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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 15:09:23 GMT
Well done Jess Fishlock! Jess will be the first ever player to get a century of caps for Wales if she plays today.... www.bbc.com/sport/football/39343279 Seattle Reign midfielder Jess Fishlock is set to win her 100th cap when Wales Women host Northern Ireland on Wednesday. Fishlock, 30, will become the first Wales international to reach a century of senior caps if she plays. Wales also face the same opponents on Friday, 7 April with both games played at Ystrad Mynach. Yeovil Town striker Helen Ward was not included after picking up an injury during the Cyprus Cup in March. 'Fishlock should be a national treasure' Kath Morgan, the first Welsh woman to top 50 caps paid tribute to Fishlock, saying: "I know what Jess has been through. "I know all the trials and tribulations and the injuries and the fact she's trying to make a career travelling the world playing football. "It is a massive, massive commitment and dedication and personally I feel in the world of women's football she should be a national treasure." Matikainen pays homage to Fishlock Former Wales Women's manager Jarmo Matikainen had Fishlock as captain during his four-year tenure. He told the Football Association of Wales: "Jess has this fantastic passion for playing for Wales, and she was brilliant for us in that respect. "Playing for her country is so important to her. She has this incredible respect for it means to represent her country, and her commitment to Wales is admirable. "During my time with Wales, Jess always displayed a real team and work ethic in everything she did, and it's fantastic to see her reaching 100 caps." |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Apr 5, 2017 19:16:29 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 19:46:14 GMT
Great goal!
Fantastic achievement.
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Post by CrackityJones on Apr 5, 2017 20:23:40 GMT
What a milestone, congratulations to her!!
That's some finish as well. Da iawn all round.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Apr 5, 2017 21:40:33 GMT
What a great finish!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 11:11:29 GMT
Wow! What a way to cement your place in the history books. |
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Post by 1gwaunview on Apr 6, 2017 12:33:38 GMT
Congrats to Jess Fishlock. Quite an achievement with more to come.
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Post by grifftinfoilhat on Apr 7, 2017 11:05:18 GMT
Well done Jess. Only 30, so plenty more to come! Annoyingly I'm in Ystrad and only just found out about an international football game that kicked off at 11 AM down the road. What sort of a kick off time is that!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 8:28:16 GMT
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Post by CrackityJones on Jun 10, 2018 7:20:47 GMT
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Post by manulike on Jun 10, 2018 11:34:39 GMT
Services to football and the LGBT community. In a world where homophobia is still the norm. Well done, Jess!
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Post by cymru98 on Jun 10, 2018 13:54:15 GMT
Fully deserved, hopefully she can go all the way and qualify with Wales  |
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Post by dai on Aug 16, 2019 9:41:57 GMT
Did anyone watch Gareth Thomas' documentary on homophobia in football last night? Fishlock spoke well, but she has one of the strangest accents I've heard! Like a french-american cross. Where did she grow up??
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Post by allezlesrouges on Aug 16, 2019 10:29:19 GMT
Did anyone watch Gareth Thomas' documentary on homophobia in football last night? Fishlock spoke well, but she has one of the strangest accents I've heard! Like a french-american cross. Where did she grow up?? Born in Cardiff but lived in Lyon and Seattle so that should explain the accent! |
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Post by georgetm1 on Aug 16, 2019 10:41:00 GMT
BBC Wales have got all the womens Euro qualifiers home and away.
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Post by hooky on Jul 15, 2024 23:11:26 GMT
To do what she has done in a Welsh shirt over her career (most of which were in the context of very mediocre Welsh teams until the last few years) is incredible
44 goals from midfield (part of which was as a holding midfielder) is unbelievable. Then you add the many quality assists to that. Then what is mind blowing is the high quality of many of her goals and how important many of her strikes were - coming as they did in key games at key moments.
Then what is even more incredible is she is 37 going on 38 but has contributed many key strikes of immense quality in recent years, typically after just stepping off transatlantic flights! Bosnia WC play off, Ukraine away, Croatia away - absolutely brilliant goals with fantastic technique and execution and then you have many almost moments where she has hit the post / bar, including a strike that hit the corner of the goal with minutes remaining, which if it had gone in would have earned us a 1-1 draw away to France in Paris in the WC qualifiers!
On top of this, despite being the best striker of the ball by a country mile, she lets someone else take the penalties!
Surely she breaks the goalscoring record against Kosovo today, albeit it would be just like her to provide 5 assists instead!
Some men will sneer, but she is just as iconic a footballer for Welsh women's football as Bale was for the men's team. I pray that we make the next Euros as she totally deserves it! Her quality and incredible strikes certainly get me out of my seat - its a privilege to watch a sporting great give so many great moments and to care as much about Wales as she does makes it all the sweeter! Good luck Jess!
