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Post by cadno on Sept 23, 2022 20:32:24 GMT
I couldn't find another one so thought I'd start this thread.
Iran 1-0 Uruguay tonight.
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Post by insertname on Sept 24, 2022 3:35:26 GMT
Oof, that’s a big result.
Group B looks very hard to call right now. Feels like we need a win over Poland to have some momentum. England under pressure right now will either result in them cracking up at the WC or, as I suspect, thriving under the pressure and bringing their tournament A game and blowing everyone away. Sounds like the US are very under cooked so that is already looking like a must win. If we can get 3 points there then we should be alright
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Post by cadno on Sept 24, 2022 10:23:42 GMT
Yes good win fair play, Uruguay are 13th in the FIFA Rankings. Looking at Iran's recent results and they've only conededed 6 in their last 10 games, keeping 6 clean sheets out of 10 along the way. Then again I don't expect they've come up against many players like Moore, Bale, Ramsey, Johnson etc. Obviously the climate in Qatar will suit the Iranians better than us. Like you say insertname the first game is the most crucial one, if we can avoid defeat against USA then it keeps our hopes alive, a win in our opener and a point against Iran could be enough to get us through the group stage. Horrible couple of months ahead of us now hoping our players don't get injured.
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Post by iantov on Sept 30, 2022 12:53:46 GMT
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Post by erasedcitizen on Oct 20, 2022 20:30:32 GMT
Iran have been assisting Russia in their efforts on Ukraine. Surely they don't make the WC now.
UAE got the furthest from Asia without qualifying, could see them stepping in.
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Post by saints19 on Oct 20, 2022 21:14:22 GMT
If Iran are banned, does that also mean the US should be? After all, police kill 1,000 a year over there and they arrested over 10,000 people in the protests that followed the murder of George Floyd. Were England and the USA banned from the World Cup after the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan? What about Turkey or Azerbaijan after the war against Armenia? Or Syria after the civil war? Or Saudi Arabia with the ongoing bombimg of Yemen?
There has long been a sensible distinction between sport and politics, and the general principle is that countries are not banned from sporting competition unless they have done something truly shocking. Consider that at the height of the Cold War the Eastern Bloc countries all participated alongside the Western ones. Clearly, the invasion of Ukraine has moved the international community to act in this case, because of the need to send a message to Russia that starting a war that may lead to World War III (if we are not already there!) will not be ignored and there will be consequences for this which stretch even to sport and are not simply confined to politics. But the general rule that sport and politics should not be mixed is a good one, I think. Sport has an unbelievable power to bring people from vastly different cultures together, and no country should be "cancelled" from sport unless their government have done something extraordinarly shocking, because the world needs the uniting power of sport now more than ever.
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Post by dlwilliams on Oct 20, 2022 21:28:14 GMT
If Iran are banned, does that also mean the US should be? After all, police kill 1,000 a year over there and they arrested over 10,000 people in the protests that followed the murder of George Floyd. Were England and the USA banned from the World Cup after the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan? What about Turkey or Azerbaijan after the war against Armenia? Or Syria after the civil war? Or Saudi Arabia with the ongoing bombimg of Yemen? There has long been a sensible distinction between sport and politics, and the general principle is that countries are not banned from sporting competition unless they have done something truly shocking. Consider that at the height of the Cold War the Eastern Bloc countries all participated alongside the Western ones. Clearly, the invasion of Ukraine has moved the international community to act in this case, because of the need to send a message to Russia that starting a war that may lead to World War III (if we are not already there!) will not be ignored and there will be consequences for this which stretch even to sport and are not simply confined to politics. But the general rule that sport and politics should not be mixed is a good one, I think. Sport has an unbelievable power to bring people from vastly different cultures together, and no country should be "cancelled" from sport unless their government have done something extraordinarly shocking, because the world needs the uniting power of sport now more than ever. Yeah, agree with this. Surely it's be too late to kick them out now, even if FIFA wanted to.
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Post by iantov on Nov 10, 2022 19:29:51 GMT
Iran's final game before the World Cup starts;
Iran 1 v Nicaragua 0
Mehdi Torabi 15th min
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Post by rushlegend on Nov 10, 2022 22:41:49 GMT
Another load of bollocks of hosting this WC in shithole "Qatar" in November is the fact it gives some countries an opportunity to play friendlies (Iran, USA, Mexico) - that is unfair that these countries get an extra 3 weeks to get-together and prepare better!!
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Post by jbt95 on Nov 10, 2022 23:43:45 GMT
Isn’t the shoe on the other foot for summer tournaments and summer leagues?
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Post by jimexotic on Nov 10, 2022 23:53:47 GMT
I'm terrified of this fixture, I really am. I'm just trying to enjoy us being there.
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 13, 2022 14:51:23 GMT
Interesting:
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 14, 2022 16:07:21 GMT
Comments suggesting that the reason for this is their star striker Sardar Azmoun has been joining in the protests in Iran. The government do not want him selected, but Queiroz has insisted. They have now announced their squad with Azmoun in it
They do seem to be in a bit of a mess off the pitch. Hard to say whether this will galvanise them or mess with their performances. Certainly not been plain sailing for them recently, which favours us you'd have to think. I wouldn't be surprised to see their players engage in protests against their government
It will be a very political tournament
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 16, 2022 18:56:33 GMT
Tunisia 2 - 0 Iran…
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2022 19:12:57 GMT
Just watched a world of sport where iran score an own goal against scotland in a world cup(78 maybe?,not sure),let's hope they have the same luck against us.Though thinking of it i'm not sure they lost that game:)
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Post by cymruchris on Nov 16, 2022 22:19:38 GMT
Real banana skin fixture if this is the must win to get out of the group.
