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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 20, 2021 18:18:05 GMT
Two goals off 20 for the season. Probably wants to play.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 21, 2021 8:48:49 GMT
My fellow Cardiff fans think he'll get signed by a Premier League team at the end of this season. I honestly can't quite see it. I think Burnley are the only type of club who would want a striker of his type, and they already have 3 or 4 strikers that they seem happy with. Can't really see any other sides wanting him
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 24, 2021 14:28:18 GMT
Unreal goal from big Kieff. Best goal I've seen him score. Bale would have been proud of that one
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Post by cynonvalley on Apr 24, 2021 15:38:39 GMT
20 now?
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 24, 2021 16:23:45 GMT
Put your feet up big man and save some for the Euros
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Post by cymroircarn on Apr 24, 2021 17:20:18 GMT
Yes, don’t tell Delme Parfitt mind! |
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Post by eppingblue1 on Apr 24, 2021 19:23:44 GMT
Pit your feet up big man and save some for the Euros 2 games left for Cardiff this season, not much of an issue if he features or not. In fact probably better for Wales if he keeps up his form. |
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Post by welshiron on Apr 25, 2021 9:10:10 GMT
Got his 20 goals which maybe triggered a nice bonus.
Time to rest up now for 2 reasons
1so he's not knackered for the Euros
2. So he is as fit as possible for next season.
Makes sense for club and country
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 25, 2021 10:13:40 GMT
Yes, don’t tell Delme Parfitt mind! The best part of the Delme Parfitt tweet is that he says something like ‘Harry Kane would have scored that’. Are Cardiff only supposed to sign players comparable to Harry Kane now? Imagine Neil Harris’ conversation with the chairman. ‘Yeah, thanks for offering to stump up £2million to sign a championship striker but I was thinking more in the line of £100million for a top six premier league England international’ |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 28, 2021 11:42:27 GMT
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Post by marsvolta on May 9, 2021 0:03:10 GMT
Been named Cardiff’s player of the season.
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Post by welshiron on May 13, 2021 20:56:28 GMT
Deserves a chance in the epl but don't think he will get it.
Really surprised me these last 18 months
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Post by insertname on Jun 12, 2021 15:48:53 GMT
Along with Ward he got us out of jail today. Just watched the replay of his goal and my memory of it is all wrong, I thought he headed it back where it came from but that’s actually a really deft effort considering he directed it towards the back stick He’ll have added an extra 0 to his transfer value and the premiership move I doubted he would get is now probably not far off. 20 goals for Cardiff and 1 in the Euros. Fair play son. I get the impression a good number of Welsh fans have never really taken to him so I hope he’s silenced the doubters now because he’s been a revelation for Wales and all his goals seem to have been crucial ones. Can’t ask for mo(o)re from him than that really.
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Post by hooky on Jun 12, 2021 16:14:02 GMT
Massive respect to him
I have been a bit skeptical in the past but he just continues to develop - the last 12 months he has taken it to another level.
He alone made a difference not only in seeing us qualify (without him we may well have been in the playoffs) and in ensuring we fights to see another day in the tournament.
Hope he gets a Premier League move. Someone with his attitude and quality deserves a chance in the big time.
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Post by aberbeeg on Jun 12, 2021 18:17:14 GMT
The only player who looked liked causing them problems
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Post by insertname on Jun 12, 2021 18:24:06 GMT
The only player who looked liked causing them problems Dan James caused them problems, we just never got the ball to him enough. And we can’t over look Bale and Ramsey’s deliveries, not their fault that we’ve got no-one in the team with the instinct or pace to get in the right place to be on the end of it. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Jun 12, 2021 18:47:21 GMT
Made. Of. Magic.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 14, 2021 21:27:08 GMT
Morata is not a better footballer than Kieffer Moore.
