Wales Away Ticket Loyalty Scheme

[gwernybwch]

With the ticket allocations for Estonia and Belarus looking to be tight, some of us might not be able to get tickets :-(

I've tried to find the last that they applied the loyalty scheme and I think that it was for Hungary away?

It was based on that time the last 12 away games and the ticket stages were -


Ticket Sales - Stage 1

Any 8 out of the last 12 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history

All 801 members who qualify for stage 1 are guaranteed a ticket provided they book before the end of stage 1.



Ticket Sales - Stage 2

Any 7 out of the last 12 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history

There are a further 439 eligible members in stage 2.



Ticket Sales - Stage 3

Any 6 out of the last 12 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history

There are a further 430 members eligible in stage 3.



Ticket Sales - Stage 4

Any 5 out of the last 12 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history

There are a further 353 members eligible in stage 4.



Ticket Sales - Stage 5

Any 4 out of the last 12 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history

There are a further 400 members eligible in stage 5.



Ticket Sales - Stage 6

Any 3 out of the last 12 away qualifying/friendly matches on their booking history

There are a further 496 members eligible in stage 6.



For reference, at that time the last 12 aways at that time were -

Albania v Wales

Rep. of Ireland v Wales 16.10.18

Denmark v Wales 09.09.18

Mexico v Wales 28.05.18

China Cup Finals Day - Wales v Uruguay 26.03.18

China Cup - China v Wales 22.03.18

France v Wales 10.11.17

Georgia v Wales 06.10.17

Moldova v Wales 05.09.17

Serbia v Wales 11.06.17

Republic of Ireland v Wales 24.03.17

Austria v Wales 06.10.16

[superunknown]

The last time they applied it was for Azerbaijan technically, so it was all of the games above plus Hungary and Croatia.

However, they also applied it for the Euro tickets as well on a points system with the last 16 games inclusive of Slovakia and Azerbaijan.

I would now expect them to at a minimum cut off all the WC qualifiers and the France friendly.

So at a best guess it'll probably be the last 10 out of the China Cup games, Mexico, Denmark, Ireland, Albania and the Euro qualifiers. They may even cut the China Cup and Mexico I'm not sure. It'll be tough though agreed, I think Estonia most people will be able to go if they want to, they don't tend to fill their stadium. Belarus and Czech Republic won't be an easy one though.

It's a shame we probably won't get away fans in for Belgium, could have got a few more people on the ladder.

[5pike]

Last 10 Aways (with fans)

Azerbaijan v Wales 16.11.19
Slovakia v Wales 13.10.19
Hungary v Wales 11.6.19
Croatia v Wales 8.6.19
Albania v Wales 20.11.18
Rep. of Ireland v Wales 16.10.18
Denmark v Wales 09.09.18
Mexico v Wales 28.05.18
China Cup Finals Day - Wales v Uruguay 26.03.18
China Cup - China v Wales 22.03.18

[Toffeeman]

Dec 9, 2020 10:21:32 GMT 5pike said:

Last 10 Aways (with fans)

Azerbaijan v Wales 16.11.19
Slovakia v Wales 13.10.19
Hungary v Wales 11.6.19
Croatia v Wales 8.6.19
Albania v Wales 20.11.18
Rep. of Ireland v Wales 16.10.18
Denmark v Wales 09.09.18
Mexico v Wales 28.05.18
China Cup Finals Day - Wales v Uruguay 26.03.18
China Cup - China v Wales 22.03.18

Interesting, I have 4 of them. I guess, as per usual it all boils down to how much of an allocation we receive/or how many FAW can negotiate, and where we might be later in the year regarding the covid virus and impact of the vaccine geographically.

[5pike]

Dec 9, 2020 12:54:56 GMT Toffeeman said:

Dec 9, 2020 10:21:32 GMT 5pike said:

Interesting, I have 4 of them. I guess, as per usual it all boils down to how much of an allocation we receive/or how many FAW can negotiate, and where we might be later in the year regarding the covid virus and impact of the vaccine geographically.

