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Post by manulike on Jul 29, 2019 19:08:12 GMT
They're really messing him around. No wonder he isn't in the right mental state. I think Real have reached an impasse and this has the potential to affect their whole season. Surely, either he or Zidane will have to go. If it's another woeful performance on Tuesday, it might be curtains for Zidane. Yes ;-( And think of the broken wee hearts of his daughters. I bet he promised them all the latest X-box games when they go to China and Armani hand bags for his Mrs ;-(
I will grab a mate and go and grab another £12 burger at Eleven's tomorrow - every little helps ;-)
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Post by insertname on Jul 29, 2019 19:53:54 GMT
He withdrew himself. He is still being paid 600,000 a week to play football when needed by Real Madrid and now he's gone off in a sulk. I honestly wonder what still motivates him? He had a good opportunity to step up and show Real that he still has a part to play at the club and he has rejected it. Poor form from Bale that. It's being reported that he's withdrawn as he's not in the right mental state to play, after Real withdrew his move to China at the last minute. By all accounts Perez stopped the move, doesn't mean he's in favour with Zidane. I dunno, whatever happened to being a professional and respecting the fact you are still being paid an insane sum of money to play football? Real are still his employer and they are paying him to play football. If they docked his pay for refusing to play I’m sure we would be hearing from his agent in the press about unfair treatment. With the way he reacted to his team mate when he scored, to refusing to play against Bayern, to this, I am starting to lose sympathy and think he is painting himself as a bad egg. Not a good look for potential suitors in the west, but if he just wants to earn easy money (which seems to be the case) I doubt the Chinese will care about his professionalism.
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Post by iot on Jul 29, 2019 20:45:01 GMT
Bale not included in the latest pre-season squad. What a mess. He withdrew himself. He is still being paid 600,000 a week to play football when needed by Real Madrid and now he's gone off in a sulk. I honestly wonder what still motivates him? He had a good opportunity to step up and show Real that he still has a part to play at the club and he has rejected it. Poor form from Bale that. Poor comment, withdrawing from a preseason match is completely understandable given the recent turmoil he's had to go through. He's been publicly humiliated by Zidane, and then set himself up to live in china for 3 years despite wanting to stay in Madrid - flown out there to see the place, probably done all sorts of research etc. And then at the eleventh hour he's told that's all gone, and the next couple of years are going to be completely different to what he'd planned for. And he's stuck at a club where he doesn't get on with his team mates, the fans don't like him and the manager really doesn't like him and will rarely play him. They all want him gone, but he's stuck there. No need for the macho bollocks, it's completely understandable if he's a bit messed up after that, and this is all really bad news for us!
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 29, 2019 21:39:31 GMT
He withdrew himself. He is still being paid 600,000 a week to play football when needed by Real Madrid and now he's gone off in a sulk. I honestly wonder what still motivates him? He had a good opportunity to step up and show Real that he still has a part to play at the club and he has rejected it. Poor form from Bale that. Poor comment, withdrawing from a preseason match is completely understandable given the recent turmoil he's had to go through. He's been publicly humiliated by Zidane, and then set himself up to live in china for 3 years despite wanting to stay in Madrid - flown out there to see the place, probably done all sorts of research etc. And then at the eleventh hour he's told that's all gone, and the next couple of years are going to be completely different to what he'd planned for. And he's stuck at a club where he doesn't get on with his team mates, the fans don't like him and the manager really doesn't like him and will rarely play him. They all want him gone, but he's stuck there. No need for the macho bollocks, it's completely understandable if he's a bit messed up after that, and this is all really bad news for us! This. Just put yourself in his shoes for a moment. Imagine your employer publicly stating that they were looking to move you on after not treating you well, agreeing a deal with another company on the other side of the world, letting you fly out there and make plans to completely uproot your life with your family, and then at the 11th hour pulling out and not providing any clarity as to how they plan on moving forward. Anyone who says this wouldn't affect them isn't really giving it more than a seconds thought. Also the money is completely irrelevant in the context of mental health, there are plenty of millionaires with mental health problems. To a homeless person someone on the national average wage is a rich person, and could equally say "how can you sulk about poor treatment when you're earning thousands of pounds?". The reality is Real Madrid are an absolute mess at the moment, and are completely disrespecting a player that has given them so much since joining. 4 Champions Leagues in 5 years has made them arrogant and spoiled, and I think they are going to struggle for the next few years.