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Post by insertname on Jun 14, 2021 21:44:54 GMT
Morata is not a better footballer than Kieffer Moore. I wrote out a post along those lines earlier but never got round to posting it. The more I see the likes of Switzerland, Spain and Scotland missing chances I think of how Moore scored 1 of 2 chances (drawing an excellent save even with the one he missed) and wondered what his ratio of opportunities taken to total opportunities is in a Welsh shirt. His strike rate of 6 in 19 is pretty decent by our standards but (hopefully I’m not romanticising here) I’m sure that he hasn’t really missed all that many easy chances either because as a team we don’t create many high quality opportunities. Basically if you give him an opportunity with his head it’s got a high chance of going in. If he wasn’t a target man type and scored with his feet more often I’m sure he’d have a much higher profile. As it is I think he’s going under the radar considerably. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 14, 2021 21:52:00 GMT
Morata is not a better footballer than Kieffer Moore. I wrote out a post along those lines earlier but never got round to posting it. The more I see the likes of Switzerland, Spain and Scotland missing chances I think of how Moore scored 1 of 2 chances (drawing an excellent save even with the one he missed) and wondered what his ratio of opportunities taken to total opportunities is in a Welsh shirt. His strike rate of 6 in 19 is pretty decent by our standards but (hopefully I’m not romanticising here) I’m sure that he hasn’t really missed all that many easy chances either because as a team we don’t create many high quality opportunities. Basically if you give him an opportunity with his head it’s got a high chance of going in. If he wasn’t a target man type and scored with his feet more often I’m sure he’d have a much higher profile. As it is I think he’s going under the radar considerably. Once he gets his prem move, which I feel is just around the corner, he will gain a profile for sure if that club utilises him properly. I feel he could get 15 goals a season at that level if used right. One player who hasn't half benefitted from choosing to represent Wales. |
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Post by insertname on Jun 14, 2021 22:01:44 GMT
I wrote out a post along those lines earlier but never got round to posting it. The more I see the likes of Switzerland, Spain and Scotland missing chances I think of how Moore scored 1 of 2 chances (drawing an excellent save even with the one he missed) and wondered what his ratio of opportunities taken to total opportunities is in a Welsh shirt. His strike rate of 6 in 19 is pretty decent by our standards but (hopefully I’m not romanticising here) I’m sure that he hasn’t really missed all that many easy chances either because as a team we don’t create many high quality opportunities. Basically if you give him an opportunity with his head it’s got a high chance of going in. If he wasn’t a target man type and scored with his feet more often I’m sure he’d have a much higher profile. As it is I think he’s going under the radar considerably. Once he gets his prem move, which I feel is just around the corner, he will gain a profile for sure if that club utilises him properly. I feel he could get 15 goals a season at that level if used right. One player who hasn't half benefitted from choosing to represent Wales. I’d argue we have benefited m(o)ore! Wouldn’t have qualified without him in my opinion. I saw the lad who was banging on about him and recommended him to Bristol Rovers when he was at Truro saying the other day what an example he is to non-league players after he scored against Switzerland. He’s certainly maximised his talent but to be fair to him he’s also progressed with each level he’s played at. Done well for us but even then I’m not sure many Wales fans would have put him down for 20 goals for Cardiff and some decent ones with his feet too. He’s full of surprises and I hope he earns a prem move, but one where he actually gets a decent chance to play, given how he has risen to the challenge for Yeovil, then Rotherham, then Wales, then Cardiff. There is a clear upward trajectory there and he needs to play rather than be a speculative punt of a signing who then tumbles back down the leagues. I keep thinking Burnley as an understudy to Chris Wood. |
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Post by erasedcitizen on Jun 14, 2021 22:18:36 GMT
Once he gets his prem move, which I feel is just around the corner, he will gain a profile for sure if that club utilises him properly. I feel he could get 15 goals a season at that level if used right. One player who hasn't half benefitted from choosing to represent Wales. I’d argue we have benefited m(o)ore! Wouldn’t have qualified without him in my opinion. I saw the lad who was banging on about him and recommended him to Bristol Rovers when he was at Truro saying the other day what an example he is to non-league players after he scored against Switzerland. He’s certainly maximised his talent but to be fair to him he’s also progressed with each level he’s played at. Done well for us but even then I’m not sure many Wales fans would have put him down for 20 goals for Cardiff and some decent ones with his feet too. He’s full of surprises and I hope he earns a prem move, but one where he actually gets a decent chance to play, given how he has risen to the challenge for Yeovil, then Rotherham, then Wales, then Cardiff. There is a clear upward trajectory there and he needs to play rather than be a speculative punt of a signing who then tumbles back down the leagues. I keep thinking Burnley as an understudy to Chris Wood. Agree, we have. It's been mutually beneficial. Burnley was my idea, he'd be the perfect replacement for Barnes who seems to be on the way out. Just depends on whether they'd want to pay the £12m or whatever Cardiff demand. Suppose if he scores more in this tournament be could go for as much as £15m. |
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Post by danybont on Jun 15, 2021 9:40:55 GMT
For a proven goalscorer who is as valuable in the air defensively as he is on the ground up front, the fact 15m is being bandied around in todays market is pretty disgusting.
If he was English you'd be looking at at least 25m for a man as talented and handsome as our Keiffer.
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Post by texan on Jun 15, 2021 9:43:16 GMT
When Moore hit the scene in late 2019 he was a bit lumbering but was so different to anything else we had he was a breath of fresh air, definitely helped push us over the line. His footwork on the ball (1st/2nd touches specifically) was relatively poor but his movement and awareness of space was great, and he kept trying to do the right things with his feet, kept trying to turn into the right areas but they often didn't come off. He struck me a someone who desperately wanted to keep trying to improve.
