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Post by hooky on Aug 29, 2023 8:03:56 GMT
Just focusing on likely candidates for the first team
Goalkeepers
Ward & Hennssey seemingly remain content being sat on the bench. We desperately need someone new to emerge!
Centre backs
Rodon and Lockyer playing regularly but Mepham and Davies are not. Cabango is playing regularly but likely to remain a back up
Wish Mepham would move on as its obvious he is not deemed good enough as a starter after 3 or so seasons there. Wish Davies would move on to
Full backs
Conor and Sorba (albeit more of a midfielder) playing regularly, Neco not, Norrington Davies still injured. Hope Neco is not just sat on the bench this season.
Midfield
Ampadu, Ramsey, Wilson, Dan James (but missed the last game) playing regularly, Brooks getting a little game time. Jordan James got a start last game. Luke Harris nowhere to be seen, Colwill mainly a sub. We really need Jordan to push on as we need someone better than Morrell to emerge to partner Ampadu unless Ramsey can start showing the discipline needed for that role.
Strikers
Brennan playing regularly, Moore not. Matando getting a little game time. Broadhead is an off the bench option
We could really do with a goalkeeper who has the desire to play games and ability to do a job for us. Neco's lack of game time a concern and wish Mepham (and Moore) would find a club where he would play.
Positives: Return of Brooks - hope he can make the first team at Bournemouth and hopefully the emergence of Mantando as a quality player.
We really could do with one or two talented teens starting to emerge as if you were a betting man then you would bet on us missing the Euros with our squad and especially with our manager, regardless of our play-off wild card. Lets hope Brennan gets the move to Spurs and kills it!
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Post by hooky on Aug 29, 2023 8:16:10 GMT
Oh just to add that it is great to see how positively Leeds fans have taken to both Rodon and Ampadu. Rodon in particular needs this support!
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Post by jimexotic on Aug 29, 2023 10:01:48 GMT
The goalkeeper situation is a massive concern because you can play well enough and do enough to win but if your goalkeeper is rusty or inexperienced that can change things at the drop of a hat, as we saw in the World Cup when Wayne went all Enter The Dragon.
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Post by talyfan on Aug 29, 2023 10:21:04 GMT
We're absolutely fucked to put it bluntly for goalkeepers.
The only eligible goalkeeper whose playing regularly at a decent level is Jonathan Bond. Who I can't see us ever calling up. Even Darlow is second choice!
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Post by morg on Aug 29, 2023 12:42:16 GMT
Not too concerned about Davies. He won't regularly play 90 but looks like he's in Ange's plans, so he'll get game time.(compare Eric Dier's position).Saw him come on at left back at the weekend and was pushing into central midfield when Spurs were in possession very effectively. Looked fit, sharp and used the ball very intelligently.
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 29, 2023 13:43:50 GMT
We're absolutely fucked to put it bluntly for goalkeepers. The only eligible goalkeeper whose playing regularly at a decent level is Jonathan Bond. Who I can't see us ever calling up. Even Darlow is second choice! Bond defected to England so I think that's very unlikely. If you consider the MLS a decent level then surely you consider League Two a decent level too? In which case Owen Evans at Walsall is an eligible keeper playing at a decent level |
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Post by talyfan on Aug 29, 2023 15:10:05 GMT
I'd have no harm in calling Owen Evans up allezlesrouges. Always feel goalkeeper is one of those positions where particularly at professional level there is little disparity in quality between the leagues barring the upper echelons obviously. No harm in having a closer look at him in training. We've called up the likes of Tom King playing in League Two no different in Owens case. |
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Post by conwy10 on Aug 30, 2023 18:00:07 GMT
I think we're in a real mess as a nation to be honest. I can't remember the last time we had so few playing at a decent level. I'm starting to think we need a complete overhaul, but not necesarily at senior level, where do all the U21's go? None are really ready for international football or Premier League, I think we need another Flynn.
