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Post by sleepy on Nov 20, 2019 0:19:34 GMT
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Post by pendragon on Nov 20, 2019 1:06:03 GMT
So, the first few codes will be emailed to us between 4th and 18th December.
So exciting! Would also be nice to meet some of you next summer!
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Post by manulike on Nov 20, 2019 1:13:55 GMT
Well done, sleepy - beat me to it ;-))
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Post by zombienation on Nov 20, 2019 7:11:26 GMT
The Red Wall members will be sent an access code to apply for tickets through the Wales fans’ portal. Tickets available through this portal will be sold by UEFA on a first come first served basis. The FAW will not have an allocation to sell to fans. We will stagger the sending out of access codes based on how many loyalty points supporters have (the exact dates supporters can expect to receive their access codes will be confirmed in the next few days). The points system we have in place considers memberships, tournament/campaign tickets, and away matches across the 2018 World Cup qualifying campaign, the 2019 UEFA Nations League, and the Euro 2020 qualifying campaign. Any away friendlies played across this period will also be taken into account. Points will be awarded as follows: 2018 World Cup membership – 3 points 2018-20 Red Wall Membership – 3 points 2018 World Cup Tournament Ticket – 5 points 2018-20 Red Wall Campaign Ticket (Purchased before UEFA Nations League) – 8 points 2018-20 Red Wall Campaign Ticket (Purchased after UEFA Nations League) – 5 points Each of the last 16 away match tickets – 2 points The maximum number of points a member can have is 51. The 16 away matches taken into consideration are: Azerbaijan v Wales (16.11.2019) Slovakia v Wales (10.10.2019) Hungary v Wales (11.06.2019) Croatia v Wales (08.06.2019) Albania v Wales (20.12.2018) Rep. of Ireland v Wales (16.10.2018) Denmark v Wales (09.09.2018) Mexico v Wales (28.05.2018) China Cup – Wales v Uruguay (26.03.2018) China Cup – China v Wales (22.03.2018) France v Wales (10.11.2017) Georgia v Wales (06.10.2017) Moldova v Wales (05.09.2017) Serbia v Wales (11.06.2017) Rep. of Ireland v Wales (24.03.2017) Austria v Wales (06.10.2016) The portal will open on Wednesday 4th December, following the draw on Saturday 30th November. Subject to availability, the portal will close on 18th December. The UEFA ticketing portal is at www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020/ticketing/#/. We would strongly encourage supporters to create an account before the Wales fans’ portal opens.
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Post by zombienation on Nov 20, 2019 7:19:46 GMT
By my calculations, I have 37 out of a maximum of 51 points (memberships and tournament tickets for both campaigns, and 9 away matches). Surely that will be enough to get a ticket for all matches? Does anyone have an idea of the possible number of fans above a certain threshold e.g. what would be the threshold to be in the top 5,000 or 10,000?
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Post by erasedcitizen on Nov 20, 2019 7:41:16 GMT
45 points here. Expecting the first stage to get a pick of what they want.
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Post by Counting Crows on Nov 20, 2019 8:08:30 GMT
51 😍
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Post by eppingblue1 on Nov 20, 2019 8:09:30 GMT
I'm down to a measly 21 so got very little chance of tickets for Copenhagen particularly if UEFA adopt their 2 tickets each policy as they did last time. My own fault for letting my loyalty slip at a time when it was clear interest was rising. Not getting a tournament ticket for these qualifiers and the nations league was a clear mistake but it was absolutely essential that home games started to count towards loyalty. Here's hoping for no more than a single game in Copenhagen.