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Post by insertname on Jul 29, 2019 22:58:46 GMT
Poor comment, withdrawing from a preseason match is completely understandable given the recent turmoil he's had to go through. He's been publicly humiliated by Zidane, and then set himself up to live in china for 3 years despite wanting to stay in Madrid - flown out there to see the place, probably done all sorts of research etc. And then at the eleventh hour he's told that's all gone, and the next couple of years are going to be completely different to what he'd planned for. And he's stuck at a club where he doesn't get on with his team mates, the fans don't like him and the manager really doesn't like him and will rarely play him. They all want him gone, but he's stuck there. No need for the macho bollocks, it's completely understandable if he's a bit messed up after that, and this is all really bad news for us! This. Just put yourself in his shoes for a moment. Imagine your employer publicly stating that they were looking to move you on after not treating you well, agreeing a deal with another company on the other side of the world, letting you fly out there and make plans to completely uproot your life with your family, and then at the 11th hour pulling out and not providing any clarity as to how they plan on moving forward. Anyone who says this wouldn't affect them isn't really giving it more than a seconds thought. Also the money is completely irrelevant in the context of mental health, there are plenty of millionaires with mental health problems. To a homeless person someone on the national average wage is a rich person, and could equally say "how can you sulk about poor treatment when you're earning thousands of pounds?". The reality is Real Madrid are an absolute mess at the moment, and are completely disrespecting a player that has given them so much since joining. 4 Champions Leagues in 5 years has made them arrogant and spoiled, and I think they are going to struggle for the next few years. Bale is no saint in all this, there is blame on both sides so I don’t see him as being as hard done by as the rest of you. Let’s not forget he was very quick to announce he was thinking about his future minutes after winning the European cup. Not very classy, a hint of what was to come and I’m sure the hierarchy at Real would have taken note. Undoubtedly there has been bad treatment since most notably by Zidane and his comments but Bale has to ask himself how much of that he has brought on himself with his failure to integrate. I give Ramsey stick but fair play to him for learning the language from the off at least. At the end of the day the way I see it is fairly black and white in that Real were happy to offer a ridiculous contract, Bale was happy to sign it. Until that deal is broken both parties should honour it and as I say Bale has not exactly earned the right to take issue because his behaviour has not exactly been classy in all this. He used to come across as a model professional back in the day but Ever since he went on strike to force the move to Madrid through (remember that?) his halo has slipped somewhat. Now we are at a point where he doesn’t seem to give a shit about anything other than getting paid a million pounds a week and will do what he can to get his way. It doesn’t come across well- to me at least. And just to add I’ve been in tough situations in work where I have to work with colleagues I don’t like for an employer whose values I don’t respect and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife I’m sure we all have. But I’m paid to do a job and I’m a professional with a strong work ethic and a bulletproof mentality so I bloody well get on and fulfill my contract and I do it on an nth of the money that Bale makes because I recall being destitute without even having a job for the best part of a year at one point. If I can do it then I don’t have much time for people who lack the mental fortitude to do it too. That’s about it really. Flame away!
