rncfc
the carls
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Post by rncfc on May 20, 2024 9:18:39 GMT
Stumbled across this name, he scored a goal to win PAOK the Greek title at the weekend.
Attacking midfielder / striker, La Liga experience.
Has a father with Welsh ancestry. I wonder if he's eligible....
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Post by dragonsoccer on May 20, 2024 9:28:04 GMT
Messaged a contact outside the FAW about the player in August last year, never got it confirmed at the time will make some enquiries
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Post by Belle Vue on May 22, 2024 6:37:52 GMT
He’s eligible
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 23, 2024 13:30:40 GMT
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 23, 2024 13:34:54 GMT
If eligible we should definitely be calling him up, a striker at the top end of the Greek league would likely make him our 2nd best striking option. Olympiacos showing the strength of that league by making the Conference league final this year ahead of Villa
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 23, 2024 13:44:57 GMT
Article here gives a bit of background on his upbringing. His London born father moved to Spain to open an English pub. The article makes a lot of references to him being part English - so his dad definitely identifies as an Englishman. His dad's parents are mentioned in the quote below...
"Brandon was born in Santanyí in the south of the island in February 1995, one of four siblings, and the way he recalls it there was no English at home. “My dad speaks Andalucían Spanish,” he says. “And my English grandparents only really came [back] out a couple of times. My dad was a big football fan and played, although he never got the chance to make it"
The bit where it says "my English grandparents" suggests he wouldn't be eligible, however it's also possible that: - He didn't know the difference between Wales & England when he gave this interview & assumed they were English like his father - His grandparents could be English identifying but one of them could have been born in Wales
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Post by iot on May 23, 2024 14:12:00 GMT
Article here gives a bit of background on his upbringing. His London born father moved to Spain to open an English pub. The article makes a lot of references to him being part English - so his dad definitely identifies as an Englishman. His dad's parents are mentioned in the quote below... "Brandon was born in Santanyí in the south of the island in February 1995, one of four siblings, and the way he recalls it there was no English at home. “My dad speaks Andalucían Spanish,” he says. “And my English grandparents only really came [back] out a couple of times. My dad was a big football fan and played, although he never got the chance to make it" The bit where it says "my English grandparents" suggests he wouldn't be eligible, however it's also possible that: - He didn't know the difference between Wales & England when he gave this interview & assumed they were English like his father - His grandparents could be English identifying but one of them could have been born in Wales Or he’s said British, and the journalist has translated that to English. Same diff for most people around the world
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Post by bale-droed on May 23, 2024 14:14:09 GMT
Article here gives a bit of background on his upbringing. His London born father moved to Spain to open an English pub. The article makes a lot of references to him being part English - so his dad definitely identifies as an Englishman. His dad's parents are mentioned in the quote below... "Brandon was born in Santanyí in the south of the island in February 1995, one of four siblings, and the way he recalls it there was no English at home. “My dad speaks Andalucían Spanish,” he says. “And my English grandparents only really came [back] out a couple of times. My dad was a big football fan and played, although he never got the chance to make it" The bit where it says "my English grandparents" suggests he wouldn't be eligible, however it's also possible that: - He didn't know the difference between Wales & England when he gave this interview & assumed they were English like his father - His grandparents could be English identifying but one of them could have been born in Wales Or he’s said British, and the journalist has translated that to English. Same diff for most people around the world If he said British and the journalist translated it to English then fair enough welcome Brandon. If he was an adult man who didn't know the difference between England and Wales when eligible for Wales he can fuck off. This thread is about the become the Paul Mullins thread.
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Post by welshrover on May 23, 2024 16:15:44 GMT
Or he’s said British, and the journalist has translated that to English. Same diff for most people around the world If he said British and the journalist translated it to English then fair enough welcome Brandon. If he was an adult man who didn't know the difference between England and Wales when eligible for Wales he can fuck off. This thread is about the become the Paul Mullins thread. Do you think it is acceptable as a moderator to tell a potential Wales player to "fuck off". Let's hope these potential players never read this board.
