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Post by mortillsy on Jan 31, 2023 19:29:16 GMT
My mate knows him through the Welsh/Italian community … nothing to worry about here!
Also, I’ve been given the down-low from one of the Wales u16 players, who played in the Federations Cup, regarding who the frauds are (don’t class themselves as Welsh at this stage 😆) …
Gabriele isn’t one of them! They play for City together.
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 14, 2023 12:11:13 GMT
4 year deal at United
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Post by insertname on Feb 14, 2023 12:37:46 GMT
My mate knows him through the Welsh/Italian community … nothing to worry about here! Also, I’ve been given the down-low from one of the Wales u16 players, who played in the Federations Cup, regarding who the frauds are (don’t class themselves as Welsh at this stage 😆) … Gabriele isn’t one of them! They play for City together. Interesting, so there is a problem then of lad(s) who are playing for Wales at youth level while having no real Welsh identity? |
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Post by iot on Feb 14, 2023 13:14:21 GMT
That's hardly surprising is it? If we're being honest, I'm sure the likes of Ash and HRK didn't feel truly Welsh when they first engaged with us and would have been the 'frauds' described in this instance, but then they bought into it over time and now consider themselves proud Welshmen.
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Post by insertname on Feb 14, 2023 15:29:47 GMT
I suppose it isn’t in and of itself, I guess it’s the tone that is the bothersome part. One presumes that people who aren’t invested out of a sense of Welshness and are open enough about that to the extent that others know and call them frauds (whether jokingly or not) are probably not the best influences to have a dressing room…
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Post by iot on Feb 14, 2023 15:47:53 GMT
Think you've thought a bit too much into a third / fourth hand comment made on a messageboard. This is based on someone on a messageboard being given the 'lowdown' from a Wales u16player, and then passing that on. Difficult to judge the tone from that!
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Post by mortillsy on Feb 14, 2023 15:59:35 GMT
My mate knows him through the Welsh/Italian community … nothing to worry about here! Also, I’ve been given the down-low from one of the Wales u16 players, who played in the Federations Cup, regarding who the frauds are (don’t class themselves as Welsh at this stage 😆) … Gabriele isn’t one of them! They play for City together. Interesting, so there is a problem then of lad(s) who are playing for Wales at youth level while having no real Welsh identity? Frauds was meant in jest. He was resounding on his comments regarding Gabriele (and a few others), I was sad enough to bore the poor lad with lots of questions. This was meant as good news. Yeah, he's been involved in several Wales camps/squads and said it goes on. These are very young lads, it's not surprising and I'm not criticising them. Obviously a lot changes as they mature etc. Happy to chat through private message to avoid Apostle sleuths trying to identify individuals. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Feb 25, 2023 21:05:14 GMT
Hasn't been mentioned here but I think this is a really good move. Cardiff not really a great place for youth prospects at the moment, and Ten Hag has a good record at promoting youth players. Fingers crossed he's given a chance
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Post by fiveattheback on Feb 25, 2023 22:41:55 GMT
Hasn't been mentioned here but I think this is a really good move. Cardiff not really a great place for youth prospects at the moment, and Ten Hag has a good record at promoting youth players. Fingers crossed he's given a chance 4-1 win for the u18s today despite losing theid captain, keeper and striker over the past few months, u16s won 5-2. Clearly going well at age group level so not a terrible place for young players, but struggling to turn them into first teamers so clearly an issue there Is it also possible Biancheri etc are on another level to Colwill, Davies? It's not like that age group were ignored by big clubs (Matondo to Man City, Spence turned them down), but there were never even rumours about Colwill/Davies going elsewhere, Colwill practically came out of nowhere to be in the first team squad. Maybe there's a reason for that and maybe that reflects on why they struggle to break into the side? Morison's horrendous mus-management of them and plenty of others hasn't helped either |
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Post by manulike on Feb 27, 2023 21:04:12 GMT
Done deal. Good luck, Gabby!
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Post by jimexotic on Mar 22, 2023 21:07:09 GMT
Scored for the U'17's against Scotland, Iwan Morgan scored a brace
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Post by quetzal on Mar 22, 2023 21:26:43 GMT
Looks good. Looks very good.
