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Post by flynnfan on Dec 9, 2010 20:11:59 GMT
news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/league_of_wales/9274410.stmWhat do you think? Totally bizarre if you ask me. why can't these fools just go ahead and appoint a proven international manager like Lagerbäck? And how much of OUR money are they prepared to spend to prize him away from Sheffield Utd?! I don't want money I've put into the FAW (membership, tickets, merch etc) just going straight into the hands of an English football club. And especially not to land a manager who's totally unproven. I was beginning to have some faith that the FAW would finally do the sensible thing and appoint Lagerbäck. Now I'm depressed again...
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Post by quetzal on Dec 9, 2010 20:33:35 GMT
Unless they want him on a #2 basis because he's about to get sacked from Sheff U. I think it might be a Flynn/Speed package and I think Sheff U have tipped off the FAW that Speed is about to get sacked and because Speed is such a nice Guy Sheff U want to soften the blow for him. Who Knows?  |
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Post by welsho on Dec 9, 2010 21:59:42 GMT
Don't think it'll be as a no 2, wouldn't have got this much attention. Pretty amateur of FAW to let this go out - anyone surprised? - wonder what lagerboy thinks of it? Seems like two fingers up to him, which would be a shame. That said, he's head and shoulders above the likes of Rush, Hartson and Saunders. Don't think Blades' poor showing so far is enough to judge him on, wouldn't be wholly against it, gamble bit like Sparky was, but it' just another example of the ineptitude of those who run our game
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Post by marsvolta on Dec 9, 2010 22:22:30 GMT
this is a strange one as i'd be very surprised if the FAW were willing to stump up compo to sheff utd.he'd obviously have been a huge favorite for the post if he hadnt got the sheff utd job.
if the interviews did take place in the last few days and theyve decided to approach sheef utd for speed it suggests that no-one impressed at interview.
maybe speed let it known to someone in welsh football that he was interested.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 22:26:08 GMT
This is a ****ing disgrace!
Its so transparently obvious what the FAW are up to. They could not give a toss about suitability and credentials, they are only after a man with a name that will be familiar to all the rugger bugger and fair weather fans.
Why oh why when you have a candidate like Lagerback would you suddenly switch AFTER THE FLAMING INTERVIEWS HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED to a total rookie.
These people cannot be trusted to govern. The English FA think they have problems with FIFA? Well I reckon there is more chance of turning Jack Warner straight then there is getting reform in the FAW. They are a disgrace, an absolute disgrace.
For what its worth I agree with Quetzal, Sheff United have a new chairman and Speed is surplus to requirements so they have tipped off the FAW. And now he is second favourite.
I totally echo the other sentiments, what must Lagerback think? How amateurish are the FAW. There is no way they could come out of this looking good as even if they had kept it hush hush until the 17th when they would surprisingly unveil Speed we would still have known who was invited for interview and Speed wasnt on that list.
A bunch of rank amateurs. Im infuriated at their incompetence and lack of professionalism.
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Post by welsho on Dec 9, 2010 22:28:56 GMT
Calm down Storm, you're not in Xmen now!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2010 22:31:58 GMT
Calm down Storm, you're not in Xmen now! ;D fair shout! lol Seriously though, it makes me so mad precisely because it makes no sense. How do they come up with these mystifying decisions? I was laughing earlier at how badly Newcastle are being run under Ashley, with Pardew's appointment being a total joke. But this latest stroke by the FAW has arguably trumped that. |
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Post by welsho on Dec 9, 2010 22:41:41 GMT
Calm down Storm, you're not in Xmen now! ;D fair shout! lol Seriously though, it makes me so mad precisely because it makes no sense. How do they come up with these mystifying decisions? I was laughing earlier at how badly Newcastle are being run under Ashley, with Pardew's appointment being a total joke. But this latest stroke by the FAW has arguably trumped that. True enough |
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Post by welshwizard79 on Dec 9, 2010 22:46:12 GMT
This would be a step backwards and totally sum up the faw. Speed has won 6 out of 17 games in his first managers job and we have a proven international manager with a good track record waiting to be offered the job. I hope speed keeps his job and stays away from the interview process!