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Post by zakbaby on Jul 30, 2019 1:32:43 GMT
This. Just put yourself in his shoes for a moment. Imagine your employer publicly stating that they were looking to move you on after not treating you well, agreeing a deal with another company on the other side of the world, letting you fly out there and make plans to completely uproot your life with your family, and then at the 11th hour pulling out and not providing any clarity as to how they plan on moving forward. Anyone who says this wouldn't affect them isn't really giving it more than a seconds thought. Also the money is completely irrelevant in the context of mental health, there are plenty of millionaires with mental health problems. To a homeless person someone on the national average wage is a rich person, and could equally say "how can you sulk about poor treatment when you're earning thousands of pounds?". The reality is Real Madrid are an absolute mess at the moment, and are completely disrespecting a player that has given them so much since joining. 4 Champions Leagues in 5 years has made them arrogant and spoiled, and I think they are going to struggle for the next few years. Bale is no saint in all this, there is blame on both sides so I don’t see him as being as hard done by as the rest of you. Let’s not forget he was very quick to announce he was thinking about his future minutes after winning the European cup. Not very classy, a hint of what was to come and I’m sure the hierarchy at Real would have taken note. Undoubtedly there has been bad treatment since most notably by Zidane and his comments but Bale has to ask himself how much of that he has brought on himself with his failure to integrate. I give Ramsey stick but fair play to him for learning the language from the off at least. At the end of the day the way I see it is fairly black and white in that Real were happy to offer a ridiculous contract, Bale was happy to sign it. Until that deal is broken both parties should honour it and as I say Bale has not exactly earned the right to take issue because his behaviour has not exactly been classy in all this. He used to come across as a model professional back in the day but Ever since he went on strike to force the move to Madrid through (remember that?) his halo has slipped somewhat. Now we are at a point where he doesn’t seem to give a shit about anything other than getting paid a million pounds a week and will do what he can to get his way. It doesn’t come across well- to me at least. And just to add I’ve been in tough situations in work where I have to work with colleagues I don’t like for an employer whose values I don’t respect and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife I’m sure we all have. But I’m paid to do a job and I’m a professional with a strong work ethic and a bulletproof mentality so I bloody well get on and fulfill my contract and I do it on an nth of the money that Bale makes because I recall being destitute without even having a job for the best part of a year at one point. If I can do it then I don’t have much time for people who lack the mental fortitude to do it too. That’s about it really. Flame away! Couldn't agree more. Both sides have been at fault here. Could you imagine a Spanish bloke coming over to work in your town and after 6 years still hasn't attempted to learn the lingo? He has alienated himself. There was no mention of a transfer fee, only his wages. Surely a fee, no matter how small would have been discussed? He now needs to man up, work hard and at least make himself available. He does for a living what I pay to do, play football and gets paid a fortune to do so. Typical detached from reality footballer
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Post by cymruramdcfc on Jul 30, 2019 4:25:21 GMT
Bale is no saint in all this, there is blame on both sides so I don’t see him as being as hard done by as the rest of you. Let’s not forget he was very quick to announce he was thinking about his future minutes after winning the European cup. Not very classy, a hint of what was to come and I’m sure the hierarchy at Real would have taken note. Undoubtedly there has been bad treatment since most notably by Zidane and his comments but Bale has to ask himself how much of that he has brought on himself with his failure to integrate. I give Ramsey stick but fair play to him for learning the language from the off at least. At the end of the day the way I see it is fairly black and white in that Real were happy to offer a ridiculous contract, Bale was happy to sign it. Until that deal is broken both parties should honour it and as I say Bale has not exactly earned the right to take issue because his behaviour has not exactly been classy in all this. He used to come across as a model professional back in the day but Ever since he went on strike to force the move to Madrid through (remember that?) his halo has slipped somewhat. Now we are at a point where he doesn’t seem to give a shit about anything other than getting paid a million pounds a week and will do what he can to get his way. It doesn’t come across well- to me at least. And just to add I’ve been in tough situations in work where I have to work with colleagues I don’t like for an employer whose values I don’t respect and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife I’m sure we all have. But I’m paid to do a job and I’m a professional with a strong work ethic and a bulletproof mentality so I bloody well get on and fulfill my contract and I do it on an nth of the money that Bale makes because I recall being destitute without even having a job for the best part of a year at one point. If I can do it then I don’t have much time for people who lack the mental fortitude to do it too. That’s about it really. Flame away! Couldn't agree more. Both sides have been at fault here. Could you imagine a Spanish bloke coming over to work in your town and after 6 years still hasn't attempted to learn the lingo? He has alienated himself. There was no mention of a transfer fee, only his wages. Surely a fee, no matter how small would have been discussed? He now needs to man up, work hard and at least make himself available. He does for a living what I pay to do, play football and gets paid a fortune to do so. Typical detached from reality footballer Both parties need to look at themselves on way they conducting they affairs Bale high wages planned to play in lower league compared to European Real Madrid on the way they treated Bale and how they club is in turmoil changing managers etc .. To some we have red eyes for Bale and he cant do no wrong what ever he does .
