMT
I think he’ll definitely get 5 now the seasons done for them. Klopp seems a decent man manager so will likely want as many of his players to get a medal as he can. Can’t hurt to get a few youngsters involved to benefit next season as well.
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Post by manulike on Jun 28, 2020 21:09:30 GMT
I’m pretty sure a player has to play 10 of 38 games to be eligible for a medal Went down to 5 in 2013 No idea if this Tweet is correct ... But if true, then our Benjamin should get one too!
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 29, 2020 16:34:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 20:45:58 GMT
Alexander-Arnold's having a mare.
Another decent 15/20 min cameo for Neco.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 2, 2020 21:12:47 GMT
Neco came on and played 15-20 minutes. Did pretty well again & looked bright. Liverpool were already 4-0 when he came on
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 2, 2020 21:21:31 GMT
Slots into the team well each time he comes on and does not look out of place. Hoping he gets a longer run out next time so we can see a bit more of him.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jul 2, 2020 21:30:58 GMT
Seen a fair bit of flack on Twitter for Robertson today. Were he to be rested, I wonder if Neco could also deputise at left back too, played there for Cymru u19s.
I think he’s the most trusted out of Liverpool’s youngsters now, wouldn’t be surprised if he starts vs Villa on Sunday.
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Post by iot on Jul 2, 2020 22:06:05 GMT
off topic sorry, but i'm starting to get concerned about all these promising english youngsters. I'd like to think the media's just overhyping english youth as usual, but some of these players look like brilliant talents. Foden was brilliant today, greenwood was outstanding yesterday, sancho's worth £50m+, declan rice has been excellent recently as a DM, before mentioning the likes of hudson odoi and reece james. i fear they will end their finals drought very soon
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Post by bobbyghoul on Jul 2, 2020 23:21:33 GMT
off topic sorry, but i'm starting to get concerned about all these promising english youngsters. I'd like to think the media's just overhyping english youth as usual, but some of these players look like brilliant talents. Foden was brilliant today, greenwood was outstanding yesterday, sancho's worth £50m+, declan rice has been excellent recently as a DM, before mentioning the likes of hudson odoi and reece james. i fear they will end their finals drought very soon Been coming since 2017. Not saying they'll win a tournament soon but they'll go close. |
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Post by quetzal on Jul 3, 2020 0:35:56 GMT
off topic sorry, but i'm starting to get concerned about all these promising english youngsters. I'd like to think the media's just overhyping english youth as usual, but some of these players look like brilliant talents. Foden was brilliant today, greenwood was outstanding yesterday, sancho's worth £50m+, declan rice has been excellent recently as a DM, before mentioning the likes of hudson odoi and reece james. i fear they will end their finals drought very soon Been coming since 2017. Not saying they'll win a tournament soon but they'll go close. Knock out football in latter stages. Germany, Italy, Spain. You’ve still got to beat these teams to win it. They do have a better young player now. For sure. |
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Post by squatter1 on Jul 3, 2020 8:17:52 GMT
Pretty much a load of shit then What is? Your ‘Williams is Liverpool’s 4th choice RB’ argument just looks like a load of crap when every time Trent goes off, Williams comes on. |
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Post by iot on Jul 3, 2020 8:57:56 GMT
Your ‘Williams is Liverpool’s 4th choice RB’ argument just looks like a load of crap when every time Trent goes off, Williams comes on. Thus far, he's started in the domestic Cup competitions which we know Klopp always uses to give the youth some gametime. He's also made 2 15min PL cameo appearances - the first when the game was already won with Liverpool 4-0 up, and the second when the game was already lost with Liverpool 4-0 down. From that you, and many others, have made the assumption that he's now considered 2nd choice RB. You may be right and we won't know for sure until there's a game with something riding on it against a good team and TAA is injured. If he starts Neco in that scenario, we can say with confidence that he is 2nd choice. If he opts for milner or gomez instead, we can say with confidence that he isn't 2nd choice. It's important because if he is 2nd choice, it's probably better that he stays at lpool next season as he's likely to get plenty of gametime. If he's not 2nd choice, we can expect a similar amount of gametime next season which would probably not be enough for him to seriously challenge for a starting spot at the euros. |
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Post by squatter1 on Jul 3, 2020 9:02:32 GMT
Your ‘Williams is Liverpool’s 4th choice RB’ argument just looks like a load of crap when every time Trent goes off, Williams comes on. Thus far, he's started in the domestic Cup competitions which we know Klopp always uses to give the youth some gametime. He's also made 2 15min PL cameo appearances - the first when the game was already won with Liverpool 4-0 up, and the second when the game was already lost with Liverpool 4-0 down. From that you, and many others, have made the assumption that he's now considered 2nd choice RB. You may be right and we won't know for sure until there's a game with something riding on it against a good team and TAA is injured. If he starts Neco in that scenario, we can say with confidence that he is 2nd choice. If he opts for milner or gomez instead, we can say with confidence that he isn't 2nd choice. It's important because if he is 2nd choice, it's probably better that he stays at lpool next season as he's likely to get plenty of gametime. If he's not 2nd choice, we can expect a similar amount of gametime next season which would probably not be enough for him to seriously challenge for a starting spot at the euros. You’re the one making the assumptions, I’m just watching what actually happens |
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Post by iot on Jul 3, 2020 12:19:07 GMT