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jul 16, 2024 12:36:00 GMT
Well said.
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Post by surge on Jul 16, 2024 18:17:35 GMT
8 minutes into the game and Fishlock has broken the record.
Some of her touches and movement would indicate a Spanish mindset. Very sharp and good touch, even at this slightly older age.
She truly is a Welsh and footballing legend.
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jul 16, 2024 22:14:14 GMT
A legend of the women's game certainly. It's the comparisons with Bale and what we've been seeing with Spain at the Euros is where it gets a bit silly and cringe. Not massively surprising to see on this forum though to be honest.
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Post by melynwy on Jul 17, 2024 8:02:48 GMT
A legend of the women's game certainly. It's the comparisons with Bale and what we've been seeing with Spain at the Euros is where it gets a bit silly and cringe. Not massively surprising to see on this forum though to be honest. There’s nothing silly about a statement such as she is just as iconic a footballer for Welsh women's football as Bale was for the men's team. and neither is it silly to say that someone has a ‘Spanish style’. That is very obviously not the same as saying “good enough to play for Spain”. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 17, 2024 11:05:01 GMT
Most capped Welsh player of all time, highest Welsh goalscorer of all time. The women face so many barriers to playing football, and that's what makes these achievements even more impressive. Further still, she's a midfielder - a deep lying midfielder at times. That makes her goal record insane!
She is a bonafide Welsh icon, that's not up for debate. This thread started in 2017 and all the comments were glowingly positive back then. I think it's a damning state of affairs that now in 2024 female players/teams aren't freely allowed to be praised for their achievements without someone politicising/criticising them in equal measure
It's like the tabloids have tricked people into politicising things when it's a woman who has done it. It's sad really
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Post by surge on Jul 17, 2024 11:13:29 GMT
Is this the only individual thread for one of our women's players?
Think of the players who have had longer threads without representing Wales (yet), which probably shows we have some way to go in supporting the women's team and shows the wider world our women's players are working in. Turning up over 150 times for the love of football/her nation in that environment is to be admired.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jul 17, 2024 16:01:35 GMT
Most capped Welsh player of all time, highest Welsh goalscorer of all time. The women face so many barriers to playing football, and that's what makes these achievements even more impressive. Further still, she's a midfielder - a deep lying midfielder at times. That makes her goal record insane! She is a bonafide Welsh icon, that's not up for debate. This thread started in 2017 and all the comments were glowingly positive back then. I think it's a damning state of affairs that now in 2024 female players/teams aren't freely allowed to be praised for their achievements without someone politicising/criticising them in equal measure It's like the tabloids have tricked people into politicising things when it's a woman who has done it. It's sad really I agree with all of that apart from the first sentence. It really makes no sense at any time to put the women's game and the men's game on a single scale of evaluation. It only makes sense to look at them as completely separate things, especially at this point in time when the women's game is still in its infancy, albeit that it's catching up. Fishlock is an icon of the women's game for certain, and deserves the praise she getting. |
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Post by allezlesrouges on Jul 17, 2024 16:44:02 GMT
Most capped Welsh player of all time, highest Welsh goalscorer of all time. The women face so many barriers to playing football, and that's what makes these achievements even more impressive. Further still, she's a midfielder - a deep lying midfielder at times. That makes her goal record insane! She is a bonafide Welsh icon, that's not up for debate. This thread started in 2017 and all the comments were glowingly positive back then. I think it's a damning state of affairs that now in 2024 female players/teams aren't freely allowed to be praised for their achievements without someone politicising/criticising them in equal measure It's like the tabloids have tricked people into politicising things when it's a woman who has done it. It's sad really I agree with all of that apart from the first sentence. It really makes no sense at any time to put the women's game and the men's game on a single scale of evaluation. It only makes sense to look at them as completely separate things, especially at this point in time when the women's game is still in its infancy, albeit that it's catching up. Fishlock is an icon of the women's game for certain, and deserves the praise she getting. Well I'm not really putting them on a single scale of evaluation by doing that, and obviously it makes no sense to. It's still possible to compare comparative achievements It seems harder to get caps in the men's game when you look at the fact that 6 women are over 100 caps, and only 3 men are. But then again the men have benefitted from qualifying for tournaments in that regard. Had we failed to qualify for any tournaments we still wouldn't have a male over 100 caps In that respect the fact Fishlock has over 150 despite never playing at a tournament is an achievement that is worthy of comparison. It shows how dedicated & committed she is to Wales, and her ability to stay for and retain quality together with longevity just highlights what an achievement this is - and for me shows why she is a legend I'm not saying she would thrive in the men's game, but is her caps achievement & goalscoring record from midfield is good enough to be worthy of comparison to men's players for sure |
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Post by kracken88 on Jul 17, 2024 18:52:29 GMT
I feel I amm definitely guilty of comparing men and women in sports,I'm watching cricket now on BBC and I found myself thinking shit she's only bowling at 50 mph,but then I forgot all that crap and just watched,and I'm enjoying it ,I like cricket so that obviously helps
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jul 17, 2024 18:57:42 GMT
I think your generosity of spirit is commendable and I agree that Fishlock's dedication to Cymru is outstanding by any standards, but her achievements are in the context of a women's game still in its infancy.