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Post by pendragon on Jul 30, 2019 8:35:54 GMT
This. Just put yourself in his shoes for a moment. Imagine your employer publicly stating that they were looking to move you on after not treating you well, agreeing a deal with another company on the other side of the world, letting you fly out there and make plans to completely uproot your life with your family, and then at the 11th hour pulling out and not providing any clarity as to how they plan on moving forward. Anyone who says this wouldn't affect them isn't really giving it more than a seconds thought. Also the money is completely irrelevant in the context of mental health, there are plenty of millionaires with mental health problems. To a homeless person someone on the national average wage is a rich person, and could equally say "how can you sulk about poor treatment when you're earning thousands of pounds?". The reality is Real Madrid are an absolute mess at the moment, and are completely disrespecting a player that has given them so much since joining. 4 Champions Leagues in 5 years has made them arrogant and spoiled, and I think they are going to struggle for the next few years. Bale is no saint in all this, there is blame on both sides so I don’t see him as being as hard done by as the rest of you. Let’s not forget he was very quick to announce he was thinking about his future minutes after winning the European cup. Not very classy, a hint of what was to come and I’m sure the hierarchy at Real would have taken note. Undoubtedly there has been bad treatment since most notably by Zidane and his comments but Bale has to ask himself how much of that he has brought on himself with his failure to integrate. I give Ramsey stick but fair play to him for learning the language from the off at least. At the end of the day the way I see it is fairly black and white in that Real were happy to offer a ridiculous contract, Bale was happy to sign it. Until that deal is broken both parties should honour it and as I say Bale has not exactly earned the right to take issue because his behaviour has not exactly been classy in all this. He used to come across as a model professional back in the day but Ever since he went on strike to force the move to Madrid through (remember that?) his halo has slipped somewhat. Now we are at a point where he doesn’t seem to give a shit about anything other than getting paid a million pounds a week and will do what he can to get his way. It doesn’t come across well- to me at least. And just to add I’ve been in tough situations in work where I have to work with colleagues I don’t like for an employer whose values I don’t respect and you could cut the atmosphere with a knife I’m sure we all have. But I’m paid to do a job and I’m a professional with a strong work ethic and a bulletproof mentality so I bloody well get on and fulfill my contract and I do it on an nth of the money that Bale makes because I recall being destitute without even having a job for the best part of a year at one point. If I can do it then I don’t have much time for people who lack the mental fortitude to do it too. That’s about it really. Flame away! I see your point. But we don't know what's been going on behind the scenes. We don't know what has caused him to feel that he isn't in the right mental state to play. Is it the loss of that lucrative contract that concerns him, or the fact that he feels he is in a workplace situation where lack of mutual trust and confidence on both sides has broken down to the extent that it is no longer tolerable? If it's the latter, money is irrelevant in this context. I recognise that Bale hasn't been a saint. However, he's also naturally shy and doesn't give interviews. All this can be misconstrued as "not making an effort". If Ronaldo felt underappreciated there, what chance has Bale got? Also, the lack of rapport with his team mates (Modric and now apparently Hazard excepted) may have a lot to do with internal politics for all we are aware. How can you really call out a colleague who just wants to go home for a quiet night? Not really a valid reason to criticise your team mate is it? In terms of the squad, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Real concede a huge amount of goals. Why their fans and their management feel the need to blame Bale for nearly ALL their woes and refuse to acknowledge that the defence and defensive midfield needs a huge overhaul is beyond me. They need to be looking at the likes of Marcelo and Carvajal. A new galactico is pointless if you are conceding more goals than you are scoring.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 30, 2019 8:48:46 GMT
Real's defence has been the problem all along, anyone can see that. Its bonkers that they're not focussing on sorting that out first. Bale, Hazard and Benzema up top will score plenty so Zidane needs to swallow his pride, apologise to Bale and play those three together.
