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Post by saints19 on Jun 9, 2011 15:54:08 GMT
Agreed. Not often I say this, but Abbandonato has produced a good, fact-based article there.
I notice that, again, this was first being discussed on here, like the 'Kerr for Wales manager' rumour reported by Abbandonato (which I had been trumpeting on here) which did not appear to originate from another alternative, independent source.
I swear Abbandonato gets his ideas from here. Where are you, Paul? Show yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2011 16:43:00 GMT
Agreed. Not often I say this, but Abbandonato has produced a good, fact-based article there. I notice that, again, this was first being discussed on here, like the 'Kerr for Wales manager' rumour reported by Abbandonato (which I had been trumpeting on here) which did not appear to originate from another alternative, independent source. I swear Abbandonato gets his ideas from here. Where are you, Paul? Show yourself. Yes, the thing that pisses me off is that it is a good article and hits the nail firmly on the head. But its all stuff that I (and a couple of others) have been saying for months. Most obviously while everyone was crowing about a physio who had worked with Holland and Barcelona I was asking where the wise old head was that would provide some real guidance to Speed. There isnt one and its a massive failing because Speed needs a plan B. Preferably to get a new plan A and use his 4-3-3 turgid passing as plan B when we are actually in a comfortable position and can afford to play like that. It pisses me off because sorting Wales out is not rocket science, the pieces to the puzzle are mostly there (admittedly bar a world class striker, one of the main difference between us and Montenegro) but the powers that be (the FAW and Speed) act like its the biggest challenge in world football to get a competent group of players to play like a team and get results. I hope this is the start of some real agitation by Bananaman to hold the FAW to some bloody accountability in their decision making. In some ways its harsh to get on Speed's back so early- but it needs to be done because he doesnt have the luxury of time due to the precarious position we are in. We MUST have results. NOW. He has the tools so he cant complain about the sort of players that Tosh started out with. |
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Jun 10, 2011 16:44:51 GMT
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Post by flynnfan on Jun 10, 2011 17:11:45 GMT
Yeah, Bananaman's best article for a while. Best bit: 'I certainly haven't lost confidence in the quality of player at our disposal. They just have to be manged properly to get the best out of them' 100% right.
I wonder if Bananaman does sneak peeks at the apostle? It would be great if he joined in! Come on Paul, join up, it'll be a laugh. (user name: Bananaman would be perfect!)
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Jul 3, 2011 13:14:11 GMT
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 3, 2011 13:23:47 GMT
So we'Re still just ahead of the Faroes in pot 5 then? Anyone know if these are the last rankings to come out before the World cup qualifying draw on July 30th?
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Jul 3, 2011 13:40:30 GMT
not sure if they are the last mate would of thought so its once every month and a half aint it summit like that
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Post by saints19 on Jul 3, 2011 13:55:44 GMT
Surprising that we're ahead. We're both joined on points as was predicted, but it had been said that we'd be behind on fractions. We may just have been reprieved. On the other hand that table could be wrong. The draw's in a couple of weeks so we'll find out then.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Jul 3, 2011 14:02:24 GMT
the table is defo correct mate
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Post by robshrew on Jul 3, 2011 14:54:18 GMT
gutted were 114th  but how can northen ireland move up rankings when we beat them |
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Post by stu on Jul 3, 2011 17:58:23 GMT
This is just a repost of the Fifa rankings from the other day.
Apparently the Faroes actually have a higher points total (by a tenth or so) but when it was rounded down Wales were ranked above them.
The one that counts is the end of this month. The Faroes will be rightly pissed off if we are still ahead of them on that one.
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Post by Baxter Cymru on Jul 3, 2011 18:01:26 GMT
what a funny old world the superpower faroe islands pissed off if wales are above them lmao
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Post by cymrupenybont on Jul 4, 2011 8:09:35 GMT
shows how far we've fallen though |
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Post by Bastion on Jul 5, 2011 12:19:12 GMT
Storm in a teacup, FIFA will bottle it and in the completely random and not fixed at all 'draw', the Faroes will, by pure chance, end up in the same group as Wales.
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Sept 14, 2011 21:27:59 GMT
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Post by JLC on Sept 14, 2011 21:35:23 GMT
Not sure about Fifa rankins... But I can see out attendances go up ;D
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Post by blaenrhonddaboyo on Sept 14, 2011 22:45:03 GMT
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Post by stu on Sept 15, 2011 9:39:56 GMT
We had dancing trollops before and at half time during our games several years ago. Bring them back I say! I also remember a few bands playing too. Who can forget GLC  |
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Post by stu on Oct 8, 2011 12:30:51 GMT
For those that are interested in the the rankings Fifa have added an interactive tool to their site. Not only can you see how many points you have won depending on the results for upcoming games but it also shows you how it's all worked out. www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/index.htmlMy guess is that we should make the top 60 based on beating the Swiss. If we can beat Bulgaria as well then we could be in the top 50 for the first time since 2003 and book our place in pot 4 already for the next UEFA draw. |
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Post by scoop76 on Oct 8, 2011 12:54:31 GMT
Anyone else find it slightly frustrating that the World Cup draw was made at the halfway stage in this campaign? We'd be seeded higher if the draw was in November.