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Post by daearegwr on Nov 20, 2019 8:35:39 GMT
Will they do 'follow your team' tickets like last time? They were great
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Post by cymroircarn on Nov 20, 2019 9:21:18 GMT
I'm down to a measly 21 so got very little chance of tickets for Copenhagen particularly if UEFA adopt their 2 tickets each policy as they did last time. My own fault for letting my loyalty slip at a time when it was clear interest was rising. Not getting a tournament ticket for these qualifiers and the nations league was a clear mistake but it was absolutely essential that home games started to count towards loyalty. Here's hoping for no more than a single game in Copenhagen. Is Copenhagen confirmed? Would the game against Denmark only be the difficult one for tickets? The only benefit of possibly playing in Baku is the availability of tickets
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Post by eppingblue1 on Nov 20, 2019 9:51:09 GMT
I'm down to a measly 21 so got very little chance of tickets for Copenhagen particularly if UEFA adopt their 2 tickets each policy as they did last time. My own fault for letting my loyalty slip at a time when it was clear interest was rising. Not getting a tournament ticket for these qualifiers and the nations league was a clear mistake but it was absolutely essential that home games started to count towards loyalty. Here's hoping for no more than a single game in Copenhagen. Is Copenhagen confirmed? Would the game against Denmark only be the difficult one for tickets? The only benefit of possibly playing in Baku is the availability of tickets No its not confirmed. Its a 50 / 50 chance we play in that group and then a 50 / 50 chance we play 1 or 2 games there ( depends on who hosts the Denmark / Russia game which will be drawn. We'll get nearly double the allocation in St Petersburg, Baku and Rome so there's more chance of tickets. I'm still not completely convinced that we couldn't end up in the Budapest or Bucharest groups and possibly not knowing which until after the play offs. There's 4 host cities on 3 play off pathways, Ireland in Dublin is fixed as I think is Scotland in Glasgow. But one of Budapest or Bucharest will free up when the draw for the play offs is made. The play off pathway in the bottom group can play anywhere except that Kosovo are a bit restricted.
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Post by rioonamazy on Nov 20, 2019 10:06:04 GMT
This is why FAW need to step in during qualifiers... i went to croatia Stage 2 but couldnt get a ticket because of the osijek debacle and measly allocation. 2 points lost for me.
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Post by zombienation on Nov 20, 2019 10:14:42 GMT
No, Copenhagen isn't confirmed. There is a 50% chance we will play there. The draw on 30 November will effectively be a straight draw between us and Finland for the 4th seed spot in Groups A (Rome/Baku) and B (Copenhagen/St. Petersburg).
Some of my logical, unscientific thoughts on the ticket situation are as follows. Of the 16 away games that count, no more than 2,000 would have attended 8 or more (based on the away attendances at those matches off the top of my head). Assuming that all the away regulars had memberships and tournament tickets for the past two campaigns, this would leave no more than 2,000 with 35+ points. In fact, I might be overestimating here and it could be nearer to the 1,500 mark.
Moving further down the ladder, and it gets more difficult to estimate with any accuracy, I reckon that the number of fans with 23+ points (e.g. both memberships, both tournament tickets and just 2 away games) would not be greater than 5,000.
If we're talking of a 10,000 allocation, that probably wouldn't even require a single away game. It would suffice to have the two memberships and two tournament tickets (19 points) at most.
Basically, anyone who has watched Wales (and paid for their own ticket through an FAW membership number) over the past couple of years should be fine for a ticket for most group games other than Copenhagen.
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Post by Pez on Nov 20, 2019 10:15:46 GMT
43 points for me.
Very fair by FAW, well played.
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Post by daearegwr on Nov 20, 2019 10:25:28 GMT
No, Copenhagen isn't confirmed. There is a 50% chance we will play there. The draw on 30 November will effectively be a straight draw between us and Finland for the 4th seed spot in Groups A (Rome/Baku) and B (Copenhagen/St. Petersburg). Some of my logical, unscientific thoughts on the ticket situation are as follows. Of the 16 away games that count, no more than 2,000 would have attended 8 or more (based on the away attendances at those matches off the top of my head). Assuming that all the away regulars had memberships and tournament tickets for the past two campaigns, this would leave no more than 2,000 with 35+ points. In fact, I might be overestimating here and it could be nearer to the 1,500 mark. Moving further down the ladder, and it gets more difficult to estimate with any accuracy, I reckon that the number of fans with 23+ points (e.g. both memberships, both tournament tickets and just 2 away games) would not be greater than 5,000. If we're talking of a 10,000 allocation, that probably wouldn't even require a single away game. It would suffice to have the two memberships and two tournament tickets (19 points) at most. Basically, anyone who has watched Wales (and paid for their own ticket through an FAW membership number) over the past couple of years should be fine for a ticket for most group games other than Copenhagen. It's worth remembering that applicants can buy two tickets each (well you could for Euro 2016) so that will eat into the allocation as I imagine most people would do that. But if we end up in the bigger stadiums I agree that almost everyone who has done a handful of away games should get tickets
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Post by Pez on Nov 20, 2019 10:26:42 GMT
Is Copenhagen confirmed? Would the game against Denmark only be the difficult one for tickets? The only benefit of possibly playing in Baku is the availability of tickets No its not confirmed. Its a 50 / 50 chance we play in that group and then a 50 / 50 chance we play 1 or 2 games there ( depends on who hosts the Denmark / Russia game which will be drawn. We'll get nearly double the allocation in St Petersburg, Baku and Rome so there's more chance of tickets. I'm still not completely convinced that we couldn't end up in the Budapest or Bucharest groups and possibly not knowing which until after the play offs. There's 4 host cities on 3 play off pathways, Ireland in Dublin is fixed as I think is Scotland in Glasgow. But one of Budapest or Bucharest will free up when the draw for the play offs is made. The play off pathway in the bottom group can play anywhere except that Kosovo are a bit restricted. Am i right in saying if we are in the Rome/Baku group that we will have 2 games in Baku and 1 in Rome as we would be playing Italy in the opening game as they play the 4th seed team first?