Our Gar got him out of jail in the Champions League final and he'll do it again if shown the respect he deserves.
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Post by insertname on Jul 30, 2019 9:03:01 GMT
Real's defence has been the problem all along, anyone can see that. Its bonkers that they're not focussing on sorting that out first. Bale, Hazard and Benzema up top will score plenty so Zidane needs to swallow his pride, apologise to Bale and play those three together. Our Gar got him out of jail in the Champions League final and he'll do it again if shown the respect he deserves. Exactly, which is why I’m pretty disappointed in Bale for not making himself available for the Bayern game and the Audi cup. He seems to be doing what Gareth Bale feels like doing even though he has been given a chance to play his way back in to favour. If the Gareth Bale of the Euro 2016 qualifying campaign got on the pitch then how could they leave him out? It’s one thing dropping him but he isn’t making a case for inclusion by his attitude before we even speak of his performances. I’ll say again, he was happy to sign a 5 year mega bucks contract knowing it could go sour. While that is the case Real own his ass and if they want to scupper his move then they may be acting like ass holes but they are legally within their right to do so and Bale has to respect that and try and play his way back in while the opportunity is there.
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Post by texan on Jul 30, 2019 9:44:18 GMT
Many good points regarding Bale here, money is irrelevant where mental health is concerned and quality of life is suffering, life isn't black and white. Not everyone is capable of knuckling down and ploughing through to honour a contract if they're suffering internally.
Having said that, I agree that Bale has played his part in all this. He hasn't integrated whatsoever and lives in a Welsh 'bubble' in Madrid with his family and friends, Toshack was spot on in his comments last night, Bale hasn't tried anywhere near hard enough. Also, having fought tooth and nail to stay in Madrid and press home the fact he was ready and available to the team despite Zidane's comments, you'd think he'd regard Perez pulling the plug as a victory, you'd think he'd now want to take advantage of it and really press his case for inclusion in the upcoming games. So for him to pull out citing he's not in the right frame of mind I find bizarre!
Something's rotten here and we're not getting the full story, is Bale trapped? Is he Elvis to Barnett's Colonel? It would certainly tie into his personality as a quiet unassuming individual. Perhaps Barnett's pricing him out of moves to half-decent European clubs by demanding his wages are maintained in order for him to get his cut. It would certainly explain the China link, the only club prepared to UP Bale's wages is the one Barnett's linked to with his Stellar Group.
Wherever Bale ends up, be it staying with RM or going elsewhere, I think he needs to get out from under Barnett's shadow asap. That's where the roots of his problems lie!