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 23, 2024 19:01:35 GMT
Or he’s said British, and the journalist has translated that to English. Same diff for most people around the world If he said British and the journalist translated it to English then fair enough welcome Brandon. If he was an adult man who didn't know the difference between England and Wales when eligible for Wales he can fuck off. This thread is about the become the Paul Mullins thread. He's Andalusian Spanish through and through, he doesn't even speak English - I very much doubt he was taught about the regionality of the UK growing up. Were you taught about the Basque Country, Galicia etc...? I don't think berating him for not knowing that is a helpful attitude - where would we be if we didn't accept Kieffer for proudly representing England C? Also this is nothing like Mullin - the question mark over Mullin is his ability. This guy is playing at a better level, so there's no question there. If he's eligible and we give him a bit of education then we might have a tidy player on our hands
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Post by iot on May 23, 2024 19:19:49 GMT
Think we're all jumping to lots of conclusions based on Belle Vue saying he's eligible. Considering some of Belle Vue's other posts (including the weird obsession / personal vendetta against Mooney), I'd take that with a pinch of salt. DS hasn't had any confirmation about his eligibility
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 23, 2024 20:03:13 GMT
Think we're all jumping to lots of conclusions based on Belle Vue saying he's eligible. Considering some of Belle Vue's other posts (including the weird obsession / personal vendetta against Mooney), I'd take that with a pinch of salt. DS hasn't had any confirmation about his eligibility Don't think anyone is assuming he's eligible mate. Welsh ancestry could mean anything - grandparents, great grandparents. Just interesting to speculate
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Post by bale-droed on May 24, 2024 12:14:52 GMT
If he said British and the journalist translated it to English then fair enough welcome Brandon. If he was an adult man who didn't know the difference between England and Wales when eligible for Wales he can fuck off. This thread is about the become the Paul Mullins thread. Do you think it is acceptable as a moderator to tell a potential Wales player to "fuck off". Let's hope these potential players never read this board. I said he's welcome if he knows the difference between England and Wales and identifies as having Welsh heritage
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 24, 2024 15:42:27 GMT
Do you think it is acceptable as a moderator to tell a potential Wales player to "fuck off". Let's hope these potential players never read this board. I said he's welcome if he knows the difference between England and Wales and identifies as having Welsh heritage If that's the criteria then a lot of our squad weren't welcome when they joined up with us in your eyes then. This lad is Spanish & doesn't even speak English apparently - the chances of him previously identifying as Welsh is very slim, but if by a quirk he's eligible for us then that's our potential gain
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Post by wirralwelsh on May 24, 2024 22:59:10 GMT
All our strikers, or potential strikers these days seem to be in the tenuous Welsh category. What happened to the age of Hughes, Rush, Saunders and Bellamy?
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Post by bale-droed on May 25, 2024 4:35:04 GMT
I said he's welcome if he knows the difference between England and Wales and identifies as having Welsh heritage If that's the criteria then a lot of our squad weren't welcome when they joined up with us in your eyes then. This lad is Spanish & doesn't even speak English apparently - the chances of him previously identifying as Welsh is very slim, but if by a quirk he's eligible for us then that's our potential gain If he identifies as Spanish but says I have Welsh heritage he's welcome in my eyes if he says I'm Spanish but have English heritage when it's infact Welsh because he doesn't know the difference then of course he can fuck off. What would be so hard to understand about that ? He's welcome with open arms if he's proud of his slight Welsh heritage as is any other player no matter place of birth. If someone born in England is proud of his Welsh heritage he's is of course welcome. If someone born in France says my grandparents are English when in fact they are Welsh when in fact Welsh he could also fuck off.
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Post by bale-droed on May 25, 2024 4:37:37 GMT
All our strikers, or potential strikers these days seem to be in the tenuous Welsh category. What happened to the age of Hughes, Rush, Saunders and Bellamy? That's the real question isnt it? Where are all the year round 3g pitches in the working class heavily populated areas? Why do we not have our own professional league of 8 teams with academies ? Why do we rely on England still? More foreign players in English academies now from a younger age so we must help develop Welsh lads more.
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Post by surge on May 25, 2024 9:12:08 GMT
The best and worst thing about this site is how deep a thread can become, how heavy the topics discussed, when it's about a 29 year old who has spent most of their life being an okay player in Spanish second division.
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Post by CrackityJones on May 25, 2024 9:38:28 GMT
Its given me a good giggle. He’s probably not even eligible
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Post by welshrover on May 25, 2024 11:53:10 GMT
Perhaps our moderator was fortunate not to endure the schooling in Wales that I suffered when it was controlled by Westminster, coupled with being raised in a part of Wales overrun with English incomers.
No mention of Welsh history or current affairs etc, so if I had no insight into all things Welsh what hope does someone schooled in Spain have.
I would hazard a guess that 99% of the people I went to school with would have no idea who Eileen Beasley is as an example.
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Post by allezlesrouges on May 25, 2024 12:28:19 GMT
If that's the criteria then a lot of our squad weren't welcome when they joined up with us in your eyes then. This lad is Spanish & doesn't even speak English apparently - the chances of him previously identifying as Welsh is very slim, but if by a quirk he's eligible for us then that's our potential gain If he identifies as Spanish but says I have Welsh heritage he's welcome in my eyes if he says I'm Spanish but have English heritage when it's infact Welsh because he doesn't know the difference then of course he can fuck off. What would be so hard to understand about that ? He's welcome with open arms if he's proud of his slight Welsh heritage as is any other player no matter place of birth. If someone born in England is proud of his Welsh heritage he's is of course welcome. If someone born in France says my grandparents are English when in fact they are Welsh when in fact Welsh he could also fuck off. Well we know his dad was born in London, what if one of his grandparents is English through and through and the other is a borderlands Welsh person who never felt made a song and dance of where they were born? It's entirely possible and I don't think it's useful to berate him for that, but he would be eligible under those criteria
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