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Post by welshrover on Apr 13, 2024 10:55:53 GMT
as far as I know not being selected for Wales U21s is nothing to do with Scotland That's a bit of a cliffhanger! Which reads "as far as you know you know something different"!! |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 13, 2024 17:35:32 GMT
Page and new players is just a joke-no long term plan that is why he took L2 Gunter and Williams to World Cup rather than give experience to new players.Only brought in James,Thomas,Broadhead and Harris-Thomas now on naughty step with Lawrence so will not figure and Harris not international level.Low,Savage and Cullen only figured in the virtual B International against Gibraltar. Page knows after Wales L2 at best will be his level-so in reality acting like a league manager who will not play youngsters as afraid of sack-will not give opportunities to youngsters.Of the players who played against Poland only Johnson,James and Broadhead did not go to Euro 21.Page is holding us back so much and the FAW are just putting their head in the sand about the whole thing. The idea that we should have taken youngsters to Qatar instead of Gunter & Jonny is utterly ridiculous |
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 13, 2024 19:38:21 GMT
Page and new players is just a joke-no long term plan that is why he took L2 Gunter and Williams to World Cup rather than give experience to new players.Only brought in James,Thomas,Broadhead and Harris-Thomas now on naughty step with Lawrence so will not figure and Harris not international level.Low,Savage and Cullen only figured in the virtual B International against Gibraltar. Page knows after Wales L2 at best will be his level-so in reality acting like a league manager who will not play youngsters as afraid of sack-will not give opportunities to youngsters.Of the players who played against Poland only Johnson,James and Broadhead did not go to Euro 21.Page is holding us back so much and the FAW are just putting their head in the sand about the whole thing. The idea that we should have taken youngsters to Qatar instead of Gunter & Jonny is utterly ridiculous Especially as, in addition to Gunter and Williams, we did take two youngsters as well in Cooper and James (plus an offer for Luke Harris to travel). We didn’t need to choose between taking Williams/Gunter or two youngsters, we did both. |
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Post by talyfan on Apr 13, 2024 20:34:02 GMT
Just to confirm there wasn't a confirmed claim why he didn't link up, it could be but it could also be for plenty of other reasons. Started from a completely baseless and unsubstantiated insider sources could be from his arse for instance. There could be a plethora of reasons he wasn't selected or didn't choose to join.
Good form for Lincoln at the time had an outside chance of the play offs might have felt that they best keep him fit into the run in without the possible risk of injury for them.
If we get better info from more reliable sources fair enough.
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Post by dragonsoccer on Apr 13, 2024 22:06:28 GMT
Just to confirm there wasn't a confirmed claim why he didn't link up, it could be but it could also be for plenty of other reasons. Started from a completely baseless and unsubstantiated insider sources could be from his arse for instance. There could be a plethora of reasons he wasn't selected or didn't choose to join. Good form for Lincoln at the time had an outside chance of the play offs might have felt that they best keep him fit into the run in without the possible risk of injury for them. If we get better info from more reliable sources fair enough. "he didn't link up" Joe wasn't injured so therefore just wasn't selected in March 2024 its as simple as that, no question of turning down Wales. As I have said " not being selected for Wales U21s is nothing to do with Scotland" so with the scotland making an enquiry news breaking yesterday you can do the maths |
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Post by talyfan on Apr 13, 2024 23:27:14 GMT
Just to confirm there wasn't a confirmed claim why he didn't link up, it could be but it could also be for plenty of other reasons. Started from a completely baseless and unsubstantiated insider sources could be from his arse for instance. There could be a plethora of reasons he wasn't selected or didn't choose to join. Good form for Lincoln at the time had an outside chance of the play offs might have felt that they best keep him fit into the run in without the possible risk of injury for them. If we get better info from more reliable sources fair enough. "he didn't link up" Joe wasn't injured so therefore just wasn't selected in March 2024 its as simple as that, no question of turning down Wales. As I have said " not being selected for Wales U21s is nothing to do with Scotland" so with the scotland making an enquiry news breaking yesterday you can do the maths Sorry was referring to the Pete O'Rourke article shared in earlier posts on this thread. Not yourself at ds |
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Post by rob on Apr 14, 2024 11:35:40 GMT
Page and new players is just a joke-no long term plan that is why he took L2 Gunter and Williams to World Cup rather than give experience to new players.Only brought in James,Thomas,Broadhead and Harris-Thomas now on naughty step with Lawrence so will not figure and Harris not international level.Low,Savage and Cullen only figured in the virtual B International against Gibraltar. Page knows after Wales L2 at best will be his level-so in reality acting like a league manager who will not play youngsters as afraid of sack-will not give opportunities to youngsters.Of the players who played against Poland only Johnson,James and Broadhead did not go to Euro 21.Page is holding us back so much and the FAW are just putting their head in the sand about the whole thing. The idea that we should have taken youngsters to Qatar instead of Gunter & Jonny is utterly ridiculous It is not-it is called integrating new players into the squad instead of players who are not good enough anymore.It is what international teams do. |
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Post by welwyn on Apr 14, 2024 14:10:55 GMT
Will be very interesting to see what we do with him next season, no matter what league we are in.