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Post by insertname on Jul 30, 2019 10:14:49 GMT
Many good points regarding Bale here, money is irrelevant where mental health is concerned and quality of life is suffering, life isn't black and white. Not everyone is capable of knuckling down and ploughing through to honour a contract if they're suffering internally. Having said that, I agree that Bale has played his part in all this. He hasn't integrated whatsoever and lives in a Welsh 'bubble' in Madrid with his family and friends, Toshack was spot on in his comments last night, Bale hasn't tried anywhere near hard enough. Also, having fought tooth and nail to stay in Madrid and press home the fact he was ready and available to the team despite Zidane's comments, you'd think he'd regard Perez pulling the plug as a victory, you'd think he'd now want to take advantage of it and really press his case for inclusion in the upcoming games. So for him to pull out citing he's not in the right frame of mind I find bizarre!Something's rotten here and we're not getting the full story, is Bale trapped? Is he Elvis to Barnett's Colonel? It would certainly tie into his personality as a quiet unassuming individual. Perhaps Barnett's pricing him out of moves to half-decent European clubs by demanding his wages are maintained in order for him to get his cut. It would certainly explain the China link, the only club prepared to UP Bale's wages is the one Barnett's linked to with his Stellar Group. Wherever Bale ends up, be it staying with RM or going elsewhere, I think he needs to get out from under Barnett's shadow asap. That's where the roots of his problems lie! Yes! The bolded is a point I've been trying to make albeit not nearly as succinctly. One minute he is prepared to sit out his contract, the next he wants to leave and can't bring himself to go out on the pitch. However where we disagree is that I'm not sure there is more to it other than Bale was not willing to earn less than 600k a week so was happy (as happy as you can be when not playing) to see his contract out, then the Chinese came calling offering him 1 million a week and Bale decided that sum of money was worth getting out of bed for now he is in a sulk because the vast riches have been taken away. I can't see it being about anything other than money personally. Bale wants the most that he can make and isn't motivated otherwise. I'm not sure his agent is the bad guy either. If he wanted his pockets filled surely he could have been agitating for a move long ago to United or whoever, yet he has always said that rumours were false and that he was staying in Madrid (meaning no pay day for the agent). He can't make Bale play anywhere, the player has to sign to agree the deal so I don't see how agreeing a move to China was purely the work of his agent. Anyway, I'm sure he is in the right frame of mind for a round of golf back in Spain. Good luck to him, but (and I don't care if he is Welsh, Ugandan or Outer-Mongolian, his heritage makes no difference to my opinion) a less than stellar attitude and a shocking waste of talent.
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Post by pendragon on Jul 30, 2019 10:55:29 GMT
I think that in order to resolve the situation (where Bale is concerned), I think it is quite clear that he or Zidane will have to go. Zidane feels his relationship with Bale is beyond repair, and I suspect that Bale will have the same sentiments, so that tells you all you need to know about the prospects of them coming to an accord.
In a way, Perez has signalled that they still need Bale. Perhaps Bale's stance is also his way of attempting to force himself - or Zidane - out. The second looks an increasingly likely prospect if they lose again.
I would also say that unless that defence is sorted, Bale will continue to be blamed for Real's woes, so even if they get a new manager, someone will have to take the bull by the horns and show Marcelo and Carvajal the exit door. Otherwise, nothing will change (as Lopetegui and Solari found to their cost).
I will add though that working for an employer whose values you despise purely for the money, and working in a very hostile environment where the management and your colleagues are totally against you are two different scenarios. The second can be intolerable.
If he were to succeed at Madrid, removing some of the more woeful performers (and potential troublemakers, where Bale is concerned) would be half the trouble. A new defensive set-up could have time to build a fresh rapport with Bale.
For his part, Bale would need to try to crack the language barrier issues and summon the courage to do some of those interviews that he may dislike - all part of the deal of being a Galactico I suppose.
That is the only way I can ever see him succeeding at Madrid, unless he feels that his relationship with the club is also beyond repair.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 30, 2019 11:52:18 GMT
Bale has already succeeded at Real, he's certainly been more successful than his manager anyway.
If only he'd left after that famous night in Kiev...what a way to sign off that would have been.
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Post by pendragon on Jul 30, 2019 11:57:21 GMT
By succeeding, I mean being ingratiated and embraced by the squad, the management and supporters (as ingratiated as one can be, given their fickle nature), and crucially, getting the game time he deserves.
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Post by turkpower on Jul 30, 2019 12:29:27 GMT
65% of real fans want Zidane out. Hopefully Bale is playing a clever long game hoping that Zidane goes first.
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Jul 30, 2019 13:57:14 GMT
Post by pendragon on Jul 30, 2019 13:57:14 GMT
If Zidane insists that Bale is surplus to requirements and the team continue on the downward trajectory, you can see how this might favour Bale. And Bale pulling out of the squad might reinforce the idea that the two cannot reconcile their differences, so surely, something will have to give unless they want to finish outside the top 10 in La Liga this season!