Yeah very much an unknown at the minute, guess we got to be a bit optimistic.  After this year it's good to have something to get excited about although could be also be setting ourselves up for disappointment.  

[steveh]

I’ve got 6 of that last 10 and wouldn’t feel confident for any of them bar Belgium, which we’re unlikely to get to anyway. But for those that have 7+ they more than deserve first dibs when you look at some of the destinations, Azerbaijan, America and China x2 ( there’s a case for that being 1?)

Not sure if anyone has the figures for official tickets to the far flung destinations?

[georgeberrysheadband]

I think you will be fine with 6 out of the listed 10 for all of the games if they’re played at the biggest grounds. Tallin may be an issue but we would probably receive a bigger allocation than the 5%. It’s really 6/9 isn’t it with the 2 China games listed.

[cymru58]

Do they not normally start from the beginning of the previous tournament games? If this is the case Euro 20 effectively started with the Nations League games in September 18 and in that scenario the China and Mexico games also drop off with only the last 7 away games being counted.

[manulike]

Dec 11, 2020 21:41:08 GMT steveh said:

I’ve got 6 of that last 10 and wouldn’t feel confident for any of them bar Belgium, which we’re unlikely to get to anyway. But for those that have 7+ they more than deserve first dibs when you look at some of the destinations, Azerbaijan, America and China x2 ( there’s a case for that being 1?)

Not sure if anyone has the figures for official tickets to the far flung destinations?

From memory I think the first game v China was officially 350 and the second v Uruguay was circa 420 or so.

I didn't go to LA, but believe it was no more than 300.

I imagine that 95% of those who qualified (and went) to both Osijek and Budapest will get tickets ;-)

As for the loyalty thing - the figures I can find for Azerbaijan away were:

We were allocated 1200 tickets.

1,074 supporters were eligible in stage 1, with 9 out of last 14 games

An additional 140 supporters are eligible in stage 2, with 8/14 games

[jbt95]

Dec 9, 2020 8:20:35 GMT superunknown said:

The last time they applied it was for Azerbaijan technically, so it was all of the games above plus Hungary and Croatia.

However, they also applied it for the Euro tickets as well on a points system with the last 16 games inclusive of Slovakia and Azerbaijan.

I would now expect them to at a minimum cut off all the WC qualifiers and the France friendly.

So at a best guess it'll probably be the last 10 out of the China Cup games, Mexico, Denmark, Ireland, Albania and the Euro qualifiers. They may even cut the China Cup and Mexico I'm not sure. It'll be tough though agreed, I think Estonia most people will be able to go if they want to, they don't tend to fill their stadium. Belarus and Czech Republic won't be an easy one though.

It's a shame we probably won't get away fans in for Belgium, could have got a few more people on the ladder.

It might be time for them to go down the route of banding away games in periods of time with points.

Like if you went to China you get 5 points. If you did 3 games in the 2018 WCQ you get 5 points etc.

If they only use 2018 onward, 5 of those games had minimal take up because 3 were not in Europe and either a friendly or all-but-friendlies, a fourth was in Azerbaijan, a fifth a friendly Albania and the Hungary/Croatia allocations were pretty small and in the same double header so I'd assume nearly everybody who went to the game with the smallest allocation went to the other one as well.

That only leaves Denmark, ROI and Slovakia really, and many of us had unofficial Danish away tickets due to the small allocation.

So large chunks of people are probably going to be on the same amount of loyalty. 

[Dai cap]

So you want them to count the easy games but not the more trickier away games? I’m not understanding what you mean ? 

an away game is an away game surely??

[Wales Away]

If they continue with 100% collection from the hotel then it’s very likely that most people will get tickets. Harvesting or buying for friends saw popular trips sell much more quickly than Azerbaijan did.

[Martyn Moses]

We are on 4 from that group but actually attended 6 as we got " home " tickets ( later changed by the DBU to away but don't count ) for Denmark and had comps for Croatia . We have booked the double header so plan to do Czech & Estonia only .