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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2010 15:15:48 GMT
Bale out - to add to ramsay, collison, bellamy, joe allen - Tottenham say he has to have some treatment to a knee injury. How the odds are stacked against a small country like wales.
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Post by welshwizard79 on May 10, 2010 19:14:48 GMT
Yeah its the same old story every time its so frustrating
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Post by welshwizard79 on May 10, 2010 19:23:18 GMT
Looking at the Croatia squad this is gonna be tough me thinks...
Squad list:
Goalkeepers: Vedran Runje (RC Lens), Danijel Subašiæ (Hajduk Split), Stipe Pletikosa (Spartak Moskow)
Defenders: Josip Šimuniæ (Hoffenheim), Hrvoje Èale (Trabzonspor), Dario Kneževiæ (Livorno), Jurica Buljat (Hajduk), Ivan Striniæ (Hajduk).
Midfielders: Darijo Srna (Shakhtar Donetsk), Ognjen Vukojeviæ (Dynamo Kiev), Nikola Pokrivaè (Monaco), Tomislav Dujmoviæ (Lokomotiv), Danijel Pranjiæ (Bayern Munich), Luka Modriæ (Tottenham), Drago Gabriæ (Trabzonspor)
Forwards: Ivica Oliæ (Bayern Munich), Mladen Petriæ (Hamburg), Mario Mandžukiæ (Dinamo Zagreb), Eduardo Da Silva (Arsenal), Nikica Jelaviæ (Rapid), Mate Biliæ (Sporting Gijon).
They are ranked 9th in the world but were way of the pace getting to the WC and finished 3rd behind Ukraine. Just had a look at their results and they dont lose many but if we play attcking football like against Scotland we might suprise them
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Post by welshwizard79 on May 10, 2010 19:27:58 GMT
Now Bale is out would a recall for Gareth Roberts be worth it for some experience and he's on form at a decent level. Also lets not see Crofts and hopefully the return of Stock and maybe Gavin Williams if injuries kick in ?
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Post by saints19 on May 11, 2010 18:23:27 GMT
Disappointing that Bale's out, I reckon that probably blows our chance of a result. As long as they're all fit for the competitive qualifiers though, that's the main thing. Plus, better to rest them than to risk them aggravating a current injury.
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Post by Counting Crows on May 13, 2010 13:09:25 GMT
Bellamy is in the squad for this game. He's delaying his trip to Sierra Leonne.
Oh, and Berbatov has quit international football according to the BBC website.
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Post by Tim P on May 14, 2010 16:29:12 GMT
Wales squad to face Croatia on 23 May:
Goalkeepers: Wayne Hennessey (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Boaz Myhill (Hull City)
Defenders: James Collins (Aston Villa), Danny Gabbidon (West Ham United), Chris Gunter (Nottingham Forest), Craig Morgan (Peterborough United), Lewin Nyatanga (Bristol City), Sam Ricketts (Bolton Wanderers), Ashley Williams (Swansea City)
Midfielders: Andrew Crofts (Brighton & Hove Albion), Simon Davies (Fulham), Andy Dorman (St Mirren), David Edwards (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Brian Stock (Doncaster Rovers)
Strikers: Craig Bellamy (Manchester City), Simon Church (Reading), David Cotterill (Swansea City), Rob Earnshaw (Nottingham Forest), Ched Evans (Sheffield United), Sam Vokes (Wolverhampton Wanderers)
my Idea:
gk: half each
rb: gunter
lb: ricketts
cb: collins
cb: williams
cm: stock
cm: dorman
rm: edwards
lm: davies
cf: bellamy
cf: church
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Post by saints19 on May 14, 2010 19:52:18 GMT
Bit of a dearth of midfielders there - we may have to rely on Crofts.  I'd go with trendy's team, but to be honest it more or less picks itself. Might go for Earnie up front. |
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Post by Tim P on May 16, 2010 16:56:31 GMT
gabbs and cotterill out.
i think there's a chance this could be the end of gabbidon: west ham will try and release him in the summer, and depending on this injury, he may not be able to get a club. he might choose to retire with a nice payoff rather than scrabble about the lower leagues on a grand a week. sad, and i hope it doesnt come to that.
outside bet of dave jones giving him a chance at Cardiff?
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Post by squatter1 on May 17, 2010 16:29:15 GMT
Davies and Collins join the drop outs. Lost count of how many players not available.
What does this all mean? When Bonkers Bells said he was in, I thought that was a real positive statement about the upcoming campaign - that Bellamy was going to give it a full shot. But now with practically a 1st 11 dropping out, some with slightly dubious excuses, I'm wondering what this says about the commitment to Tosh ahead of the qualifiers.
Or am I being too negative - was it just a ridiculously badly timed date to hold a friendly that would inevitably mean a bunch of players not making it?