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Post by insertname on Jul 30, 2019 15:24:59 GMT
As an aside, I knew Zidane would be unpopular on here but I'm surprised at how unpopular he is amongst neutrals. I mean, I've never liked him- sketchy disciplinary record crowned by that headbutt on Matarazzi (I think it was him) in the WC final which was a ridiculous thing to do. He just came across as a lairy arse as a player. But I am a bit shocked how he now seems to have a reputation as a bit of a see you next Tuesday. Great players often get looked upon favourably so it's surprising how many have taken offence at his public statements on Bale.
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Jul 30, 2019 21:35:04 GMT
Post by gwernybwch on Jul 30, 2019 21:35:04 GMT
Many good points regarding Bale here, money is irrelevant where mental health is concerned and quality of life is suffering, life isn't black and white. Not everyone is capable of knuckling down and ploughing through to honour a contract if they're suffering internally. Having said that, I agree that Bale has played his part in all this. He hasn't integrated whatsoever and lives in a Welsh 'bubble' in Madrid with his family and friends, Toshack was spot on in his comments last night, Bale hasn't tried anywhere near hard enough. Also, having fought tooth and nail to stay in Madrid and press home the fact he was ready and available to the team despite Zidane's comments, you'd think he'd regard Perez pulling the plug as a victory, you'd think he'd now want to take advantage of it and really press his case for inclusion in the upcoming games. So for him to pull out citing he's not in the right frame of mind I find bizarre!Something's rotten here and we're not getting the full story, is Bale trapped? Is he Elvis to Barnett's Colonel? It would certainly tie into his personality as a quiet unassuming individual. Perhaps Barnett's pricing him out of moves to half-decent European clubs by demanding his wages are maintained in order for him to get his cut. It would certainly explain the China link, the only club prepared to UP Bale's wages is the one Barnett's linked to with his Stellar Group. Wherever Bale ends up, be it staying with RM or going elsewhere, I think he needs to get out from under Barnett's shadow asap. That's where the roots of his problems lie! Yes! The bolded is a point I've been trying to make albeit not nearly as succinctly. One minute he is prepared to sit out his contract, the next he wants to leave and can't bring himself to go out on the pitch. However where we disagree is that I'm not sure there is more to it other than Bale was not willing to earn less than 600k a week so was happy (as happy as you can be when not playing) to see his contract out, then the Chinese came calling offering him 1 million a week and Bale decided that sum of money was worth getting out of bed for now he is in a sulk because the vast riches have been taken away. I can't see it being about anything other than money personally. Bale wants the most that he can make and isn't motivated otherwise. I'm not sure his agent is the bad guy either. If he wanted his pockets filled surely he could have been agitating for a move long ago to United or whoever, yet he has always said that rumours were false and that he was staying in Madrid (meaning no pay day for the agent). He can't make Bale play anywhere, the player has to sign to agree the deal so I don't see how agreeing a move to China was purely the work of his agent.Anyway, I'm sure he is in the right frame of mind for a round of golf back in Spain. Good luck to him, but (and I don't care if he is Welsh, Ugandan or Outer-Mongolian, his heritage makes no difference to my opinion) a less than stellar attitude and a shocking waste of talent. My interpretation of the 'Bale is going nowhere' gesturing by his agent was that he was in fact saying that ' unless you pay him off, Bale is going nowhere'. Therefore an attempt to blackmail RM to pay him off to get him off their books. If RM had done that would then leave Bale to move to another club in Europe and a double pay-day for Barnett. It seems that this strategy backfired as the big clubs in Europe lost interest and / or weren't prepared to pay a transfer fee and high wages, therefore the only option for Barnett was to persuade him to go to China where he could take a slice of his £1m pw wages.