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Post by cadno on Nov 20, 2019 10:31:21 GMT
43 points for me. Very fair by FAW, well played. Me too.
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Post by cymroircarn on Nov 20, 2019 10:37:24 GMT
No its not confirmed. Its a 50 / 50 chance we play in that group and then a 50 / 50 chance we play 1 or 2 games there ( depends on who hosts the Denmark / Russia game which will be drawn. We'll get nearly double the allocation in St Petersburg, Baku and Rome so there's more chance of tickets. I'm still not completely convinced that we couldn't end up in the Budapest or Bucharest groups and possibly not knowing which until after the play offs. There's 4 host cities on 3 play off pathways, Ireland in Dublin is fixed as I think is Scotland in Glasgow. But one of Budapest or Bucharest will free up when the draw for the play offs is made. The play off pathway in the bottom group can play anywhere except that Kosovo are a bit restricted. Am i right in saying if we are in the Rome/Baku group that we will have 2 games in Baku and 1 in Rome as we would be playing Italy in the opening game as they play the 4th seed team first? I don’t think so. Sure I read elsewhere that is pot positions and those are to be drawn separately to seeding So just because we are 4th seed does not mean we will be in that position in the group with respect to fixtures
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Post by superunknown on Nov 20, 2019 10:42:11 GMT
Will it be possible to get tournament tickets for this does anyone know?
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Post by bringbackelmo on Nov 20, 2019 11:34:58 GMT
I'm down to a measly 21 so got very little chance of tickets for Copenhagen particularly if UEFA adopt their 2 tickets each policy as they did last time. My own fault for letting my loyalty slip at a time when it was clear interest was rising. Not getting a tournament ticket for these qualifiers and the nations league was a clear mistake but it was absolutely essential that home games started to count towards loyalty. Here's hoping for no more than a single game in Copenhagen. In a similar boat to you but with even fewer points. With a newborn baby and living in London I didn't go from a tournament ticket this time and aways have been out of the question for a while. Bit gutted but will see what happens. Anyone got a vague idea what allocations will be like?
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Post by jono on Nov 20, 2019 11:37:53 GMT
I'm down to a measly 21 so got very little chance of tickets for Copenhagen particularly if UEFA adopt their 2 tickets each policy as they did last time. My own fault for letting my loyalty slip at a time when it was clear interest was rising. Not getting a tournament ticket for these qualifiers and the nations league was a clear mistake but it was absolutely essential that home games started to count towards loyalty. Here's hoping for no more than a single game in Copenhagen. In a similar boat to you but with even fewer points. With a newborn baby and living in London I didn't go from a tournament ticket this time and aways have been out of the question for a while. Bit gutted but will see what happens. Anyone got a vague idea what allocations will be like? All teams were allocated 16% of ground capacity last time which, is shocking really.
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 20, 2019 11:47:02 GMT
The benefit of Rome/Baku is the stadiums are massive. 16% in Rome would be 11,600 and Baku 11,000
Still should be far more than that though, 16% in Denmark would only be 6,000 which is shocking
Surely UEFA have to realise what makes these tournaments great is the fans?
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Post by bringbackelmo on Nov 20, 2019 11:51:55 GMT
The benefit of Rome/Baku is the stadiums are massive. 16% in Rome would be 11,600 and Baku 11,000 Still should be far more than that though, 16% in Denmark would only be 6,000 which is shocking Surely UEFA have to realise what makes these tournaments great is the fans?The tournament wouldn't be structured this way if that was the case. Imagine needing to go Baku - Rome - Baku. It's absurd! The costs are going to be astronomical.
