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Post by toshfan on Sept 14, 2023 13:55:42 GMT
I missed this change and thought that drinking and watching football at UEFA games was not allowed: healthystadia.eu/serving-alcohol-uefa-matches/#:~:text=Agreement%20on%20what%20maximum%20strength,drinks%20per%20person%2C%20per%20visit. In Riga, I lost count of the amount of times that people asked to pass me during the game on their way to a toilet break. Jeez! If I wanted this, I'd spend a fortune and watch the rugby at the Millennium. More seriously, a supporter in the away end was covered in beer after an idiot celebrated the second goal by throwing their beer in the air. Throwing any drink in the air is a moronic thing to do but it is especially unacceptable when it is beer. What if someone had a faith reason for abstaining from alcohol? Nobody deserves to be covered in it. I hope that the FSF will discuss this at their next meeting with the FAW. Yes, I know that neither are the decision makers but they do have an ability to make representations to UEFA. |
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Post by jimbo82 on Sept 14, 2023 14:21:40 GMT
That's really interesting. I bought a beer at the game as I was really thirsty and just assumed it was zero-alcohol. Definitely shouldn't be allowed into the stands whether its alcoholic or not in my opinion - I got rained on myself when that pint went flying after the goal.
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Post by jono on Sept 14, 2023 14:22:18 GMT
What if someone had a faith reason for abstaining from alcohol? They'd have to deal with it. It's never too late for them to get on the ale. |
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Post by welshrover on Sept 14, 2023 14:41:21 GMT
What if someone had a faith reason for abstaining from alcohol? They'd have to deal with it. It's never too late for them to get on the ale. Nice one Jono, makes a nice change to see someone in this day and age who still wants to enjoy themselves and not be a paid up member of the "I'll fight your cause sir" brigade. |
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Post by jimbo82 on Sept 14, 2023 14:57:03 GMT
They'd have to deal with it. It's never too late for them to get on the ale. Nice one Jono, makes a nice change to see someone in this day and age who still wants to enjoy themselves and not be a paid up member of the "I'll fight your cause sir" brigade. Some very enlightened attitudes here, whatever happened to Together Stronger? I personally don't have a problem with drinking alcohol but I absolutely respect the fact that some of my fellow fans might not want to be covered in it. Also, I've never understood the attraction in spending hundreds of pounds to go to a game, only to spend two days drinking non-stop and then be too drunk to actually watch the match. |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Sept 14, 2023 14:57:08 GMT
I have no problem with people drinking at the game, I probably only have one or two at the most as I have enough before and after the game, what does p!ss me off is people chucking it up in the air if we score, I've never understood it, it creates a mess and why would anyone throw a beer away that costs at least a fiver 🤷
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Post by toshfan on Sept 14, 2023 15:01:18 GMT
Some very enlightened attitudes here, whatever happened to Together Stronger? I personally don't have a problem with drinking alcohol but I absolutely respect the fact that some of my fellow fans might not want to be covered in it. Also, I've never understood the attraction in spending hundreds of pounds to go to a game, only to spend two days drinking non-stop and then be too drunk to actually watch the match. I despair at the standard of responses sandwiched in between the 1st and 2nd of yours. I have no problem with drinking either. I drank too much on the Sunday night and early hours of Monday but did so at a bar. But consuming alcohol in front of watching a football match is a mistake and should not be allowed. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 14, 2023 16:02:51 GMT
What if someone had a faith reason for abstaining from alcohol? They'd have to deal with it. It's never too late for them to get on the ale. What a crap and narrow minded viewpoint. |
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Post by jbt95 on Sept 14, 2023 16:04:08 GMT
I really enjoyed the experience of no beer on sale at all in the stadium in Turkey.
No queues for the toilet and no queues for the bar.
No idiots throwing beer everywhere. At Denmark away we had fans throwing beer on our own fans and in Rotterdam fans were purposely throwing beer over onto Dutch below. Much preferred Turkey. I think because we aren’t allowed to drink in sight of the pitch in the UK people take it to the extreme when abroad.