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Post by dewi712 on May 17, 2010 20:16:46 GMT
in my opinion ,friendlies are and never will be taken serious enough by our lads. we must show that were united and be available ,they may seem meaningless to the players after a hard season, but were never going to get anywhere without preparation,and on the brink of a new campaign they must show that their willing and that they mean business.
there s too much complacency and its about time they showed wales how serious they take it.
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Post by Tim P on May 17, 2010 20:34:33 GMT
why is collins out?
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2010 23:34:29 GMT
You have to wonder with the "commitment" of some of our players and the easy Anglo route through in-migration of the English just how much longer Wales will have an independant international football team.
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Post by llannerch on May 18, 2010 6:30:50 GMT
You have to wonder with the "commitment" of some of our players and the easy Anglo route through in-migration of the English just how much longer Wales will have an independant international football team. I think the Anglos actually qualify because of the out-migration of their Welsh ancestors, surely? And Wales's footballing future independence will be influenced more by African and Caribbean countries rather than England |
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Post by cymruunedig on May 18, 2010 11:57:46 GMT
With the number of players unavailable for this game I'm not sure how useful this end-of-season friendly will be, to have a game on 23 May, a few weeks after the end of the club season for most players, is worrying.
Hope we don't get anymore drop-outs, otherwise Tosh is playing holding midfield! Croatia away is going to be very difficult...
And anyone else think it's a bit sad that none of the 32 World Cup teams wanted to play Wales before the tournament??
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Post by squatter1 on May 19, 2010 11:22:13 GMT
Not sure that even in our history of depleted squads that we've seen as threadbare a turnout as we're gonna get in Croatia on Sun.
I mean, it's embarassing for Tosh surely? Is there anyone - Tosh included - who actually wants this game to go ahead?
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Post by cymruunedig on May 19, 2010 15:03:28 GMT
Exactly, no one wants this game, it's weeks after the end of season for most players, other players have dropped out with 'injuries' or 'personal reasons', I can't see how this game will help prepare us for Montenegro away in September or Bulgaria next year!
But Tosh is always right of course, and an opportunity for the likes of Crofts to add to their cap tally, as well as new caps for Neil Taylor, Ribeiro, Bradley and new boy Robson-Kanu.
Can't believe Bellamy hasn't pulled out yet!!
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Post by welshwizard79 on May 19, 2010 19:21:56 GMT
Bellamy out. This is a joke..14 players injured
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2010 20:09:19 GMT
They've all gone on their holidays!
Bet Tosh wishes he never arranged this fixture now.
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Post by Tim P on May 19, 2010 21:15:31 GMT
doesn't look too clever.
still, at least bellamy's withdrawl was on the advice of our doctors - and not some dubious bunkoff.
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Post by llannerch on May 19, 2010 21:16:21 GMT
There really is no point whatsoever in this fixture. Look at our friendly games in May and June:
Estonia (h)
Holland (a)
Iceland (a)
NZ (h)
Trinidad (a)
Canada (h)
Norway (a)
USA (a)
Germany (h)
Unless they are followed by a late season qualifier (NZ preceded Czech Rep at home; Estonia preceded Azerbaijan away) the withdrawals are horrendous and render the game pointless, and caps worthless
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Post by jon6a on May 20, 2010 14:09:10 GMT
I feel sorry for Tosh, when is he going to get a full team with no injuries or other commitment. Ashley Williams is now the captain for Sunday now then.
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Post by Tim P on May 21, 2010 17:38:49 GMT
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Post by llannerch on May 22, 2010 10:37:55 GMT
Although I agree with Gunter, I'm prepared to cut Davies some slack - his season started 7 weeks shy of a year ago, he's had injury problems and to get himself up for one more game after losing that final must be difficult
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Post by Tim P on May 22, 2010 16:12:58 GMT
i think that was gunter's point though: when it comes to Wales, it should never be a question of motivation.
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Post by saints19 on May 22, 2010 16:41:53 GMT
Top marks to Gunter for being virtually our only senior player to make the trip. Lads like Davies and Collins are not setting a good example for the youngsters.
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Post by llannerch on May 22, 2010 18:37:14 GMT
i think that was gunter's point though: when it comes to Wales, it should never be a question of motivation. Maybe not, but Gunter will find out should he ever lose a European final after a 45 week season  |
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Post by Tim P on May 23, 2010 21:02:14 GMT
that wasn't great.
i did think that the overall feeling of the pundits on s4c was way over the top though.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2010 17:41:28 GMT
It looks like we are down to the "right arm brigade" now.
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Post by jon6a on May 25, 2010 8:49:02 GMT
Under the circumstances I'll take 2-0 away to a hostile crowd, good experience for the youngsters, but a totally useless match in terms of the euro campaign.
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