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Post by eppingblue1 on Nov 20, 2019 12:06:13 GMT
The benefit of Rome/Baku is the stadiums are massive. 16% in Rome would be 11,600 and Baku 11,000 Still should be far more than that though, 16% in Denmark would only be 6,000 which is shocking Surely UEFA have to realise what makes these tournaments great is the fans?The tournament wouldn't be structured this way if that was the case. Imagine needing to go Baku - Rome - Baku. It's absurd! The costs are going to be astronomical. One team will have to do that as all Italy's games are in Rome. The team that play their middle game there will have to that. If they come 2nd they go to Amsterdam for the round of 16 and if they win that they're back to Baku for the quarters. So do you apply for a ticket for the quarter finals. If your in group A for instance you could end up in any one of the 4 locations. Munich, Rome, St Petersburg or Baku. I suspect who ever ends up in Baku for the quarters will end up with few supporters unless its Russia or Turkey.
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Post by latchyrhos on Nov 20, 2019 12:38:13 GMT
Excuse me if I've missed something here but I don't understand how we could get 5 points for the 2018 world cup tournament ticket or 3 points for 2018 world cup membership. Without those I reckon I'm on 31 and my Mrs is on 25
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Post by bringbackelmo on Nov 20, 2019 12:44:24 GMT
The tournament wouldn't be structured this way if that was the case. Imagine needing to go Baku - Rome - Baku. It's absurd! The costs are going to be astronomical. One team will have to do that as all Italy's games are in Rome. The team that play their middle game there will have to that. If they come 2nd they go to Amsterdam for the round of 16 and if they win that they're back to Baku for the quarters. So do you apply for a ticket for the quarter finals. If your in group A for instance you could end up in any one of the 4 locations. Munich, Rome, St Petersburg or Baku. I suspect who ever ends up in Baku for the quarters will end up with few supporters unless its Russia or Turkey. Exactly, it's crazy, not even like you could do it by road very conceivably, like you could if it was spread across western Europe. A real shame.
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Post by bleddccfc on Nov 20, 2019 14:16:14 GMT
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Post by rico on Nov 20, 2019 14:27:00 GMT
Excuse me if I've missed something here but I don't understand how we could get 5 points for the 2018 world cup tournament ticket or 3 points for 2018 world cup membership. Without those I reckon I'm on 31 and my Mrs is on 25 Some people might have just the membership (to access away tickets) but not have tournament tickets for the home games. Not 100% what the question you're asking is though!
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Post by helipad138 on Nov 20, 2019 17:11:01 GMT
Looking back at the number of members eligible for each stage of tickets for the Azerbaijan away game, the number of members with each number of aways is (this is based on 14 of the 16 - doesn't include Azerbaijan or Slovakia) 9+ 1100 8 140 7 188 6 308 5 355 4 386 3 511 2 814 1 1569
So around 5400 with at least one away. If they all had maximum home points, that's roughly the number of members with 21 points or more. I think.
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 20, 2019 17:43:21 GMT
No, Copenhagen isn't confirmed. There is a 50% chance we will play there. The draw on 30 November will effectively be a straight draw between us and Finland for the 4th seed spot in Groups A (Rome/Baku) and B (Copenhagen/St. Petersburg). Some of my logical, unscientific thoughts on the ticket situation are as follows. Of the 16 away games that count, no more than 2,000 would have attended 8 or more (based on the away attendances at those matches off the top of my head). Assuming that all the away regulars had memberships and tournament tickets for the past two campaigns, this would leave no more than 2,000 with 35+ points. In fact, I might be overestimating here and it could be nearer to the 1,500 mark. Moving further down the ladder, and it gets more difficult to estimate with any accuracy, I reckon that the number of fans with 23+ points (e.g. both memberships, both tournament tickets and just 2 away games) would not be greater than 5,000. If we're talking of a 10,000 allocation, that probably wouldn't even require a single away game. It would suffice to have the two memberships and two tournament tickets (19 points) at most. Basically, anyone who has watched Wales (and paid for their own ticket through an FAW membership number) over the past couple of years should be fine for a ticket for most group games other than Copenhagen. It's worth remembering that applicants can buy two tickets each (well you could for Euro 2016) so that will eat into the allocation as I imagine most people would do that. But if we end up in the bigger stadiums I agree that almost everyone who has done a handful of away games should get tickets Hopefully this is more in the FAW hands than last time and only one ticket can be bought per member. I don't like the idea of somebody's missus going to a game who has no interest in football because she wants to visit Rome for example.
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