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 14, 2024 14:46:26 GMT
The idea that we should have taken youngsters to Qatar instead of Gunter & Jonny is utterly ridiculous It is not-it is called integrating new players into the squad instead of players who are not good enough anymore.It is what international teams do. We did take two additional youngsters though, James and Cooper, plus an offer for Luke Harris to go as well. |
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Post by rob on Apr 14, 2024 17:54:46 GMT
It is not-it is called integrating new players into the squad instead of players who are not good enough anymore.It is what international teams do. We did take two additional youngsters though, James and Cooper, plus an offer for Luke Harris to go as well. For training purposes only-they were not squad members. |
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Post by marsvolta on Apr 14, 2024 21:22:26 GMT
We did take two additional youngsters though, James and Cooper, plus an offer for Luke Harris to go as well. For training purposes only-they were not squad members. They’d have done everything the squad did, training,team talks, socialising with the squad, eating with the squad, basically everything that Gunter and Williams did except put on some shin pads. Unless you’re suggesting that we should have thrown some untried youngsters into our first World Cup since ‘58, then this was the next best thing. |
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Post by rob on Apr 15, 2024 16:49:33 GMT
Missing the point-we qualified for our first World Cup in 64 years so should have taken the strongest squad.Gunter was a brilliant,loyal servant to Wales but was finished in 2022 as shown by Nations League and playing for Reading reserves.Burns or even Gethin Jones would have been better footballing choices.Williams could hardly run without falling down-Cooper or Harris would have been better choices.Page took sentimental squad choices with his negative outlook that little old Wales should just have been glad to be there.We were the unfittest team in the tournament and it was a joke.
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Post by surge on Apr 15, 2024 17:42:45 GMT
Missing the point-we qualified for our first World Cup in 64 years so should have taken the strongest squad.Gunter was a brilliant,loyal servant to Wales but was finished in 2022 as shown by Nations League and playing for Reading reserves.Burns or even Gethin Jones would have been better footballing choices.Williams could hardly run without falling down-Cooper or Harris would have been better choices.Page took sentimental squad choices with his negative outlook that little old Wales should just have been glad to be there.We were the unfittest team in the tournament and it was a joke. I think there was one team which didn't take full squad to World Cup because having players some distance off the squad was seen as more negative than positive for that side; there was France who didn't invite Benzema back because his return might have been a distraction with the possible "will he won't he"; and in previous Euros pretty sure there was a side who switched goalies in last 10 mins of group game so everyone would have a cap - Italy? Different approaches to squad management and different theories about what works best to get best outcome. For some it worked, for some it didn't but don't think there was a side who capped all their squad during the tournament in question. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Apr 18, 2024 13:31:26 GMT
The idea that we should have taken youngsters to Qatar instead of Gunter & Jonny is utterly ridiculous It is not-it is called integrating new players into the squad instead of players who are not good enough anymore.It is what international teams do. No. Taking completely untested players instead of committed experienced international players would have been a mistake, especially if an emergency had happened and we'd had to field them In reality none of them were every getting on the.pitch, and Gunter/Joniesta deserved to be in the squad for their service and what they bring to the group as a whole It's such an odd and ridiculous thing to complain about. It had no bearing on our WC performance, and we did right by two stalwarts |
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Post by winsumluzsum on Apr 19, 2024 10:12:27 GMT
Joniesta was there on merit, having had the best season of his career for goals and assists, and more importantly, staying largely injury free. The fact it was at league two level was largely irrelevant, seeing that he'd proved his quality fir Cymru time after time, including the Nations League game away to Poland where he scored a beaut.
