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Post by pendragon on Sept 20, 2020 22:06:44 GMT
Lee Johnson said something after the city game that he’s learning how to use his body an strength. He seems to be getting better with every game for wales an Cardiff, we may have a late bloomer like vardy in our camp. Ha! Wasn't too far off the mark then was I!
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 3, 2020 13:43:13 GMT
Starts again today, been the only bright spot in a bleak start to the season for City
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Post by cymru98 on Oct 9, 2020 5:22:39 GMT
Hopefully nothing serious and he’s ok for Sunday.. crucial player in the scheme of things
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Post by dai on Oct 9, 2020 13:04:02 GMT
Giggs reported as saying:
'The game changed with the first goal, but when Kieffer (Moore) went off, we lost that target. And also on set-pieces, where we conceded two bad goals, he's a big part of that too, on defending set-pieces.'
So isn't it important to have a back up?
P.S. He also said last night that they won't be calling anyone up because of the bubble protocols. Yet how can Ireland call up two new players?!
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 10, 2020 14:53:01 GMT
Giggs reported as saying: 'The game changed with the first goal, but when Kieffer (Moore) went off, we lost that target. And also on set-pieces, where we conceded two bad goals, he's a big part of that too, on defending set-pieces.' So isn't it important to have a back up? P.S. He also said last night that they won't be calling anyone up because of the bubble protocols. Yet how can Ireland call up two new players?! Giggs seems to have a hierarchy of players that get picked ahead of others regardless of impact on formation/tactics. For instance picking Woodburn over a more obvious natural replacement for Moore like Doidge or Vokes
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Post by cymru98 on Oct 21, 2020 20:19:58 GMT
On for the last 20, 1-1 vs Bournemouth Wilson on the scoresheet
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Post by manulike on Oct 21, 2020 20:48:11 GMT
On for the last 20, 1-1 vs Bournemouth Wilson on the scoresheet I thought the big boy was poor tonight. Only had 20', but did very little. To be fair, the cherries had most of the ball in those last 25'
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Post by barry on Oct 28, 2020 21:22:06 GMT
Just equalized against Derby.
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 28, 2020 21:22:58 GMT
Good finish 1 on 1 between the keeper's legs
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Post by cymru98 on Oct 28, 2020 21:30:49 GMT
Big man scoring, shame Wilson wasn’t available
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Post by spiritof16 on Nov 19, 2020 13:57:17 GMT
Anyone else a bit annoyed at his celebration (or lack of) after scoring last night? As a Cardiff and Wales fan i certainly like the guy but he looked like had just scored a goal in a training match or a consolation goal in 5-1 defeat.
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Post by robwrecsam on Nov 19, 2020 14:08:45 GMT
He took a knock to the knee at one point, maybe still feeling that?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 19, 2020 15:52:00 GMT
Yeah my partner who isn't interested in football pointed out his lack of celebration. I said to her at the time I think it's cos he just hurt his knee, but it was a bit strange. Maybe it's just his thing, he didn't celebrate much against Finland the 1st time either. Tbf without a crowd it's not the same when properly celebrating
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Post by welshrover on Nov 19, 2020 15:59:15 GMT
Yeah my partner who isn't interested in football pointed out his lack of celebration. I said to her at the time I think it's cos he just hurt his knee, but it was a bit strange. Maybe it's just his thing, he didn't celebrate much against Finland the 1st time either. Tbf without a crowd it's not the same when properly celebrating Noticed it myself, he didn't appear that enamoured with his team mates either.
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Post by joio on Nov 19, 2020 16:13:08 GMT
Yeah my partner who isn't interested in football pointed out his lack of celebration. I said to her at the time I think it's cos he just hurt his knee, but it was a bit strange. Maybe it's just his thing, he didn't celebrate much against Finland the 1st time either. Tbf without a crowd it's not the same when properly celebrating Noticed it myself, he didn't appear that enamoured with his team mates either. First thing Malcolm Allen said on S4C's commentary when Nic Parry went to him to respond to the goal. In Welsh of course but he said "He could look a little happier than he did in that picture!"
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Post by dai on Nov 19, 2020 16:27:31 GMT
Moore finds it tough in international matches because the ref gives him absolutely NOTHING the majority of the time.
I've noticed he becomes quite a demoralised figure in some games, and I don't know if it's just me but he's doesn't attempt to win as many headers as he used to - due to getting penalised so often.
I would say 80% of refereeing decisions during his 50-50's with a CB end up going the CB's way.
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Post by rushy on Nov 19, 2020 20:28:42 GMT
He's done enough to warrant his place in the squad, he is an option and Wales don't have too many of those.
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Nov 19, 2020 20:33:33 GMT
But please give us a big smile next time you score, Kieffer!