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Post by mortillsy on Sept 3, 2023 10:40:44 GMT
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Post by hooky on Sept 3, 2023 10:59:14 GMT
Is that a good thing? I just saw some people saying he should be in the senior Wales team To be honest - he did not stand out in the recent junior European Championship and I think he would be making a mistake being one of countless numbers in an England youth setup. Just look at someone like Ferguson who is just a little older than him - these are the types of players that could if they chose have a lasting senior England career and even then its a battle and far from assured. Best to be happy playing your football in an environment you are comfortable with and wanted. So does anyone know why he has not been picked for any squads? |
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Post by mortillsy on Sept 3, 2023 11:08:16 GMT
Is that a good thing? I just saw some people saying he should be in the senior Wales team To be honest - he did not stand out in the recent junior European Championship and I think he would be making a mistake being one of countless numbers in an England youth setup. Just look at someone like Ferguson who is just a little older than him - these are the types of players that could if they chose have a lasting senior England career and even then its a battle and far from assured. Best to be happy playing your football in an environment you are comfortable with and wanted. So does anyone know why he has not been picked for any squads? Is scoring a hat trick a good thing? .. is that the question? Where’s this England talk come from? Is there any basis to it? Or just conjecture based on him not being announced in the youth squad? |
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Post by welshrover on Sept 3, 2023 21:36:04 GMT
Is that a good thing? I just saw some people saying he should be in the senior Wales team To be honest - he did not stand out in the recent junior European Championship and I think he would be making a mistake being one of countless numbers in an England youth setup. Just look at someone like Ferguson who is just a little older than him - these are the types of players that could if they chose have a lasting senior England career and even then its a battle and far from assured. Best to be happy playing your football in an environment you are comfortable with and wanted. So does anyone know why he has not been picked for any squads? Is what a good thing? I really don't understand Instagram / Twitter etc, all I see is a picture and nothing to tell me what it is saying. So, is what a good thing? |
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Post by wirralwelsh on Sept 4, 2023 12:27:17 GMT
He's only 16 so not yet ready for Under-19 squad and slightly too old for Under-17 so why would he have been named in either?
Already have Koumas, Issaka and Roberts as Under-19 strikers so no point picking a 16 year old too.I don't know if he is even eligible for England...probably Italy
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Post by mortillsy on Sept 4, 2023 18:26:37 GMT
Is that a good thing? I just saw some people saying he should be in the senior Wales team To be honest - he did not stand out in the recent junior European Championship and I think he would be making a mistake being one of countless numbers in an England youth setup. Just look at someone like Ferguson who is just a little older than him - these are the types of players that could if they chose have a lasting senior England career and even then its a battle and far from assured. Best to be happy playing your football in an environment you are comfortable with and wanted. So does anyone know why he has not been picked for any squads? Is what a good thing? I really don't understand Instagram / Twitter etc, all I see is a picture and nothing to tell me what it is saying. So, is what a good thing? If you click on the arrow (right hand side of the photo) a couple of times you can watch his third goal. |
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Sept 19, 2023 9:48:43 GMT
He’s signed a pro-contract with Man Utd. No chance can we afford not to call him up during international windows, such as the last. Italy, and possibly England (if he qualifies) will be sniffing around. He may well be open to the former, with a quick social media stalk. We need to keep him involved.
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Post by wirralwelsh on Sept 19, 2023 13:21:05 GMT
His challenge is we have a glut of strikers at Under-19 level at the moment and the likes of Issaka, Benjamin, Koumas and Morgan are playing in more advanced age groups or even the first team and ahead of him at club level. He's still 16, he will be in the Under-18 squad whenever they play next and next year's under-19 squad too. The others mentioned are dual nationals too apart from Morgan , who has massively outshone Biancheri at youth level, so it is smart to drop them just because Biancheri has Italian heritage?
