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Post by fiveattheback on Dec 11, 2023 18:31:45 GMT
Hopefully he can add an international goal in March
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Post by welrus on Dec 16, 2023 16:31:14 GMT
Sky reporting Tom collapsed, paramedics on pitch. Game suspended, players off pitch. Sounds worrying.
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Post by iantov on Dec 16, 2023 16:32:57 GMT
Sky reporting Tom collapsed, paramedics on pitch. Game suspended, players off pitch. Sounds worrying. Oh no
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Post by iantov on Dec 16, 2023 16:35:45 GMT
BBC commentator Chris Wise has just reported that they have been told Tom Lockyer is "alert and responsive" in the tunnel.
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Post by welrus on Dec 16, 2023 16:36:59 GMT
BBC commentator Chris Wise has just reported that they have been told Tom Lockyer is "alert and responsive" in the tunnel. Same reported on sky.
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Post by cynonvalley on Dec 16, 2023 16:47:05 GMT
I'm glad he's ok but he'll most likely have to retire after this
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 16, 2023 16:51:21 GMT
This is awful, I'm glad he is responsive, that's almost certainly a very sad ending to his career.
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Post by iantov on Dec 16, 2023 17:06:03 GMT
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Post by surge on Dec 16, 2023 17:07:07 GMT
I really hope he's okay and above comments suggest he's responsive.
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Post by iantov on Dec 16, 2023 17:25:10 GMT
Rob Edwards in tears.
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 16, 2023 17:25:16 GMT
Hate to say it but I never want to see the lad play again. Peak of his career but there's more to life than football. Let's hope he is fine.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 16, 2023 17:38:07 GMT
Why get ahead of ourselves here. Let's see what the medics have to say. I don't see any reason at this stage to write his career off.
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 16, 2023 17:47:47 GMT
Why get ahead of ourselves here. Let's see what the medics have to say. I don't see any reason at this stage to write his career off. Two this year, pretty much 6 months apart, two in the space of about 20 matches. Two fairly massive reasons.
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Post by manulike on Dec 16, 2023 17:49:11 GMT
Get well soon! #TeamTom
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 16, 2023 18:03:25 GMT
Why get ahead of ourselves here. Let's see what the medics have to say. I don't see any reason at this stage to write his career off. Two this year, pretty much 6 months apart, two in the space of about 20 matches. Two fairly massive reasons. Couldn't put it better myself. Even if it's minor and just something wasn't right I think you have to think about stopping. After collapsing once due to a heart and again for any reason it's time to think too much of a risk.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 16, 2023 18:38:04 GMT
Two this year, pretty much 6 months apart, two in the space of about 20 matches. Two fairly massive reasons. Couldn't put it better myself. Even if it's minor and just something wasn't right I think you have to think about stopping. After collapsing once due to a heart and again for any reason it's time to think too much of a risk. Are you a medic? Why not just allow Lockyer to make a decision himself? Of course, the fact that he's had two serious medical issues in quick succession will weigh heavily on his mind. But I don't see what's gained by making such a big decision for him.
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Post by marsvolta on Dec 16, 2023 18:42:48 GMT
I see the antivaxers on Social media have taken advantage of Tom’s condition to further their cause.
Apparently he’s collapsed because he had the vaccine (which i presume they don’t even know if he has had it)
Lowest of the low.
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Post by cynonvalley on Dec 16, 2023 19:00:31 GMT
Couldn't put it better myself. Even if it's minor and just something wasn't right I think you have to think about stopping. After collapsing once due to a heart and again for any reason it's time to think too much of a risk. Are you a medic? Why not just allow Lockyer to make a decision himself? Of course, the fact that he's had two serious medical issues in quick succession will weigh heavily on his mind. But I don't see what's gained by making such a big decision for him. The decision might be out of his hands. I don't know if Luton would want to risk playing him again.
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Post by jbt95 on Dec 16, 2023 19:02:07 GMT
Are you a medic? Why not just allow Lockyer to make a decision himself? Of course, the fact that he's had two serious medical issues in quick succession will weigh heavily on his mind. But I don't see what's gained by making such a big decision for him. The decision might be out of his hands. I don't know if Luton would want to risk playing him again. Or any insurer. Alfie Mawson was paying a four figure sum a month towards the end of his career for a knee injury.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 16, 2023 19:08:24 GMT
Que sera, sera...
