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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 24, 2023 11:47:55 GMT
Would still hope that he could play a deeper role for us. Would help with his longevity and tie in with where our greatest need is. (Plenty of attacking mids). Hasn't worked well when tried thus far, but still think he could be more than capable in that role. From what I've seen he really doesn't suit playing deeper, he needs the freedom to pick up space without leaving the inevitable space in behind which would easily be exploited at that level. I also don't think he really has the mobility to suit being in there. As you've said previously it just hasn't worked, maybe better to stick with the tried and tested. (Although with Brooks and Wilson staking a claim is he guarenteed to start?) He's better and more mobile than both. Ramsey's engine has always been a big part of his game.
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Post by abercymru on Sept 24, 2023 13:33:11 GMT
Not in the Cardiff squad again today, presume it's just the calf strain he seemed to have at the end of the win against Swansea, but haven't seen any more info about it. Hopefully nothing serious.
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Post by zserty on Sept 24, 2023 15:43:14 GMT
From what I've seen he really doesn't suit playing deeper, he needs the freedom to pick up space without leaving the inevitable space in behind which would easily be exploited at that level. I also don't think he really has the mobility to suit being in there. As you've said previously it just hasn't worked, maybe better to stick with the tried and tested. (Although with Brooks and Wilson staking a claim is he guarenteed to start?) He's better and more mobile than both. Ramsey's engine has always been a big part of his game. Im not sure that is true now though, he is fantastic on the ball and his movement to find spaces where he can influence further up the pitch is still very good though. In my opinion he has definitely lost a yard or two, he is playing more than he has in years though so hopefully he is able to last an 80/90 minutes for us.
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Post by hooky on Sept 24, 2023 16:05:32 GMT
The great thing is he still loves football. If he can modify his game then he could last another 2-3 years
By contrast, it looked like Bale got fed up with football (and his injuries) and was just holding on to help his country achieve
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 28, 2023 13:47:54 GMT
Ramsey has a knee injury and will be out for at least three weeks, making him a serious doubt for the Croatia game
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Post by marsvolta on Sept 28, 2023 13:51:55 GMT
Conspiracy theorists incoming in 5….4….3…
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 28, 2023 14:05:44 GMT
Conspiracy theorists incoming in 5….4….3… He's clearly avoiding the squad because he wants to play in Cardiff's game against Blackburn!
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Post by iot on Sept 28, 2023 15:10:13 GMT
Damn, big loss. The situation's been a really strange one. He came off after 50mins against Latvia but suggested he wasn't injured, and just wanted to avoid the rough treatment in preparation for the derby game. He then played almost all of the derby game, but then came off after feeling something. Then he misses the next two games - rested for the first game before pulling out with illness in the second one. Lot of BS going on there I think. Probably a strain picked up against Latvia, aggravated against Swansea, and kept him out of the next two games. Not sure why they've been so hush hush about it
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Post by zserty on Sept 28, 2023 16:58:37 GMT
It might sound harsh but this is the exact reason i didn't think he should be captain. He just doesn't play enough minutes.
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Post by aberbeeg on Sept 28, 2023 17:57:56 GMT
He’s missed the last 3 Cardiff games and will miss the next 3 at least.
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 28, 2023 20:51:10 GMT
It might sound harsh but this is the exact reason i didn't think he should be captain. He just doesn't play enough minutes. He hasn't missed a qualifier since September 2021, is our most senior player and was captain and vice-captain previously.
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Post by zserty on Sept 28, 2023 21:27:52 GMT
It might sound harsh but this is the exact reason i didn't think he should be captain. He just doesn't play enough minutes. He hasn't missed a qualifier since September 2021, is our most senior player and was captain and vice-captain previously. I just don't think he is up to it, your captain should be playing near enough every game 90 minutes. Given his injury record and the fact he is now 32 its only heading one direction.
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Post by lawthom on Oct 1, 2023 10:38:31 GMT
Bulut saying he’s ruptured a tendon, not sure where this 3 weeks is coming from. If he has, that’s certain to be a surgical repair and we’ll be lucky to see him again before March
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 1, 2023 11:19:51 GMT
It might sound harsh but this is the exact reason i didn't think he should be captain. He just doesn't play enough minutes. Well the captaincy will go to Davies in Ramsey's absence anyway, so if we just gave Davies the captaincy full time would that really improve things? I doubt it. Ramsey captain when he's available, Davies when he's not
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Post by iot on Oct 5, 2023 13:54:03 GMT
The whole communications regarding Ramsey's injury continues to mystify. Cardiff's comms on this has been all over the place, and Page's too by the looks of it. Page said yesterday that he was confident Ramsey would be back for the November games, but today Bulut seems to have ruled him out of all remaining qualifiers with Ramsey not expected to return until late Nov / early Dec at the earliest. Getting 7 points from the remaining 3 games was always going to be a massive challenge, and now we've lost by far our highest quality player.
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Post by jbt95 on Oct 5, 2023 14:35:57 GMT
It might sound harsh but this is the exact reason i didn't think he should be captain. He just doesn't play enough minutes. He hasn't missed a qualifier since September 2021, is our most senior player and was captain and vice-captain previously. We didn’t play any qualifiers in 2020 or 2022. He missed 6.5 out of 8 in 2019. People thinking he will get 100 caps are seriously deluded.
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Post by quetzal on Oct 6, 2023 3:08:03 GMT
I love Rambo but I thought he was bloody awful when we beat Ukraine in the play off. At this stage of his career it’s not a massive loss.