Fast forward 18 months and bloody hell, he's so, SO much better with his feet now. International football (and consequently Championship football) has really brought him on in leaps & bounds. He strikes me as a player who will score anywhere as long as he has good service. He can succeed in the PL no doubt, as long as he goes to a side that can deliver for him.
Will those sides take a chance however? I think he deserves it.
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Post by iot on Jun 15, 2021 10:15:15 GMT
I think I'm on my own here, but I think his best performances for us by a country mile were his first two competitive ones against Slovakia and Croatia. In those games, he bullied supposedly world class defenders and without him I'm pretty sure we would not have secured those two vital draws to get our campaign back on track.
On Saturday, he did great with the two chances that he got and was excellent in defending our box at corners. However, I actually thought his hold up play was much poorer than it's been in the past. It was partly because of poor service, but even when it was played into him he miscontrolled or made wayward knock-downs and got dispossessed far more than he retained possession even on the rare occasions where he got decent service. He was still our second best player, but I'm not sure why people are making out he's a much better player now than what he was at the beginning.
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Post by texan on Jun 15, 2021 11:50:10 GMT
He was still our second best player, but I'm not sure why people are making out he's a much better player now than what he was at the beginning. Because he is! No he wasn't at his best on Sat, but neither were most of the others. But his recent performances overall (late '20/early '21) have shown he's learnt a hell of a lot since his debut. |
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Post by insertname on Jun 15, 2021 12:48:45 GMT
He was still our second best player, but I'm not sure why people are making out he's a much better player now than what he was at the beginning. Because he is! No he wasn't at his best on Sat, but neither were most of the others. But his recent performances overall (late '20/early '21) have shown he's learnt a hell of a lot since his debut. Yeah it’s wrong to single Moore out because everyone gave the ball away cheaply, even Bale lost the ball a number of times through a poor touch. Maybe it was the occasion or the conditions, but Moore certainly was not alone in that sense I personally just don’t think you can understate a player who can capitalise on scraps like he did and also the run he made too to create the opportunity- that certainly showed an intelligence he probably didn’t have when he first came in. Also I’ve seen so many English and Irish people who are really upset and angry that the whole tournament was ruined for them in only the second game because Wales didn’t get the shoeing that they were promised and the word “luck” is being thrown about liberally as the reason why. But I don’t see what is lucky about the opponents having crap strikers who can’t score. It lead me to compare Seferovic and Moore. Seferovic plays for Benfica, so a high level and has 20 goals for his club this season and yet since September 2020 Moore has a better scoring record at international level than him for a similar number of games played. That was one of the key factors that got Wales a draw at the end of the day. The unfashionable target man donkey has been way more clinical than the guy who plays for Benfica. |
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Post by rangers15 on Jun 15, 2021 12:56:43 GMT
i've just said on the cymru v turkey thread that i think he'll start on the bench tomorrow evening. just a feeling more than anything else.
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Post by saints19 on Jun 16, 2021 1:17:55 GMT
Personally thought Moore was in our top 3 players on Sat, Moore, James and Ward were the main ones who did themselves credit. Moore had a good effort in the first half excellently saved too. There's not a huge amount you can do when the ball is punted up to you non-stop and your team mates expect you to do all the work. We really need to mix the play up more tomorrow.
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Post by squatter1 on Jun 16, 2021 8:09:47 GMT
Because he is! No he wasn't at his best on Sat, but neither were most of the others. But his recent performances overall (late '20/early '21) have shown he's learnt a hell of a lot since his debut. Yeah it’s wrong to single Moore out because everyone gave the ball away cheaply, even Bale lost the ball a number of times through a poor touch. Maybe it was the occasion or the conditions, but Moore certainly was not alone in that sense I personally just don’t think you can understate a player who can capitalise on scraps like he did and also the run he made too to create the opportunity- that certainly showed an intelligence he probably didn’t have when he first came in. Also I’ve seen so many English and Irish people who are really upset and angry that the whole tournament was ruined for them in only the second game because Wales didn’t get the shoeing that they were promised and the word “luck” is being thrown about liberally as the reason why. But I don’t see what is lucky about the opponents having crap strikers who can’t score. It lead me to compare Seferovic and Moore. Seferovic plays for Benfica, so a high level and has 20 goals for his club this season and yet since September 2020 Moore has a better scoring record at international level than him for a similar number of games played. That was one of the key factors that got Wales a draw at the end of the day. The unfashionable target man donkey has been way more clinical than the guy who plays for Benfica. We were lucky not to concede more than one against Swiss. |
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