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Post by barneycat1 on Sept 14, 2023 17:21:34 GMT
We have a group of younger fans who go to away games and chuck beer in the air in the concourses.
Pathetic. It needs to be stopped.
Agree on if people throw beer in the air over others during games, or any other time for that matter, they should be punished.
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Post by welshrover on Sept 14, 2023 17:29:19 GMT
You could start a new petition group
Wales Away No Kids
or WANK for short!
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Post by garynysmon on Sept 14, 2023 17:56:38 GMT
The rumour making the rounds in the ground (Riga) was that is was pretty strong stuff too.
In all honesty, as the game was kicking off at almost 10pm, a lot of people would have been wrecked at the game either way. Don't really understand throwing beer though.
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Post by welshrover on Sept 14, 2023 20:30:16 GMT
Don't really understand throwing beer though. No, it's a waste! |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Sept 14, 2023 21:14:38 GMT
The rumour making the rounds in the ground (Riga) was that is was pretty strong stuff too. In all honesty, as the game was kicking off at almost 10pm, a lot of people would have been wrecked at the game either way. Don't really understand throwing beer though. Tbh Gary,we had been out since 1 and obviously had a few but the two pints I had definitely went down my throat mate, definitely a bloody waste and definitely wrong to throw it about. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 15, 2023 9:21:19 GMT
They'd have to deal with it. It's never too late for them to get on the ale. Nice one Jono, makes a nice change to see someone in this day and age who still wants to enjoy themselves and not be a paid up member of the "I'll fight your cause sir" brigade. What if someone is a former addict and it's really important for them not to consume or be covered in beer? What if someone abstains from alcohol on religious grounds? You think they should have to deal with it because it mildly annoys you when other people advocate on their behalf? That's insane level of privilege you're asking for. I don't believe that your right to not be mildly annoyed trumps their right to not be dousted in a substance without their consent |
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Post by aberbeeg on Sept 15, 2023 9:44:27 GMT
Take away the red shirts and it’s basically turned into one big stag party
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 15, 2023 10:54:04 GMT
Its really not like a stag do...were you even there? Split and Riga have been two of the best atmospheres in recent years, probably helped by beer being available. I don't drink while watching but don't have an issue if others do....as long as they don't throw it around. That's just moronic and needs to stop asap
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Post by welshrover on Sept 15, 2023 11:35:54 GMT
Nice one Jono, makes a nice change to see someone in this day and age who still wants to enjoy themselves and not be a paid up member of the "I'll fight your cause sir" brigade. What if someone is a former addict and it's really important for them not to consume or be covered in beer? What if someone abstains from alcohol on religious grounds? You think they should have to deal with it because it mildly annoys you when other people advocate on their behalf? That's insane level of privilege you're asking for. I don't believe that your right to not be mildly annoyed trumps their right to not be dousted in a substance without their consent There are plenty of things people do that annoy the hell out of me but I don't start a campaign against them. I think if I was to start a campaign it would be against people taking offence on someone else's behalf! |
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Post by iot on Sept 15, 2023 12:03:43 GMT
What if someone is a former addict and it's really important for them not to consume or be covered in beer? What if someone abstains from alcohol on religious grounds? You think they should have to deal with it because it mildly annoys you when other people advocate on their behalf? That's insane level of privilege you're asking for. I don't believe that your right to not be mildly annoyed trumps their right to not be dousted in a substance without their consent There are plenty of things people do that annoy the hell out of me but I don't start a campaign against them. I think if I was to start a campaign it would be against people taking offence on someone else's behalf! Irony is that all those people complaining about 'wokeism' are always the biggest moaners around |
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Post by corky on Sept 15, 2023 13:18:20 GMT
Hi guys,
There were a few complaints about beer being thrown in the stadium, it is something that we can bring up next meeting, there were other issues as well concerning female Welsh fans which were unacceptable and will need looking at. Generally though its still a brilliant experience Wales away but there are always unsavoury incidents. Its all about crossing the line between decency, having a good laugh/time and causing distress/upset to others.