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Post by abercymru on Oct 6, 2023 6:30:26 GMT
I love Rambo but I thought he was bloody awful when we beat Ukraine in the play off. At this stage of his career it’s not a massive loss. You thought he played awful in one game 16 months ago and it isn't a big loss? Not sure what that game has to do with it, but OK. He's been in great form this season and is the best, or at very least one of the best players we have. Massive loss.
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Post by jbt95 on Oct 6, 2023 7:45:11 GMT
Ramsey missing makes Page’s job a lot easier.
Usual keeper, back 5. Ampadu and J James midfield. Kieffer up front with Wilson & James on the wings.
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Post by quetzal on Oct 6, 2023 7:46:28 GMT
I love Rambo but I thought he was bloody awful when we beat Ukraine in the play off. At this stage of his career it’s not a massive loss. You thought he played awful in one game 16 months ago and it isn't a big loss? Not sure what that game has to do with it, but OK. He's been in great form this season and is the best, or at very least one of the best players we have. Massive loss. No not one game. I thought he was completely off the pace at the World Cup too! Sorry but we’ve got to crack on. We’ll miss Rambo but not the end of the world.
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Post by iot on Oct 6, 2023 9:52:40 GMT
You thought he played awful in one game 16 months ago and it isn't a big loss? Not sure what that game has to do with it, but OK. He's been in great form this season and is the best, or at very least one of the best players we have. Massive loss. No not one game. I thought he was completely off the pace at the World Cup too! Sorry but we’ve got to crack on. We’ll miss Rambo but not the end of the world. You seem to be a bit behind the curve on this. Yes, he had a poor world cup (as did the rest of the squad), but he was fantastic in our last match and been great for Cardiff. Without him, I'm just concerned we lack the quality - we need his sprinkle of stardust to make the difference in these last 3 games. It's a massive loss.
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Post by jbt95 on Oct 6, 2023 11:18:55 GMT
he was fantastic in our last matchl. Our last game? In which he came off very early into the second half. I like Ramsey but he’s not a big a miss as people are making out imo.
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Post by flutterdinho on Oct 6, 2023 11:30:27 GMT
Clearly some differing opinions here on what is our greatest ever central midfielder.
Like iot has said, we need his stardust, Ampadu and James are not the same type of players. Neither are Levitt and Sheehan off the bench. Couple that with inconsistent wingers / inside forwards, there's a distinct lack of creativity. It's as simple as that.
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Post by CrackityJones on Oct 6, 2023 11:34:19 GMT
Im sure Croatia, Armenia and Turkey are all pleased Ramsey is out anyway
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Post by iot on Oct 6, 2023 11:41:58 GMT
he was fantastic in our last matchl. Our last game? In which he came off very early into the second half. I like Ramsey but he’s not a big a miss as people are making out imo. Yes, that's the one, which coincided with us struggling in midfield and losing control for large periods of the second half. Compare that with the first half where we were excellent for the first 35mins with Ramsey on top form. That game perfectly demonstrates why he's going to be such a miss.
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Post by quetzal on Oct 6, 2023 12:47:08 GMT
I was just trying to be positive and think that we can go and get a few results. But obviously a few on here who believe the sky is now falling in.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 8, 2023 9:47:21 GMT
Our last game? In which he came off very early into the second half. I like Ramsey but he’s not a big a miss as people are making out imo. Yes, that's the one, which coincided with us struggling in midfield and losing control for large periods of the second half. Compare that with the first half where we were excellent for the first 35mins with Ramsey on top form. That game perfectly demonstrates why he's going to be such a miss. The Latvia game is going to be nothing like the Croatia game and we will have far less of the ball, which for me makes Ramsey less of a miss than someone like Dan James or Brennan Johnson would be
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 8, 2023 10:50:15 GMT
Yes, that's the one, which coincided with us struggling in midfield and losing control for large periods of the second half. Compare that with the first half where we were excellent for the first 35mins with Ramsey on top form. That game perfectly demonstrates why he's going to be such a miss. The Latvia game is going to be nothing like the Croatia game and we will have far less of the ball, which for me makes Ramsey less of a miss than someone like Dan James or Brennan Johnson would be Someone like Ramsey is especially important in games where you don't see much of the ball as you need someone who can actually keep it and use it effectively when we do have the ball. There's more to counter attacking an sitting back than just pace
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Post by jbt95 on Oct 8, 2023 10:59:15 GMT
Our last game? In which he came off very early into the second half. I like Ramsey but he’s not a big a miss as people are making out imo. Yes, that's the one, which coincided with us struggling in midfield and losing control for large periods of the second half. Compare that with the first half where we were excellent for the first 35mins with Ramsey on top form. That game perfectly demonstrates why he's going to be such a miss. Well Ramsey didn’t play v Croatia at all in 2019 and was off the pitch when we equalised out in Split.
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Post by iot on Oct 8, 2023 12:48:01 GMT
Yes, that's the one, which coincided with us struggling in midfield and losing control for large periods of the second half. Compare that with the first half where we were excellent for the first 35mins with Ramsey on top form. That game perfectly demonstrates why he's going to be such a miss. The Latvia game is going to be nothing like the Croatia game and we will have far less of the ball, which for me makes Ramsey less of a miss than someone like Dan James or Brennan Johnson would be The point you're missing, imo, is how good Ramsey is off the ball. You can always rely on him to put in a massive shift - he's a great defensive 10 because he has such a high workrate. That can certainly not be said for the likes of Johnson and Brooks. You can't carry any players when there's already a massive gulf in quality, and you never get that with Ramsey.
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