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Post by barry on Jul 18, 2020 13:13:06 GMT
Young RB.
Makes the Swansea squad for the first time today as only defender on the bench.
Still only 17.
Has played for Wales U17s but, IIRC, his allegiance was wavering to his native Zimbabwe a few months back.
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Post by hooky on Jul 18, 2020 15:42:13 GMT
Strange. With all the success Wales are having and given the quality of players you would have figured he would choose Wales?
Zimbabwe are a bit of a non entity at international level aren't they? Hopefully Giggs can have a quiet word with him! His agent would presumably also be highlighting that playing for Wales would be a far better option for him? Was he born and brought up in England?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 15:59:05 GMT
Strange. With all the success Wales are having and given the quality of players you would have figured he would choose Wales? Zimbabwe are a bit of a non entity at international level aren't they? Hopefully Giggs can have a quiet word with him! His agent would presumably also be highlighting that playing for Wales would be a far better option for him? Was he born and brought up in England? He was born in Zimbabwe but brought up in Wales. Used to go home every year but at some point that stopped and his passport expired. Renewal supposedly wasn't an issue when he got the senior callup last Autumn but then he got injured and couldn't go (if that had been his choice). |
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Post by hooky on Jul 18, 2020 16:03:04 GMT
Well each year that goes by then he gets older, maturer and is more likely to make his own mind up and not be swayed by parents. Is he any good? Does he have the potential to reach Neco or Connor's level?
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 18, 2020 16:06:04 GMT
However he identifies is up to him - I won't begrudge him if he chooses Zimbabwe and represents the country of his birth - especially if he doesn't feel right playing for Wales.
My understanding is that he is a serious prospect and we should keep a close eye on his progress - in the Swans squad at 17 is a great achievement
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Post by wirralwelsh on Jul 18, 2020 16:14:00 GMT
Strange. With all the success Wales are having and given the quality of players you would have figured he would choose Wales? Zimbabwe are a bit of a non entity at international level aren't they? Hopefully Giggs can have a quiet word with him! His agent would presumably also be highlighting that playing for Wales would be a far better option for him? Was he born and brought up in England? On that basis all our English born players should be waiting for a call up from England shouldn't they given they are ranked a lot higher than us, win many more games and almost guaranteed to qualify for tournaments? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 16:45:49 GMT
Well each year that goes by then he gets older, maturer and is more likely to make his own mind up and not be swayed by parents. Is he any good? Does he have the potential to reach Neco or Connor's level? He made as comfortable a step up to u23s level as I've seen from any player when he was 16, absolute duck to water wasn't phased at all. Played centre mid a lot for the u18s (as many do, Connor included). Bright kid and trains well but my concern would be that he's a bit neat and tidy without anything special to set him apart (like Neco's crossing or Connor's attacking runs). On a technical level he's not as good as Aaron Lewis was. It's a lot easier for young Swansea players to progress into a matchday squad these days, especially when you're playing a back 5 with 3 injuries/suspensions. But he's well thought of and it's very early in his career. There's a lot of potential Wales right backs around these days, many of them young. Iestyn Hughes at Man Utd impressed me when I saw him for Wales u17s a couple years ago, best footballer on the pitch. Neco has a younger brother plays that position as well. As a cynical career move alone Zimbabwe would be an attractive option. They're putting in effort to get EFL players with links involved. |
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Post by manulike on Jul 18, 2020 17:41:30 GMT
According to my app, he played the last 30' v Cambridge in he EFL cup in August last year ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2020 18:57:41 GMT
According to my app, he played the last 30' v Cambridge in he EFL cup in August last year ;-) Only 5-0 up at the time. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jul 19, 2020 21:17:03 GMT
Fair play to the lad if he chooses Zimbabwe. Always hurt when I saw Welsh eligible players choosing England and never even being on their radar. If he chooses Wales great, if he chooses Zimbabwe I hope he smashes it at international level.
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Jul 20, 2020 8:40:04 GMT
Does anyone know the protocol regarding call-ups? Are players sounded out before hand to make sure they won’t Brooks Toulon Tournament us again? If so, Rushesha’s call up in March is a positive sign.
Moreover, Neco’s inevitable September senior call-up will provide Tivonge with game time for the u19s that might play a part in his decision.
Don’t like seeing any promising Cymru-qualified players playing for other countries, but it’s understandable.
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Post by walesgolfmadrid on Jul 20, 2020 10:36:13 GMT
I think his allegiance is with Wales at the minute. Zimbabwe have tried to call him up for the first team this year, but pretty sure he was involved in a Welsh youth squad instead. I think the travel for playing for Zimbabwe would be off putting if he's not sure yet.