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Post by bismircher on Dec 10, 2010 0:11:13 GMT
I can't think of any buisness organisation that would interview a decent number of candidates,make a short list interview the short list again then approach someone who didn't apply for the job in the first place what a load of bollocks
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Post by scoop76 on Dec 10, 2010 0:41:36 GMT
Don't think it'll be as a no 2, wouldn't have got this much attention. Pretty amateur of FAW to let this go out - anyone surprised? - wonder what lagerboy thinks of it? Seems like two fingers up to him, which would be a shame. That said, he's head and shoulders above the likes of Rush, Hartson and Saunders. Don't think Blades' poor showing so far is enough to judge him on, wouldn't be wholly against it, gamble bit like Sparky was, but it' just another example of the ineptitude of those who run our game I assume this got out because of the significant sums that were placed on Speed being the next Wales manager yesterday, meaning his odds tumbling to 2/1. That in turn alerted journalists in Wales, Sheffield and at Sky. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 1:44:11 GMT
Don't think it'll be as a no 2, wouldn't have got this much attention. Pretty amateur of FAW to let this go out - anyone surprised? - wonder what lagerboy thinks of it? Seems like two fingers up to him, which would be a shame. That said, he's head and shoulders above the likes of Rush, Hartson and Saunders. Don't think Blades' poor showing so far is enough to judge him on, wouldn't be wholly against it, gamble bit like Sparky was, but it' just another example of the ineptitude of those who run our game I assume this got out because of the significant sums that were placed on Speed being the next Wales manager yesterday, meaning his odds tumbling to 2/1. That in turn alerted journalists in Wales, Sheffield and at Sky. Is this another 'Jackett incident'? I was under the impression that odds tumbled because of good insider info leading to large sums being bet, but it didnt work out that way in Jacketts case. Although the odds fall is bigger with Speed. Maybe its best then to wait and see what happens if its merely the staking of money that has put Speed in the frame. Still wouldnt put it past the FAW though, total bunch of clowns. |
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Post by BA Baracus on Dec 10, 2010 9:03:37 GMT
A bit strange for the FAW to interview a load of people and then put feelers out for other prospects. How will the interviewed candidates feel about that? Second best I bet. But then that's football.
That said, I doubt going for Speed is an attempt to keep egg-chasers happy as mentioned above. More realistic is that it's an attempt to keep the likes of Bellamy happy!! If that's the case at all.
I'm in favour of Speed getting the job. The main problems he's facing at Bramall Lane is attempting to get the team to play a decent passing game rather than the clogging long-ball style that brought them success under Warnock.
He's had to do that while faced with injuries and a board desperate to cut its cloth according to Championship budgets now that its parachute payments and the Tevez cash have run out.
He's a proud Welshman and I think he could do us a decent job.
PS: This move by the FAW is nowhere near as bad as the Hughton sacking.
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Post by saints19 on Dec 10, 2010 9:54:27 GMT
According to Speed this is all hot air.
However I am deeply worried about the apparent lack of intelligence amongst the FAW's hierarchy if they think a rookie like Speed is a better answer to our woes than a man who has led Sweden to five successive tournaments.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2010 10:33:57 GMT
If there is any truth in this, it is nonsensical.
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Post by georgetm1 on Dec 10, 2010 10:36:09 GMT
First Giggs then Speed. I think its the papers making up stories because nothing is happening in the sporting world at the moment. Surely the FAW can't be this stupid, can they? Maybe they need to release a press statement to clear it up because some of these stories are making them look ridiculous. And judging by there past behaviour we don't know if they are true or not.
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Post by bellamyforever on Dec 10, 2010 11:02:11 GMT
be a great appointment, love gary speed
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Post by squatter1 on Dec 10, 2010 11:52:52 GMT
Gary Speed and Bryan Flynn double header for me. Best option available by far.
Flynn is rated by all the U21s who are now the mainstays of the squad - see the latest Bale interview for examples. Forget the 'he didnt make a stand over Bellamy' stuff, that said more about Bellamy than Flynn. And Speed is rated by those within the game - was rated high enough by both Sheff Utd and Swansea to want him as manager. It's too easy to write a rookie manager off after a bad start, but that's no easy job at Sheff Utd, and he will bring lessons learned with him as a no2. I'm sure you could dig up plenty of examples of top managers whose first few months in the job didnt go so well.
And best of all, they are both WELSH, which would seem appropriate for a WALES team.