Stephen J Gould, the paleontologist, has written some excellent entertaining books that explain the quirks of evolution in a very engaging way. He was also a massive baseball fan, and very nerdy when it came to the statistics of the game, from which he drew parallels with evolution. One of his insights was how most of the exceptional performers of all time, statistically, played in the early history of the game. Their records may never be beaten. The reason why, is that they excelled at a time when the general standard was low, so it was so much easier to stand out from the average player. The same could be said of football. It's been said of John Charles that he was World class as both a striker and a centre half. Nowadays that is pretty much impossible because of the degree of specialisation and the difference in standard between the very best players and average players being so much greater in the past than nowadays.
So, Fishlock is a great of the women's game that is still in its infancy. In 20 years time the women's game will be unrecognisable from the current game. That's no slight on the game as it stands, it's inevitable that it is where it's at. Given that the level of competition will be so much greater the chances are that Fishlock's caps and goals records will stand the test of time. She will remain an iconic figure I'm sure, just as John Charles is one in the men's game. But there is a context for their achievements that is worth exploring.
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Post by winsumluzsum on Jul 17, 2024 19:00:15 GMT
I feel I amm definitely guilty of comparing men and women in sports,I'm watching cricket now on BBC and I found myself thinking shit she's only bowling at 50 mph,but then I forgot all that crap and just watched,and I'm enjoying it ,I like cricket so that obviously helps Exactly. I enjoy women's football because I try my best not to compare it to the men's game, as it's an unhelpful and unfair comparison. In 20 years time the gap will be much smaller, but even then it will be pointless to make direct comparisons. |
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Post by kracken88 on Jul 17, 2024 19:20:05 GMT
Yes comparisons are stupid,I mean why would you want to watch a mens cricket team bowling 90 mph against a woman's team,it would be ridiculous,as long as sport is about two teams of roughly the same abilities it can be enjoyable,I watched France men beat someone 14-0 and that was pointless, although a shock giant killing as a great sporting thing too
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jul 17, 2024 19:22:18 GMT
A legend of the women's game certainly. It's the comparisons with Bale and what we've been seeing with Spain at the Euros is where it gets a bit silly and cringe. Not massively surprising to see on this forum though to be honest. There’s nothing silly about a statement such as she is just as iconic a footballer for Welsh women's football as Bale was for the men's team. and neither is it silly to say that someone has a ‘Spanish style’. That is very obviously not the same as saying “good enough to play for Spain”. Everything's obvious to you isn't it. What's silly is making comparisons from a different sport in an attempt to elevate women's football beyond where it merits. You don't see anyone mentioning any of our age grade players in the same sentence as our greatest ever player. But why not? They're already playing at a higher standard than the women. Has anyone here actually watched and studied Spanish women's football? I'm guessing not. When someone says "Spanish style" they are referring to what they've seen in the men's game, so why even mention it here? |
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Post by mrpicton79 on Jul 17, 2024 19:24:59 GMT
Most capped Welsh player of all time, highest Welsh goalscorer of all time. The women face so many barriers to playing football, and that's what makes these achievements even more impressive. Further still, she's a midfielder - a deep lying midfielder at times. That makes her goal record insane! She is a bonafide Welsh icon, that's not up for debate. This thread started in 2017 and all the comments were glowingly positive back then. I think it's a damning state of affairs that now in 2024 female players/teams aren't freely allowed to be praised for their achievements without someone politicising/criticising them in equal measure It's like the tabloids have tricked people into politicising things when it's a woman who has done it. It's sad really I agree with all of that apart from the first sentence. It really makes no sense at any time to put the women's game and the men's game on a single scale of evaluation. It only makes sense to look at them as completely separate things, especially at this point in time when the women's game is still in its infancy, albeit that it's catching up. Fishlock is an icon of the women's game for certain, and deserves the praise she getting. I mean you're not wrong, but good luck getting that point through to him 👍😅 |
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