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Post by saints19 on Oct 8, 2011 12:58:47 GMT
Burkina Faso are still 41st and Panama have now climbed to 53rd.
Sorry, but these rankings are a total and utter farce. And climbing 60+ places by virtue of 3 wins and a defeat (as we could do) would be the ultimate example of their farcicality.
Utter joke that seedings for WC2014 were based on this system. Totally indefensible and the FAW must lobby hard to ensure that it never happens again and that the far more accurate co-efficient measure is used instead. Use our influence on the IFAB if applicable, alert the other home nations (Northern Ireland, in decline, must surely be particularly fearful of suffering), and contact FAs throughout Europe to try and achieve broad agreement not to use such a ridiculous system in future.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2011 13:14:41 GMT
Burkina Faso are still 41st and Panama have now climbed to 53rd. Sorry, but these rankings are a total and utter farce. And climbing 60+ places by virtue of 3 wins and a defeat (as we could do) would be the ultimate example of their farcicality. Utter joke that seedings for WC2014 were based on this system. Totally indefensible and the FAW must lobby hard to ensure that it never happens again and that the far more accurate co-efficient measure is used instead. Use our influence on the IFAB if applicable, alert the other home nations (Northern Ireland, in decline, must surely be particularly fearful of suffering), and contact FAs throughout Europe to try and achieve broad agreement not to use such a ridiculous system in future. Agreed, a swing of 60 places based on two weeks worth of results? Madness, the thing is so temporary and basically reflects who is doing well the minute the list was compiled. One matchday later and the whole landscape has changed. |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Oct 11, 2011 21:37:41 GMT
Are we going to be in the top 50's now?  ??5 |
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Post by stu on Oct 11, 2011 21:49:50 GMT
Are we going to be in the top 50's now? ??5 If you look at the top link then select Wales, enter the scores at the bottom and it puts our points on 619. Which would put us 42nd based on LAST MONTHS points. So I reckon 50 is doable but it all depends how everyone else did. Edgar will have an update in a few days on his blog. |
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Post by marsvolta on Oct 11, 2011 21:52:47 GMT
Anyone else find it slightly frustrating that the World Cup draw was made at the halfway stage in this campaign? We'd be seeded higher if the draw was in November. even more frustrating is the fact that by the time the next draw is made these results would have dropped off the system and unless we keep on winning we'll be ranked lower again. |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Oct 11, 2011 21:58:18 GMT
If you look at the top link then select Wales, enter the scores at the bottom and it puts our points on 619. Which would put us 42nd based on LAST MONTHS points. So I reckon 50 is doable but it all depends how everyone else did. Edgar will have an update in a few days on his blog.
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Post by saints19 on Oct 11, 2011 22:36:07 GMT
We would have been in the fourth or even third pot had the draw been next month. That really does take the piss, we are not three pots better than we were a couple of months ago.
Why the fuck did UEFA use such a volatile system to determine seeding? They really are clueless.
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Post by ontheroadagain on Oct 11, 2011 22:38:02 GMT
We would have been in the fourth or even third pot had the draw been next month. That really does take the piss, we are not three pots better than we were a couple of months ago. Why the fuck did UEFA use such a volatile system to determine seeding? They really are clueless. Cos they are admistrators And crap administrators at that!! |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Oct 11, 2011 22:54:43 GMT
Cos they are admistrators And crap administrators at that!! THEY ARE ALSO A BUNCH OF CROOKS ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by ontheroadagain on Oct 11, 2011 22:56:45 GMT
Burkina Faso are still 41st and Panama have now climbed to 53rd. Sorry, but these rankings are a total and utter farce. And climbing 60+ places by virtue of 3 wins and a defeat (as we could do) would be the ultimate example of their farcicality. Utter joke that seedings for WC2014 were based on this system. Totally indefensible and the FAW must lobby hard to ensure that it never happens again and that the far more accurate co-efficient measure is used instead. Use our influence on the IFAB if applicable, alert the other home nations (Northern Ireland, in decline, must surely be particularly fearful of suffering), and contact FAs throughout Europe to try and achieve broad agreement not to use such a ridiculous system in future. Agreed, a swing of 60 places based on two weeks worth of results? Madness, the thing is so temporary and basically reflects who is doing well the minute the list was compiled. One matchday later and the whole landscape has changed. I thought that these rankings were meant to smooth out the reults over the longer period. But, as stated above it looks as if we could be breaking into the top 50. Could be the biggest movers over this month and the last 2 months. Back where we belong but not for when it mattered, the World Cup seedings. PS The jocks would be on 615 |
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but how can northen ireland move up rankings when we beat them
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