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 15, 2023 13:41:21 GMT
Diolch Corky appreciate it
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Post by allezlesrouges on Sept 15, 2023 14:19:06 GMT
What if someone is a former addict and it's really important for them not to consume or be covered in beer? What if someone abstains from alcohol on religious grounds? You think they should have to deal with it because it mildly annoys you when other people advocate on their behalf? That's insane level of privilege you're asking for. I don't believe that your right to not be mildly annoyed trumps their right to not be dousted in a substance without their consent There are plenty of things people do that annoy the hell out of me but I don't start a campaign against them. I think if I was to start a campaign it would be against people taking offence on someone else's behalf! I don't start a campaign either, no one here has started a campaign as far as I'm aware? I guess you imagined that one I'm not offended on anyone's behalf, nothing about this is offensive. I'm saying it's about respecting that other people are different to you and their differences/preferences are worthy of respect For the same reason I wouldn't come up to you and slap you, are the same reasons I think people shouldn't go up to others and chuck beer over them |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 15, 2023 14:36:43 GMT
I wouldn't bother engaging, welshrover was crying about there not being enough straight white men at the football before. Always the victims these types...
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Post by welshrover on Sept 15, 2023 15:04:10 GMT
I wouldn't bother engaging, welshrover was crying about there not being enough straight white men at the football before. Always the victims these types... You ain't got a clue pal. |
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Post by fireboy0610 on Sept 15, 2023 16:51:39 GMT
Diolch Corky appreciate it Seconded. |
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Post by aberbeeg on Sept 15, 2023 17:08:52 GMT
Its really not like a stag do...were you even there? Split and Riga have been two of the best atmospheres in recent years, probably helped by beer being available. I don't drink while watching but don't have an issue if others do....as long as they don't throw it around. That's just moronic and needs to stop asap Unfortunately Corkeys comments only makes for sad reading. Definitely more like a giant stag party these days compared to how it was pre 2016 |
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Post by CrackityJones on Sept 15, 2023 18:23:43 GMT
The pre 2016 trips to Brussels and Cyprus were very similar in numbers and booziness to the recent Croatia and Riga trips. Were you at the recent ones?
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Post by welrus on Sept 16, 2023 3:21:17 GMT
I enjoy the fact you can take a beer in. Get in the ground early and at least it means you’re not stuck behind the stand and can sit down and take in the atmosphere.
Throwing beer is another matter its just annoying. And it only takes very few people to make a mess.
The other thing I particularly noticed at Riga was the number of people not actually watching the game. Three guys in front of me didn’t see a ball being kicked. Annoying when tickets are at such a premium. Still overall another great trip.
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Post by aberbeeg on Sept 16, 2023 8:19:25 GMT
The pre 2016 trips to Brussels and Cyprus were very similar in numbers and booziness to the recent Croatia and Riga trips. Were you at the recent ones? Maybe Brussels was similar but Cyprus definitely wasn’t due to the fact that our fans were spread out in various resorts including Larnaca,Aya Napa, Paphos,even North Cyprus. I remember being outside the ground and buses from different resorts arriving at various different times. In places like Riga all Welsh are gathered in the smaller city centre. in most crowds of people your always going to get some idiots unfortunately that’s a fact of life. |
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Post by barneycat1 on Sept 16, 2023 8:28:51 GMT
I enjoy the fact you can take a beer in. Get in the ground early and at least it means you’re not stuck behind the stand and can sit down and take in the atmosphere. Throwing beer is another matter its just annoying. And it only takes very few people to make a mess. The other thing I particularly noticed at Riga was the number of people not actually watching the game. Three guys in front of me didn’t see a ball being kicked. Annoying when tickets are at such a premium. Still overall another great trip. We were in section N, we actually moved seats because two Welsh “fans” never stopped talking to each other without watching or caring about the game. So loud and annoying. Peed us off. |
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