Iran have some decent strikers now and in the last two World cups Argentina only scored 90th minute winner in Brazil 2014 and Spain and Portugal massively struggled v them in Russia.
Mind you I thought that about the Turkey fixture and that was complete walk in the park so never understimate this squad's mentality.
Iran are in complete mess off the pitch so hopefully their chaotic preparation will help. Think they'll just play for a point with it being first game and then put everything into the US game which they won't need motivating for so up to us to be the team on frontfoot as best we can.
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Post by cymruchris on Nov 16, 2022 22:20:17 GMT
Just watched a world of sport where iran score an own goal against scotland in a world cup(78 maybe?,not sure),let's hope they have the same luck against us.Though thinking of it i'm not sure they lost that game:) Was a 1-1 draw wasn't it and start of "Ally's army" implosion.
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Post by morg on Nov 17, 2022 12:56:43 GMT
So I'm hearing that we postponed training from early afternoon today to early evening. KO time v Iran is 1pm local time. No other matches in our group in that slot. As others have said, this could be really tough fixture.
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Post by vvm on Nov 17, 2022 13:38:08 GMT
Not to generalise but good chance the Iranian players are more suited to playing in that kind of temperature too. I wonder what kind of affect the air conditioned stadiums will actually have on the players.
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Post by cymruchris on Nov 17, 2022 21:15:47 GMT
So I'm hearing that we postponed training from early afternoon today to early evening. KO time v Iran is 1pm local time. No other matches in our group in that slot. As others have said, this could be really tough fixture. Probably similar temperature to Baku last year? The Swiss game was played mid afternoon (Turkey game during the evening). Think all players are finding out what's it like to be African when all their players go from deep european mid winter every other January to play in AFCON and warmer temperatures.
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Post by pclaude on Nov 17, 2022 21:19:05 GMT
So I'm hearing that we postponed training from early afternoon today to early evening. KO time v Iran is 1pm local time. No other matches in our group in that slot. As others have said, this could be really tough fixture. It is supposed to cool down a bit next week.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Nov 18, 2022 13:39:33 GMT
Not to generalise but good chance the Iranian players are more suited to playing in that kind of temperature too. I wonder what kind of affect the air conditioned stadiums will actually have on the players. the stadiums aren't air conditioned, that was an idea banded about when they said they wanted to host it in the summer. It will be a hot World Cup
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Post by fiveattheback on Nov 18, 2022 14:28:09 GMT
England struggling with the heat...
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Post by rhys on Nov 18, 2022 14:29:33 GMT
Not to generalise but good chance the Iranian players are more suited to playing in that kind of temperature too. I wonder what kind of affect the air conditioned stadiums will actually have on the players. the stadiums aren't air conditioned, that was an idea banded about when they said they wanted to host it in the summer. It will be a hot World Cup 7/8 of them are air conditioned. I think it’s only 974 which isn’t.
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Post by daearegwr on Nov 18, 2022 15:27:51 GMT
It'll be the Iran game which is the killer in the hottest part of the day (for us fans!). At least the USA and England games will be after dark, so whilst still warm won't be in the sunshine
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Post by CrackityJones on Nov 18, 2022 16:20:51 GMT
The temperature is down to 28 next week so will feel milder and the players should be more to it by Friday. It may be hot but the sun is low in the sky so a lot of the ground will be in the shade anyway.
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Post by welshowl on Nov 18, 2022 18:17:29 GMT
The temperature is down to 28 next week so will feel milder and the players should be more to it by Friday. It may be hot but the sun is low in the sky so a lot of the ground will be in the shade anyway.
Keep on getting cooler please...
I wonder whether the ongoing trouble back home in Iran will affect the morale of the Iranian team? Probably not much, but any dampening of fervour would be good.
Gosh - it's going to be difficult to wish / celebrate England doing well, but in England vs Iran, I really hope England win heavily, and the sap confidence/morale ahead of Iran playing Cymru. England will probably let us down by producing an uninspired 0-0 draw....as we should know by now, Iran are a tough team. I would put money on our Group being the lowest number of goals group of all of them.
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Post by hooky on Nov 19, 2022 11:07:58 GMT
Good job we have Bale!
Someone like Moore could be so, so useful too. There are not many 6ft 5inch strikers Iran will have faced I assume
I do wonder why don't we don't score more headers from set pieces? Bale and Moore are excellent headers. The two centre backs Mepham and Rodon are very tall too and yet don't see very good in the opposition box and someone like Neco is decent in the air. Very strange!
Indeed when you look at two of the last players who scored headers - they include Ramsey and even James! Don't understand why we can't be more effective in that part of the game.
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Post by dai on Nov 19, 2022 12:25:54 GMT
Good job we have Bale! Someone like Moore could be so, so useful too. There are not many 6ft 5inch strikers Iran will have faced I assume I do wonder why don't we don't score more headers from set pieces? Bale and Moore are excellent headers. The two centre backs Mepham and Rodon are very tall too and yet don't see very good in the opposition box and someone like Neco is decent in the air. Very strange! Indeed when you look at two of the last players who scored headers - they include Ramsey and even James! Don't understand why we can't be more effective in that part of the game. Well one aspect I have noticed is our deliveries are often poor. D James takes corners usually and they’re always terrible. Same with set pieces, we very rarely put decent balls into the box. When Moore does play we dont usually play to his strengths of being big and tall.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2022 13:26:51 GMT
Looks like irans first choice keeper is out of our match,well that is if they follow concussion protocol.And judging by how long they took to bring him off is debatable.
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