I think should we stay in the Championship next season, I imagine we won't be able to afford to extend Kyle Naughton's contract, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was cover for Connor Roberts for the season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 14:12:26 GMT
I think his allegiance is with Wales at the minute. Zimbabwe have tried to call him up for the first team this year, but pretty sure he was involved in a Welsh youth squad instead. I think the travel for playing for Zimbabwe would be off putting if he's not sure yet. I think should we stay in the Championship next season, I imagine we won't be able to afford to extend Kyle Naughton's contract, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was cover for Connor Roberts for the season. He hasn't played for any Wales age group since the Zimbabwe approach. I was fairly sure he was injured as he wasn't involved for Swans u23s around that time either but: "Rushesha, who counts Benjani Mwaruwari and Aston Villa’s Marvelous Nakamba among his role models, described the call-up to the Warriors as an honour. “I feel privileged to be in such a position. I have followed the Africa Cup of Nations on television and have heard a lot about CAPS United from my father who always talks about (the late) Joel Shambo. ‘‘I visit Zimbabwe very often, on average every two years, because that’s where I was born and it’s home. “I always enjoy spending time with my extended family – loads of brothers and sisters,” said Rushesha who moved to the United Kingdom in 2003. ... “My Zimbabwean passport expired and the national team manager has been in touch and he is aware that I will not be able to make the squad this time,” he said." nehandaradio.com/2019/10/26/british-brigade-relish-warriors-call-up/ |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 20, 2020 16:53:35 GMT
Is this possibly a case of the FAW encouraging him to go and experience another setup?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 17:42:45 GMT
Is this possibly a case of the FAW encouraging him to go and experience another setup? As in telling him he's not going to make it with us? Can't imagine why him getting capped by another nation would be in the FAW's interest. |
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Post by conwy10 on Jul 20, 2020 17:56:32 GMT
Does anyone know the protocol regarding call-ups? Are players sounded out before hand to make sure they won’t Brooks Toulon Tournament us again? If so, Rushesha’s call up in March is a positive sign. Moreover, Neco’s inevitable September senior call-up will provide Tivonge with game time for the u19s that might play a part in his decision. Don’t like seeing any promising Cymru-qualified players playing for other countries, but it’s understandable. As far as I’m aware Brooks went to the Toulon Tournament with England with Wales blessing. When I went to a Q and A with Osian Roberts he said they would actively promote it. Along the lines of we have to be confident what we’re doing is right and have confidence in our set up against others. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 20, 2020 18:51:28 GMT
Is this possibly a case of the FAW encouraging him to go and experience another setup? As in telling him he's not going to make it with us? Can't imagine why him getting capped by another nation would be in the FAW's interest. I think Conwy10 meant to quote you, I'll quote what he said for context; " As far as I’m aware Brooks went to the Toulon Tournament with England with Wales blessing. When I went to a Q and A with Osian Roberts he said they would actively promote it. Along the lines of we have to be confident what we’re doing is right and have confidence in our set up against others". This is what I was referring to. Osian always said that they backed the Welsh system to be better than anyone else's and that they encouraged youth players to not just take their word for it, actively telling them to go and experience other setups to see for themselves. I believe as well as Brooks, Ampadu was also told the same thing, and obviously it worked perfectly. I think it comes across as less needy to these talented players too. If we are there begging them not to leave us we'd probably end up pushing more away; see Rice & Grealish for Ireland. Re: Rushesha, it's possible the FAW are saying yeah go and see what it's like playing for Zimbabwe - possibly asking him not to commit by being involved in a qualifier, and then letting him make an informed decision on where we wants to continue. I think this is fairer on the player as well as it's in his best interests to feel as though he's made the most informed decision before committing his future |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 19:43:35 GMT
They called him up for an ACON qualifying round so turning up to have a nose and train a bit while he mulled over his decision would be pretty disrespectful. It's not the same thing as going to a youth tournament.
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Post by conwy10 on Jul 21, 2020 22:12:52 GMT
As in telling him he's not going to make it with us? Can't imagine why him getting capped by another nation would be in the FAW's interest. I think Conwy10 meant to quote you, I'll quote what he said for context; " As far as I’m aware Brooks went to the Toulon Tournament with England with Wales blessing. When I went to a Q and A with Osian Roberts he said they would actively promote it. Along the lines of we have to be confident what we’re doing is right and have confidence in our set up against others". This is what I was referring to. Osian always said that they backed the Welsh system to be better than anyone else's and that they encouraged youth players to not just take their word for it, actively telling them to go and experience other setups to see for themselves. I believe as well as Brooks, Ampadu was also told the same thing, and obviously it worked perfectly. I think it comes across as less needy to these talented players too. If we are there begging them not to leave us we'd probably end up pushing more away; see Rice & Grealish for Ireland. Re: Rushesha, it's possible the FAW are saying yeah go and see what it's like playing for Zimbabwe - possibly asking him not to commit by being involved in a qualifier, and then letting him make an informed decision on where we wants to continue. I think this is fairer on the player as well as it's in his best interests to feel as though he's made the most informed decision before committing his future No idea what I did tbh 😂 |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Oct 2, 2020 10:37:03 GMT
Called into the U19s - looks like he's sticking with us for now!
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Post by welshrover on Dec 15, 2020 11:05:31 GMT
Out for the rest of the season apparently.
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Post by moodgod on Jan 17, 2021 17:19:49 GMT
Out for the rest of the season apparently. That's a real shame. I saw him for U23s between the lockdowns. Even though Swansea were extremely poor and got a hammering Tiv was the best player on the pitch. Wishing him a swift recovery. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jun 2, 2023 11:26:27 GMT
Released by Swansea
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Post by winsumluzsum on Aug 4, 2023 13:02:39 GMT
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Post by winsumluzsum on Aug 4, 2023 16:37:41 GMT
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Post by gimli on Aug 9, 2023 11:13:36 GMT
Started for Reading in the cup last night and came off the bench in the league on the weekend. I was under the impression that he was a fullback but it appears he's been playing in midfield for Reading if flashscore is correct? We desperately need more options in midfield so this could be a positive development if he's playing semi-regularly in League One. Only just turned 21.
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Post by talyfan on Aug 9, 2023 11:25:19 GMT
According to fan website Tilehurst En
Tivonge Rushesha: 7
Started out in the middle of the park but went to right-back for the bulk of the game after Mbengue’s withdrawal. Looked solid in both positions - quietly effective - before going off for Dean in the second half.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Aug 9, 2023 15:19:52 GMT
Yes, he's been playing mainly as a defensive midfielder of late. He has good all-round ability though, as you can see from the two sliderule passes (4th and 6th goals) that set up two goals for Josh Thomas in the 10-1 demolition of Birmingham U21s at the end of last season: youtu.be/TiAQPSPWpq0Also scored a penalty in that match. |
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