Thus far, he's started in the domestic Cup competitions which we know Klopp always uses to give the youth some gametime. He's also made 2 15min PL cameo appearances - the first when the game was already won with Liverpool 4-0 up, and the second when the game was already lost with Liverpool 4-0 down. From that you, and many others, have made the assumption that he's now considered 2nd choice RB. You may be right and we won't know for sure until there's a game with something riding on it against a good team and TAA is injured. If he starts Neco in that scenario, we can say with confidence that he is 2nd choice. If he opts for milner or gomez instead, we can say with confidence that he isn't 2nd choice. It's important because if he is 2nd choice, it's probably better that he stays at lpool next season as he's likely to get plenty of gametime. If he's not 2nd choice, we can expect a similar amount of gametime next season which would probably not be enough for him to seriously challenge for a starting spot at the euros. You’re the one making the assumptions, I’m just watching what actually happens Ok... I think that's quite clearly incorrect, but there we are... |
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Post by melynwy on Jul 3, 2020 12:48:50 GMT
Thus far, he's started in the domestic Cup competitions which we know Klopp always uses to give the youth some gametime. He's also made 2 15min PL cameo appearances - the first when the game was already won with Liverpool 4-0 up, and the second when the game was already lost with Liverpool 4-0 down. From that you, and many others, have made the assumption that he's now considered 2nd choice RB. You may be right and we won't know for sure until there's a game with something riding on it against a good team and TAA is injured. If he starts Neco in that scenario, we can say with confidence that he is 2nd choice. If he opts for milner or gomez instead, we can say with confidence that he isn't 2nd choice. It's important because if he is 2nd choice, it's probably better that he stays at lpool next season as he's likely to get plenty of gametime. If he's not 2nd choice, we can expect a similar amount of gametime next season which would probably not be enough for him to seriously challenge for a starting spot at the euros. You’re the one making the assumptions, I’m just watching what actually happens Why the aggression? He makes a perfectly valid point in a perfectly reasonable manner. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2020 12:55:16 GMT
I think we can rely on England always looking forward to their next batch of kids to finally make them a world power. So many of them seem to peak in their very early 20s. Kane and Alli have looked shadows of their former selves for much of this season.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 3, 2020 13:07:51 GMT
Seen a fair bit of flack on Twitter for Robertson today. Were he to be rested, I wonder if Neco could also deputise at left back too, played there for Cymru u19s. I think he’s the most trusted out of Liverpool’s youngsters now, wouldn’t be surprised if he starts vs Villa on Sunday. He's definitely more likely to get game time than Elliott & Jones so I'd agree Klopp seems to trust him. I'd wager that Klopp would perhaps go for Miller in big games if TAA wasn't available, but the majority of the time I wouldn't be surprised to see Neco play deputy. I think he'll get more minutes next season as well |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jul 3, 2020 13:30:57 GMT
Alexander-Arnold's having a mare. Another decent 15/20 min cameo for Neco. Not many seem to think this way but Trent could end up playing 2nd fiddle to Neco soon enough. Both have very good crossing skills and are pacy, but I feel Neco has better defensive ability. Liverpool have done well to have 2 such promising right backs on their books. Neco has 2 years on Trent as well. |
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Post by iot on Jul 3, 2020 13:37:20 GMT
I think we can rely on England always looking forward to their next batch of kids to finally make them a world power. So many of them seem to peak in their very early 20s. Kane and Alli have looked shadows of their former selves for much of this season. I wish that were so, but I've always felt Alli in particular is over-hyped and never feared him (I don't get that same feeling about the others). I disagree on Kane, he's been injured for most of the season, his goal per game ratio is still outstandingly good - he could have had a hat-trick yesterday with two goals very harshly chalked off. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 3, 2020 16:31:35 GMT
off topic sorry, but i'm starting to get concerned about all these promising english youngsters. I'd like to think the media's just overhyping english youth as usual, but some of these players look like brilliant talents. Foden was brilliant today, greenwood was outstanding yesterday, sancho's worth £50m+, declan rice has been excellent recently as a DM, before mentioning the likes of hudson odoi and reece james. i fear they will end their finals drought very soon England's youth players were always going to improve with their huge investments. Phil Foden looks like he's finally ready to take over for David Silva, perfectly managed by Pep to coincide with Silva departing. He's a really special player (De Bruyne aside he's been City's best player since the restart), and by the time the Euros rolls around next summer I think he'll be an England regular. As for Sancho I'd say he's become a £100 mil player this season looking at his output. The question for England is always mentality. If it weren't for their bonkers press piling pressure on them & and the huge fan expectations of 'it's coming home' and all that nonsense they'd be easily up there with Brazil & France as my favourites to win the next few tournaments. However, they really struggle with these factors & it's very difficult to gain a winning mentality after such high profile losses over a long period. They've definitely got the squad to get deep into tournaments, whether they've got the mettle to win anything - I'm not so sure |
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Post by biwmares on Jul 3, 2020 17:19:38 GMT
Alexander-Arnold's having a mare. Another decent 15/20 min cameo for Neco. Not many seem to think this way but Trent could end up playing 2nd fiddle to Neco soon enough. Both have very good crossing skills and are pacy, but I feel Neco has better defensive ability. Liverpool have done well to have 2 such promising right backs on their books. Neco has 2 years on Trent as well. Neco's younger brother & Cymru under 17's cap is Keelan Williams & is also a right back who was at Liverpool but now at Burnley. |
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Post by squatter1 on Jul 4, 2020 8:56:29 GMT
You’re the one making the assumptions, I’m just watching what actually happens Why the aggression? He makes a perfectly valid point in a perfectly reasonable manner. Aggression? |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 5, 2020 10:20:03 GMT
Is there a chance he could make his first start in the league today?
Did quite well when he came on for TAA the other day, who had quite a poor game against Man City. Title wrapped up, and playing a team in the relegation place - he might have a decent chance of starting
Possibly due to the fact that Klopp could be going for a record points total - that might work against Neco. Would be good to see him get a full run out though
Here's a clip of his cameo against Man City -
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