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Post by gwernybwch on Nov 19, 2020 21:26:32 GMT
Anyone else a bit annoyed at his celebration (or lack of) after scoring last night? As a Cardiff and Wales fan i certainly like the guy but he looked like had just scored a goal in a training match or a consolation goal in 5-1 defeat. Yeah, I saw it as well. I wasn't impressed. The next time he scores a Wales goal with his head in front of The Grange End, I'm going to get the entire Canton End to start singing "Aaron Ramsey". It was a pity to see his 'celebration' especially when you compare it to look of unbridled joy on the face of Jonny Williams when he scored recently.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 19, 2020 21:32:34 GMT
Anyone else a bit annoyed at his celebration (or lack of) after scoring last night? As a Cardiff and Wales fan i certainly like the guy but he looked like had just scored a goal in a training match or a consolation goal in 5-1 defeat. Yeah, I saw it as well. I wasn't impressed. The next time he scores a Wales goal with his head in front of The Grange End, I'm going to get the entire Canton End to start singing "Aaron Ramsey". It was a pity to see his 'celebration' especially when you compare it to look of unbridled joy on the face of Jonny Williams when he scored recently. They're pretty different goals tbf. Williams scored a last minute winner whilst Moore scored the third goal in a win against 10 men having just gone down hurt. Disappointing but hardly the end of the world
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Post by barry on Nov 19, 2020 21:33:28 GMT
Anyone else a bit annoyed at his celebration (or lack of) after scoring last night? As a Cardiff and Wales fan i certainly like the guy but he looked like had just scored a goal in a training match or a consolation goal in 5-1 defeat. It was a pity to see his 'celebration' especially when you compare it to look of unbridled joy on the face of Jonny Williams when he scored recently. Different circumstances,
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Post by gwernybwch on Nov 19, 2020 21:47:53 GMT
Yeah, I saw it as well. I wasn't impressed. The next time he scores a Wales goal with his head in front of The Grange End, I'm going to get the entire Canton End to start singing "Aaron Ramsey". It was a pity to see his 'celebration' especially when you compare it to look of unbridled joy on the face of Jonny Williams when he scored recently. They're pretty different goals tbf. Williams scored a last minute winner whilst Moore scored the third goal in a win against 10 men having just gone down hurt. Disappointing but hardly the end of the world It might have been a 'nothing goal' to him and was still hurting, but something tells me there was something much more to it than that. He didn't even acknowledge the bloke that put in the pinpoint cross. You can see Dan James even tap him, but there was no response. It all seemed a million miles away from the 'together stronger' ethos.
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Post by manulike on Nov 19, 2020 21:49:22 GMT
Anyone else a bit annoyed at his celebration (or lack of) after scoring last night? As a Cardiff and Wales fan i certainly like the guy but he looked like had just scored a goal in a training match or a consolation goal in 5-1 defeat. Yeah, I saw it as well. I wasn't impressed. The next time he scores a Wales goal with his head in front of The Grange End, I'm going to get the entire Canton End to start singing "Aaron Ramsey". It was a pity to see his 'celebration' especially when you compare it to look of unbridled joy on the face of Jonny Williams when he scored recently. Lets leave our Aaron out of this ;-)
Is it not to do with young Harold molesting him while he was still nursing his poor bruised knee ...
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Post by pendragon on Nov 19, 2020 22:27:17 GMT
Anyone else a bit annoyed at his celebration (or lack of) after scoring last night? As a Cardiff and Wales fan i certainly like the guy but he looked like had just scored a goal in a training match or a consolation goal in 5-1 defeat. Considering his goal sealed our victory, I was surprised with his "too cool for school" demeanour. As someone else has pointed out, I think there may be some truth to the idea that he may be feeling a little demoralised due to refereeing decision-making. As a result, he's starting fewer games and perhaps this could have been the reason why he didn't appear to be so enamoured with his team mates? Still, he gave his all regardless and that knee did seem to be bothering him. It's hard to know what the truth of the matter is.
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Post by iot on Nov 19, 2020 22:34:38 GMT
There had been a fair bit of talk about how he'd never scored at home for us or cardiff, so i was thinking that had been playing on his mind and the reason for his celebration. Both he and Dan James seemed to let out a lot of frustration in their celebrations, but in very different ways!
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Post by pendragon on Nov 19, 2020 22:39:28 GMT
I know that S4C touched on it but didn't really make a big deal out of it.
He has been effective throughout this campaign and played a crucial role in the last few games of the Euro 2020 (now 2021) qualifying campaign, so I'd be disappointed if that sort of talk has had an effect on him.
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Post by 1gwaunview on Nov 20, 2020 10:59:57 GMT
Does it really matter how he celebrated (or not)? He scored that was the main thing, and can be satisfied with his Cymru performances overall to date, don't think we'd have qualified for the Euros without his selection.
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Post by rangers15 on Nov 20, 2020 12:27:04 GMT
Does it really matter how he celebrated (or not)? He scored that was the main thing, and can be satisfied with his Cymru performances overall to date, don't think we'd have qualified for the Euros without his selection. I guess it shows how far we've come as a team when people are questioning and moaning about a players goal celebration. personally I couldn't care a jot - i think some people need to stop over-analysing stuff maybe?
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Post by cogancoronation31 on Nov 20, 2020 14:04:37 GMT
I'd like it cleared up all the same... perhaps some diligent investigative journo will ask him at some point.
Anyway, as rangers15 suggests, let's move on.
Keep scoring for us in 2021, Kieffer... that's the main thing (and get a few for CCFC b4 Christmas too!)
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Post by insertname on Nov 20, 2020 17:19:55 GMT
Maybe he’s tired of carrying a load of entitled welsh people on his back!
It is highly highly debatable that we would be where we are if it wasn’t for the size of his contribution in such a small period of time. Just let him be.
Honestly, it shows how far we’ve come that a player’s celebration is all there is to complain about. I guess that’s a positive in a sense. Christ a lack of a celebration wouldn’t have even registered 10 years ago.
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