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Jul 30, 2019 22:00:37 GMT
Post by pendragon on Jul 30, 2019 22:00:37 GMT
As an aside, I knew Zidane would be unpopular on here but I'm surprised at how unpopular he is amongst neutrals. I mean, I've never liked him- sketchy disciplinary record crowned by that headbutt on Matarazzi (I think it was him) in the WC final which was a ridiculous thing to do. He just came across as a lairy arse as a player. But I am a bit shocked how he now seems to have a reputation as a bit of a see you next Tuesday. Great players often get looked upon favourably so it's surprising how many have taken offence at his public statements on Bale. I've read that even large sections of the Spanish media have turned on Zidane following his treatment of Bale, including the usually pro-Real publication, MARCA. Jesus Sanchez in particular, has been highly critical of Zidane's behaviour. The disastrous pre-season results and the disappointment over Hazard's performances have also allegedly added fuel to the fire. As an aside, I must say that I think Barnett's somewhat inflammatory statements isn't helping matters either. His rants that Bale has never had a relationship with Zidane for example feels unneccessary when Bale already seems to be winning the court of public opinion. Barnett could at least be more diplomatic about the situation, shall we say. Then again, there might be a strategy behind this.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 30, 2019 23:12:07 GMT
Just shows how bonkers their club is that Hazard is already being singled out for criticism!
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Jul 31, 2019 0:17:23 GMT
Post by pendragon on Jul 31, 2019 0:17:23 GMT
He was rumoured to have turned up to pre-season training 7 kilos overweight, which allegedly left Perez unimpressed and led to a bust-up between him and Zidane!
If only we could be flies on the wall!
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Jul 31, 2019 1:15:32 GMT
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Post by insertname on Jul 31, 2019 1:15:32 GMT
I don’t know how these idiots can be be paid so much money and be so unprofessional. If this was any normal walk of life you would be disciplined if you turned up to work in no fit state to do your job. Yet because these are multi-million pound assets they are coddled like precocious children with no repercussions.
It makes Daniel James attitude all the more remarkable. Truly a rare breed.
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Jul 31, 2019 8:18:56 GMT
Post by CrackityJones on Jul 31, 2019 8:18:56 GMT
Don't suppose anyone has a source for this latest 'rumour'?
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Jul 31, 2019 9:02:46 GMT
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Post by larslagerback on Jul 31, 2019 9:02:46 GMT
He was rumoured to have turned up to pre-season training 7 kilos overweight, which allegedly left Perez unimpressed and led to a bust-up between him and Zidane! If only we could be flies on the wall! That's over a stone on a guy who probably weights 10st, 7lb max. I'm calling bollocks on this one.
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Post by manulike on Jul 31, 2019 10:28:26 GMT
Don't suppose anyone has a source for this latest 'rumour'? All those Belgian waffles ;-)
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Jul 31, 2019 11:15:22 GMT
Post by dai on Jul 31, 2019 11:15:22 GMT
I don't think we know what exactly is going on. There are so many stories flying left, right and centre, it's just pure speculation as to what is happening behind the scenes.
Hopefully it'll all come out in the wash in a few weeks, but it's been one of the most bizarre transfer periods regarding a players' future.
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Post by CrackityJones on Jul 31, 2019 11:32:23 GMT
Some people are clearly bored during the close season. Fear not, football will be back with a bang this weekend.
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Jul 31, 2019 12:09:26 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 31, 2019 12:09:26 GMT
I think the amount of stories coming out at the moment is just a testament to Real Madrid as a club at the moment. Not to say that Bale is completely faultless, but how can a club of this size be in this much disarray?
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Post by 1gwaunview on Jul 31, 2019 15:16:21 GMT
I think the amount of stories coming out at the moment is just a testament to Real Madrid as a club at the moment. Not to say that Bale is completely faultless, but how can a club of this size be in this much disarray? Seems to be a rudderless club at the moment. President, coach and players all over the place with the fans a strange bunch of critical individuals, carrying an overbearing sense of entitlement. Hope Gareth can extricate himself from this nightmare a.s.a.p.
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