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Post by gimli on Aug 31, 2023 8:24:43 GMT
I think we're in a real mess as a nation to be honest. I can't remember the last time we had so few playing at a decent level. I'm starting to think we need a complete overhaul, but not necesarily at senior level, where do all the U21's go? None are really ready for international football or Premier League, I think we need another Flynn. Ultimately this is the result of having a neglected, mostly semi-pro national league. It means we have a tiny pool of professional players compared to most other countries, and are completely reliant on other countries' leagues to develop our players for us. Occasionally we'll get lucky and have a good batch come through together like we did with the old guard, but most of the time we'll struggle. We only ever have what, 20-30ish pro players max playing at a "decent level" (lets say Championship level and above), so if a couple of them get injured or fall down the pecking order at their clubs it has a massive effect on us. I wouldn't be surprised if there are less than 100 fully pro Welsh players in total (excluding youth players). Compare that to Scotland and Ireland who probably have the same if not more pros playing in the English system, plus all the hundreds of pros they have in their own leagues. We desperately need to improve and fully professionalise the Cymru Premier to increase our player pool, give more opportunities to young Welsh players and give them a platform to move on to the bigger leagues. |
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Post by conwy10 on Aug 31, 2023 21:10:06 GMT
I think we're in a real mess as a nation to be honest. I can't remember the last time we had so few playing at a decent level. I'm starting to think we need a complete overhaul, but not necesarily at senior level, where do all the U21's go? None are really ready for international football or Premier League, I think we need another Flynn. Ultimately this is the result of having a neglected, mostly semi-pro national league. It means we have a tiny pool of professional players compared to most other countries, and are completely reliant on other countries' leagues to develop our players for us. Occasionally we'll get lucky and have a good batch come through together like we did with the old guard, but most of the time we'll struggle. We only ever have what, 20-30ish pro players max playing at a "decent level" (lets say Championship level and above), so if a couple of them get injured or fall down the pecking order at their clubs it has a massive effect on us. I wouldn't be surprised if there are less than 100 fully pro Welsh players in total (excluding youth players). Compare that to Scotland and Ireland who probably have the same if not more pros playing in the English system, plus all the hundreds of pros they have in their own leagues. We desperately need to improve and fully professionalise the Cymru Premier to increase our player pool, give more opportunities to young Welsh players and give them a platform to move on to the bigger leagues. We do have Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham. As a Wrexham fan we really could be doing more for the national team. Swansea did amazing things for us once, whilst having an amazing team... probably for cheaper than they have now. |
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Post by fiveattheback on Aug 31, 2023 21:31:18 GMT
Ultimately this is the result of having a neglected, mostly semi-pro national league. It means we have a tiny pool of professional players compared to most other countries, and are completely reliant on other countries' leagues to develop our players for us. Occasionally we'll get lucky and have a good batch come through together like we did with the old guard, but most of the time we'll struggle. We only ever have what, 20-30ish pro players max playing at a "decent level" (lets say Championship level and above), so if a couple of them get injured or fall down the pecking order at their clubs it has a massive effect on us. I wouldn't be surprised if there are less than 100 fully pro Welsh players in total (excluding youth players). Compare that to Scotland and Ireland who probably have the same if not more pros playing in the English system, plus all the hundreds of pros they have in their own leagues. We desperately need to improve and fully professionalise the Cymru Premier to increase our player pool, give more opportunities to young Welsh players and give them a platform to move on to the bigger leagues. We do have Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham. As a Wrexham fan we really could be doing more for the national team. Swansea did amazing things for us once, whilst having an amazing team... probably for cheaper than they have now. Swansea (and Cardiff!) deserve more credit than they get, in reality they're run of the mill Championship clubs, can you imagine asking Preston or Millwall to pump out the number of internationals some Wales fans are expecting from Cardiff and Swansea? |
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Post by wirralwelsh on Aug 31, 2023 23:10:00 GMT
All the young northern Welsh players tend to end up with the Lancashire/scouse academy clubs so there's little hope Wrexham have of keeping them. There were always a few players from Cardiff/Swansea or South Wales in general in the Premier league but seems to be a real dearth of talent from there at the moment. Only Ben Davies at that level who is 30 now and Roberts a little younger.
Seeing as this is the Welsh heartland where most the population resides its concerning this has become a bit of a footballing black hole. Having more regular starters from North Wales (both of them!) is quite unusual to say the least. Literally no premier league first team squad member born in Wales or Swansea at all these days.