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Post by BA Baracus on Dec 10, 2010 13:50:19 GMT
First Giggs then Speed. I think its the papers making up stories because nothing is happening in the sporting world at the moment. Surely the FAW can't be this stupid, can they? Maybe they need to release a press statement to clear it up because some of these stories are making them look ridiculous. And judging by there past behaviour we don't know if they are true or not. If I were a sports reporter on a national and it was a slow news day, trust me, Wales and Sheffield United wouldn't be the two teams I'd pick in order to concoct a cauldron of sh*te... you may not have noticed, but neither are big sellers! |
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Post by youngdragon on Dec 10, 2010 14:05:19 GMT
Maybe thats what the FAW were doing yesturday that was so important that they had to cancel a press conferance promoting our u21 Championship bid
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Post by flynnfan on Dec 10, 2010 20:56:20 GMT
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Post by llannerch on Dec 10, 2010 21:38:21 GMT
I can't think of any buisness organisation that would interview a decent number of candidates,make a short list interview the short list again then approach someone who didn't apply for the job in the first place what a load of bollocks The WRU did it in 2004 when they appointed Mike Ruddock and that didn't turn out too bad. If the interviewees haven't given good enough interviews then it is common practice to go back to advert, or in this context, canvas other candidates. It's no big deal. |
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Post by welshposh on Dec 10, 2010 21:52:41 GMT
I can't think of any buisness organisation that would interview a decent number of candidates,make a short list interview the short list again then approach someone who didn't apply for the job in the first place what a load of bollocks The WRU did it in 2004 when they appointed Mike Ruddock and that didn't turn out too bad. If the interviewees haven't given good enough interviews then it is common practice to go back to advert, or in this context, canvas other candidates. It's no big deal. Only if you ignore the way that player power got him removed from his job and then the national captain utterly embarrassed himself on scrum v. I liked Ruddock but the grand slam appears to have been down to many other factors and staff members rather than just his influence. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2010 20:43:28 GMT
I am using my mobile so cannot check the link. But if, IF the gist of this is that the faw will only pay a salary of 175k yet have the bunce to pay compo of 1 million, & this turns out to be true, then i have had it with welsh football & will forget it from now on. The faw are holding out on us big time, they have resources- they just refuse to use them for the betterment of the team. |
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Post by Tim P on Dec 11, 2010 21:56:27 GMT
there is no way that the FAW will be paying ANYWHERE NEAR one million pounds.
it looks like that this is happening. so...
Speed's Project:
+ the players will be on his side.
+ his commitment cannot be questioned - there is no way that coleman would have left coventry for us.
+ he seems to have a tough edge to him - certainly more so than say, flynn.
+ he is a 'true' premier league player - he 'gets' the style that our players are used to, and will also know what kind of changing room he needs to cultivate.
+ bellamy will be cool.
- the sheffield utd Project has not started well - they almost can't hide their delight at our approach.
- linked to his bad start, i'm not sure what he can bring tactically, both in terms of set up and during the game. this is what cost us during 2004 - will he be able to avoid the mistakes that hughes made? the backroom he brings in with him is pretty vital.
either way, i'm Welsh and i follow my team. Viva the Speed Project!
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Post by perthdragon on Dec 12, 2010 1:36:29 GMT
there is no way that the FAW will be paying ANYWHERE NEAR one million pounds. it looks like that this is happening. so... Speed's Project: + the players will be on his side. + his commitment cannot be questioned - there is no way that coleman would have left coventry for us. + he seems to have a tough edge to him - certainly more so than say, flynn. + he is a 'true' premier league player - he 'gets' the style that our players are used to, and will also know what kind of changing room he needs to cultivate. + bellamy will be cool. - the sheffield utd Project has not started well - they almost can't hide their delight at our approach. - linked to his bad start, i'm not sure what he can bring tactically, both in terms of set up and during the game. this is what cost us during 2004 - will he be able to avoid the mistakes that hughes made? the backroom he brings in with him is pretty vital. either way, i'm Welsh and i follow my team. Viva the Speed Project! Good Post. Whilst it is a massive insult to Flynn and the other candidates, Speed will be someone who will command the respect of the players (hasn't he played more Premiership games than any other outfield player???) He was never going to turn Sheffield Utd into a good footballing team overnight so we can't read too much into the start he has had there. If Speed can make half as much impact as Hughes did in terms of raising professionalism etc then we'll make good progress. As you say, if he gets the gig then I'll support him. I'll think that the FAW are a shambles but that won't be anything new - we've all known that for years. |
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Post by saints19 on Dec 12, 2010 1:43:35 GMT
For goodness' sake, are we really so boneheadedly stupid as to pay £1m plus to appoint a rookie like Speed when there are at least three better candidates, all of whom would be cheaper? The FAW's strategy is totally baffling, unless this Speed thing is all just a decoy to get Lagerback to change some of his demands (let's hope so).
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Post by perthdragon on Dec 12, 2010 9:07:08 GMT
if we end up paying for him then yes, it is incredibly foolish. I doubt that the FAW are playing the media in order to influence Lagerback -that would be way too clever for them.
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Post by llannerch on Dec 12, 2010 9:19:01 GMT
Hey Trendy, it's completely irrelevant to this thread but mentioning 2004 and Speed in the same post reminded me how much a colossus Speed was in the second leg vs Russia. His best game for Wales and a a true captain's performance
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