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Post by vaulksthrowfanclub on Sept 19, 2023 14:03:35 GMT
His challenge is we have a glut of strikers at Under-19 level at the moment and the likes of Issaka, Benjamin, Koumas and Morgan are playing in more advanced age groups or even the first team and ahead of him at club level. He's still 16, he will be in the Under-18 squad whenever they play next and next year's under-19 squad too. The others mentioned are dual nationals too apart from Morgan , who has massively outshone Biancheri at youth level, so it is smart to drop them just because Biancheri has Italian heritage? Appreciate that we’ve a plethora of attacking talent in the ‘05s and 06s. Im my opinion there’d be merit in fast tracking Koumas to the u21s given his physicality and talent, and seeing how Omari Benjamin performs after his injury, he scored on his first appearance back for Arsenal, and fast-tracking him too. Biancheri is fairly versatile too, playing with Morgan and Issaka at times, rather than instead of. Given our resources, I’d consider involving Koumas with the seniors vs Gibraltar. I’d love to see a youthful team for that game, as long as it isn’t to the detriment of the youth teams. It’d be a shame to lose Gabriele to a superpower because of a lack of consistent u18 fixtures. Gabriele’s inclusion would be based on footballing merit, rather than dual-nationality, at any rate. The latter is just something to be conscious of, in my opinion. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 19, 2023 15:04:33 GMT
His challenge is we have a glut of strikers at Under-19 level at the moment and the likes of Issaka, Benjamin, Koumas and Morgan are playing in more advanced age groups or even the first team and ahead of him at club level. He's still 16, he will be in the Under-18 squad whenever they play next and next year's under-19 squad too. The others mentioned are dual nationals too apart from Morgan , who has massively outshone Biancheri at youth level, so it is smart to drop them just because Biancheri has Italian heritage? Massively outshone? Biancheri has looked the better player when I've seen them play |
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Post by wirralwelsh on Sept 19, 2023 15:51:08 GMT
Morgan scored 9 goals in 8 games for Under-17's , Biancheri got 2 in 10 so yeah I'd say massively outshone
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 19, 2023 16:41:44 GMT
Morgan scored 9 goals in 8 games for Under-17's , Biancheri got 2 in 10 so yeah I'd say massively outshone There's more to their youth football careers than just who scored more for Wales u17s. Biancheri's performed so well in youth football that Manchester United decided to sign him Morgan is a good player and has done well, but I don't think it's fair to say he's "massively outshone" Biancheri, they were both important parts of a Welsh team that actually qualified for something! |
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Post by wirralwelsh on Sept 19, 2023 17:51:42 GMT
24 goals for Morgan against 4 for Biancheri at under-18 club level last season too . Quite a useful measurement for a striker. Biancheri has potential too but at the moment some way behind Morgan. Neither actually impressed that much in the Euro finals in the end though, albeit Morgan looked the more dangerous.
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 19, 2023 19:19:47 GMT
24 goals for Morgan against 4 for Biancheri at under-18 club level last season too . Quite a useful measurement for a striker. Biancheri has potential too but at the moment some way behind Morgan. Neither actually impressed that much in the Euro finals in the end though, albeit Morgan looked the more dangerous. Biancheri had 17 goals and 5 assists in 11 games by December last season for Cardiff and even featured for Cardiff's u21s as a 16 year old, he was wanted by Chelsea and Manchester United. Anyway, none of this matters if they can't make the step up to senior football |
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Post by wirralwelsh on Sept 19, 2023 19:52:14 GMT
If so those include goals at a more junior level though which isn't even reported.
The fact he was still playing Under-16 club football last season whilst Morgan was smashing them in for the under-18's and Issaka on the bench for Plymouth first team exactly illustrates why he is behind them in the Wales youth pecking order at the moment so there is no justification picking him ahead of them.
I can't think of any Welsh born and raised player we actually wanted going away to play for another international team. It just doesn't happen so let him develop at his own pace in his own age group for the moment. He's not going anywhere. There's even another striker Joe Belmont who is Biancheri's age and just as highly rated. I am sure they will be teaming up together for Wales Under-18 this season
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 20, 2023 9:23:49 GMT
He’s signed a pro-contract with Man Utd. No chance can we afford not to call him up during international windows, such as the last. Italy, and possibly England (if he qualifies) will be sniffing around. He may well be open to the former, with a quick social media stalk. We need to keep him involved. This is not the way we do things, and we should continue to do what we do as it's the best way of securing talent. When we start to act paranoid about them then we're more likely to lose them. I have no doubt Biancheri will continue to progress and move up our system at the right speed, especially if he turns out to be a top player |
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Post by fiveattheback on Oct 13, 2024 13:48:06 GMT
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Post by rob on Oct 13, 2024 14:03:53 GMT
Should have been in the U21s already-very reluctant to fast-track players last few years.Given goalscoring issues this campaign we have been a bit slow in moving players up.Craig Bellamy himself was playing for the U21s at 17.
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