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Post by fiveattheback on Sept 1, 2023 10:21:51 GMT
All the young northern Welsh players tend to end up with the Lancashire/scouse academy clubs so there's little hope Wrexham have of keeping them. There were always a few players from Cardiff/Swansea or South Wales in general in the Premier league but seems to be a real dearth of talent from there at the moment. Only Ben Davies at that level who is 30 now and Roberts a little younger. Seeing as this is the Welsh heartland where most the population resides its concerning this has become a bit of a footballing black hole. Having more regular starters from North Wales (both of them!) is quite unusual to say the least. Literally no premier league first team squad member born in Wales or Swansea at all these days. Connor Roberts? |
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Post by gimli on Sept 1, 2023 13:54:58 GMT
Ultimately this is the result of having a neglected, mostly semi-pro national league. It means we have a tiny pool of professional players compared to most other countries, and are completely reliant on other countries' leagues to develop our players for us. Occasionally we'll get lucky and have a good batch come through together like we did with the old guard, but most of the time we'll struggle. We only ever have what, 20-30ish pro players max playing at a "decent level" (lets say Championship level and above), so if a couple of them get injured or fall down the pecking order at their clubs it has a massive effect on us. I wouldn't be surprised if there are less than 100 fully pro Welsh players in total (excluding youth players). Compare that to Scotland and Ireland who probably have the same if not more pros playing in the English system, plus all the hundreds of pros they have in their own leagues. We desperately need to improve and fully professionalise the Cymru Premier to increase our player pool, give more opportunities to young Welsh players and give them a platform to move on to the bigger leagues. As a Wrexham fan we really could be doing more for the national team. Swansea did amazing things for us once, whilst having an amazing team... probably for cheaper than they have now. Yes, but they're still all in the English system. They play English clubs week in week out and fill their squads with English players rather than Welsh ones. It's a real problem that the FAW can have no direct influence on the development of Welsh players at the biggest clubs in Wales. We could do with a few regional full-time FAW-run academies in Wales so that we can take player development into our own hands. |
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Post by gimli on Sept 1, 2023 13:57:22 GMT
We do have Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham. As a Wrexham fan we really could be doing more for the national team. Swansea did amazing things for us once, whilst having an amazing team... probably for cheaper than they have now. Swansea (and Cardiff!) deserve more credit than they get, in reality they're run of the mill Championship clubs, can you imagine asking Preston or Millwall to pump out the number of internationals some Wales fans are expecting from Cardiff and Swansea? That just highlights the problem. We're heavily reliant on a couple of "run of the mill Championship clubs" to produce the bulk of our player pool. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 2, 2023 10:42:08 GMT
We do have Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham. As a Wrexham fan we really could be doing more for the national team. Swansea did amazing things for us once, whilst having an amazing team... probably for cheaper than they have now. Swansea (and Cardiff!) deserve more credit than they get, in reality they're run of the mill Championship clubs, can you imagine asking Preston or Millwall to pump out the number of internationals some Wales fans are expecting from Cardiff and Swansea? No but they're Welsh. I imagine the Preston and Millwall teams are 80% English. I get impressed with teams like Nottingham Forest, Leeds and Tottenham have a couple of Welsh involved. What I expect Cardiff and Swansea to do for the National Team is greater than English teams. |
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Post by conwy10 on Sept 2, 2023 10:47:30 GMT
We do have Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham. As a Wrexham fan we really could be doing more for the national team. Swansea did amazing things for us once, whilst having an amazing team... probably for cheaper than they have now. Yes, but they're still all in the English system. They play English clubs week in week out and fill their squads with English players rather than Welsh ones. It's a real problem that the FAW can have no direct influence on the development of Welsh players at the biggest clubs in Wales. We could do with a few regional full-time FAW-run academies in Wales so that we can take player development into our own hands. The clubs are under control of the fans though. It just seems a given that theyd take a lad wjos 25 and a failed English international who maybe had 3 U21 caps than a young local player. This will be taken as offensive I'm guessing, but it really isnt intended to. Swansea are tipped for lower mid table finish by the bookies, Cardiff expected to be relegated. Its not like what they do now works and Swansea got to Europe with a core of Welsh internationals. Why not try to get players involved who'll give everything for the badge. |
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Post by garynysmon on Sept 2, 2023 10:52:41 GMT
We do have Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and Wrexham. As a Wrexham fan we really could be doing more for the national team. Swansea did amazing things for us once, whilst having an amazing team... probably for cheaper than they have now. Yes, but they're still all in the English system. They play English clubs week in week out and fill their squads with English players rather than Welsh ones. It's a real problem that the FAW can have no direct influence on the development of Welsh players at the biggest clubs in Wales. Bang on. |
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