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Post by erasedcitizen on Apr 19, 2024 11:08:42 GMT
It is not-it is called integrating new players into the squad instead of players who are not good enough anymore.It is what international teams do. No. Taking completely untested players instead of committed experienced international players would have been a mistake, especially if an emergency had happened and we'd had to field them In reality none of them were every getting on the.pitch, and Gunter/Joniesta deserved to be in the squad for their service and what they bring to the group as a whole It's such an odd and ridiculous thing to complain about. It had no bearing on our WC performance, and we did right by two stalwarts I tend to agree. If Page had interest in using his wider squad there'd be an argument to make but he barely made use out of it, and continues that way now. Better to bring characters in the dressing room than kids who will just end up gutted they didn't play a single minute. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 19, 2024 11:17:53 GMT
Of the 26 man squad only 17 players played, the idea taking Gunter & Williams over Oliver Cooper/Luke Harris or whoever had any bearing on our performance is nuts
Of the non-core players to play Colwill got about 10 minutes, Joe Morrell played about half an hour and Sorba Thomas got about 30 seconds on the pitch
Page's reluctance to play anyone beyond a select few is a problem and I think it came back to bite us against Poland, but I don't think the World Cup is really the time or place to integrate players into the squad
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Post by fiveattheback on Apr 21, 2024 11:18:42 GMT
Scored again yesterday as Lincoln went into the top 6. 10 league goals in 18 games for him
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Post by winsumluzsum on Apr 21, 2024 18:46:01 GMT
A real beaut too. Carried the ball from deep in his own half to the edge of the penalty area, then a wonderful strike from second phase.
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Post by welwyn on Apr 21, 2024 19:23:08 GMT
Really interesting to see what we do with him in the summer. Think he'll stay with us if we go down (as I expect us to do).
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Post by manulike on Apr 27, 2024 12:58:04 GMT
Massive must-win game today.
So far Lincoln missed a pen and eventually lost 0-2 at home
out of the play-offs
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Post by rob on Apr 30, 2024 19:34:43 GMT
It is not-it is called integrating new players into the squad instead of players who are not good enough anymore.It is what international teams do. No. Taking completely untested players instead of committed experienced international players would have been a mistake, especially if an emergency had happened and we'd had to field them In reality none of them were every getting on the.pitch, and Gunter/Joniesta deserved to be in the squad for their service and what they bring to the group as a whole It's such an odd and ridiculous thing to complain about. It had no bearing on our WC performance, and we did right by two stalwarts Not true-you do not deserve to go to a World Cup for service.Both had been to 2 Euros and both had looked out of their depth in rare appearances 2021-22.Wes Butns or Gethin Jones should have gone ahead of Gunter as they would have more to offer on the field if called on.Joniesta should not gave gone as just retired straight afterwards anyway-nice freebie for sentimentality.Ollie Cooper or another forward should have gone. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on May 1, 2024 10:25:50 GMT
It's a moot point with regards to Gunter, but Joniesta was coming off the back of his best, injury free season. He'd already proven his quality. The mistake, if anything, was not playing him, given his form and fitness.
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 17, 2024 14:09:02 GMT
No. Taking completely untested players instead of committed experienced international players would have been a mistake, especially if an emergency had happened and we'd had to field them In reality none of them were every getting on the.pitch, and Gunter/Joniesta deserved to be in the squad for their service and what they bring to the group as a whole It's such an odd and ridiculous thing to complain about. It had no bearing on our WC performance, and we did right by two stalwarts Not true-you do not deserve to go to a World Cup for service.Both had been to 2 Euros and both had looked out of their depth in rare appearances 2021-22.Wes Butns or Gethin Jones should have gone ahead of Gunter as they would have more to offer on the field if called on.Joniesta should not gave gone as just retired straight afterwards anyway-nice freebie for sentimentality.Ollie Cooper or another forward should have gone. Absolute nonsense I'm afraid |
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Post by rob on May 17, 2024 19:41:27 GMT
Not true-you do not deserve to go to a World Cup for service.Both had been to 2 Euros and both had looked out of their depth in rare appearances 2021-22.Wes Butns or Gethin Jones should have gone ahead of Gunter as they would have more to offer on the field if called on.Joniesta should not gave gone as just retired straight afterwards anyway-nice freebie for sentimentality.Ollie Cooper or another forward should have gone. Absolute nonsense I'm afraid Their time had been-just Page did not have the backbone to tell them that.That's what happens in International football.That is why the replacements in our squad have so few caps-too loyal and so we struggle when a regular is injured. |
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Post by winsumluzsum on May 17, 2024 22:45:28 GMT
Evidence free posturing...
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Post by talyfan on Jul 10, 2024 15:26:57 GMT
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Post by welwyn on Jul 11, 2024 9:10:31 GMT
Given that Peterborough have a massive sell-on, and we got relegated, would be really angry if we sold him rather than have him in the squad.
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