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Post by 1gwaunview on Dec 16, 2023 19:22:30 GMT
Brysiwch a wella Tom.
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Post by conwy10 on Dec 16, 2023 19:40:07 GMT
Couldn't put it better myself. Even if it's minor and just something wasn't right I think you have to think about stopping. After collapsing once due to a heart and again for any reason it's time to think too much of a risk. Are you a medic? Why not just allow Lockyer to make a decision himself? Of course, the fact that he's had two serious medical issues in quick succession will weigh heavily on his mind. But I don't see what's gained by making such a big decision for him. Shall I not phone him then? I don't know why you think I'll be making his decision for him. You do know its an open forum where we put ideas and opinions across, usually when theres emotion involved. Not tell players what to do. If it comes back he had low blood sugar levels then a few will look foolish, but they've abandoned a Premier League match as both teams didn't wish to continue. Of course it will be his decision on medical advice, or probably by insurance these days. Of course his health will be private, but as fans it doesn't stop us from seeking conversation will fellow fans when there's concern about the lad. We are all deeply concerned for him, he's own of us.
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Post by dai on Dec 16, 2023 19:57:58 GMT
Just checked the news for tye first time after being out all day.
Absolutely horrible and frightening for Tom. Its a massive shock too after what appeared to be a full recovery after his previous issue.
Hope he makes a recovery and regains his health.
Sadly, I dont think he should be back on the pitch after this. Sense must prevail after having two heart related medical issues.
Massive shame for us as he looked so good recently.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 16, 2023 20:29:44 GMT
What is it with people? Let the poor lad recover, and then, in the fullness of time decide on the best course of action based on the best medical advice. I find the audacity that some have in thinking they know what's best for Tom quite remarkable. Just rein in the egos a bit.
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 16, 2023 20:39:12 GMT
Couldn't put it better myself. Even if it's minor and just something wasn't right I think you have to think about stopping. After collapsing once due to a heart and again for any reason it's time to think too much of a risk. Are you a medic? Why not just allow Lockyer to make a decision himself? Of course, the fact that he's had two serious medical issues in quick succession will weigh heavily on his mind. But I don't see what's gained by making such a big decision for him. You're talking like we're making the decision for him, chill out. You don't have to go off on one just because you don't agree with someone. This isn't a hamstring injury we're talking about here, across the World players collapse on the pitch and die every season so when someone collapses twice in the space of 6 months it becomes a huge concern.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Dec 16, 2023 20:58:55 GMT
When you say "it's time to think too much of a risk." then you are trying to make the decision for him. What is it with some people...
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Post by jimexotic on Dec 16, 2023 21:28:15 GMT
When you say "it's time to think too much of a risk." then you are trying to make the decision for him. What is it with some people... No it's not, nobody on here is trying to make a decision for him. People are suggesting that it might be time to consider the future given the enormity of this, this isn't your standard football injury.
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Post by wirralwelsh on Dec 16, 2023 22:26:45 GMT
Couldn't put it better myself. Even if it's minor and just something wasn't right I think you have to think about stopping. After collapsing once due to a heart and again for any reason it's time to think too much of a risk. Are you a medic? Why not just allow Lockyer to make a decision himself? Of course, the fact that he's had two serious medical issues in quick succession will weigh heavily on his mind. But I don't see what's gained by making such a big decision for him. Medical professionals told him it was safe to continue his career after his op earlier in the year. Clearly professional medical advice was not accurate
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Post by aberbeeg on Dec 17, 2023 6:36:40 GMT
When you say "it's time to think too much of a risk." then you are trying to make the decision for him. What is it with some people... Premiership football needs extreme levels of stamina. Obviously his heart has a major failing of some sort. I think it’s safe to say his career as we know it will be over. There’s more to life than running yourself into an early grave. get well soon fella and go and enjoy your life doing something much less strenuous
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Post by erasedcitizen on Dec 17, 2023 8:41:19 GMT
When you say "it's time to think too much of a risk." then you are trying to make the decision for him. What is it with some people... Arguing with fans who are clearly just looking out for Tom's wellbeing is not really appropriate.
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