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Post by llannerch on May 25, 2012 12:19:50 GMT
Without trying to be direspectful the quality in a premier league reserve match is probably higher than most WPL games. Quality? Probably. Intensity? Hmm. Competitiveness makes a difference. Reserve games are about fitness, avoiding injury and doing something to catch the coach's eye, not necessarily putting in a 90 minute shift |
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Post by Tim P on May 25, 2012 12:27:02 GMT
Without trying to be direspectful the quality in a premier league reserve match is probably higher than most WPL games. Quality? Probably. Intensity? Hmm. Competitiveness makes a difference. Reserve games are about fitness, avoiding injury and doing something to catch the coach's eye, not necessarily putting in a 90 minute shift Agreed. Still, a summer move could lead to some of the more talented Welsh players playing some games on loan in the WPL... mixing the quality with the intensity. |
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Post by newaddingtonwelsh on Jun 9, 2012 12:06:47 GMT
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Post by stu on Jun 13, 2012 18:13:30 GMT
senedd.assemblywales.org/documents/s7161/Consultation%20Response%20-%20CELG4%20WPL%2015%20S4C.pdf
2.4 S4C does not believe that a move to summer football will greatly enhance the viewing experience. Such a move
may attract higher quality players who want to play outside of the traditional season and offer better playing
surfaces, but S4C doubts that it would raise the profile of the League within local communities as fewer people
watch television during the longer summer evenings.There you go, complete short termism. What they fail to grasp is that a switch to summer football could lead to increased crowds at the games and the actual league improving as a whole. Both of which will lead to more people watching the games on S4C when they cannot makes the games.
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Post by Tim P on Jun 13, 2012 19:27:13 GMT
senedd.assemblywales.org/documents/s7161/Consultation%20Response%20-%20CELG4%20WPL%2015%20S4C.pdf
2.4 S4C does not believe that a move to summer football will greatly enhance the viewing experience. Such a move
may attract higher quality players who want to play outside of the traditional season and offer better playing
surfaces, but S4C doubts that it would raise the profile of the League within local communities as fewer people
watch television during the longer summer evenings.There you go, complete short termism. What they fail to grasp is that a switch to summer football could lead to increased crowds at the games and the actual league improving as a whole. Both of which will lead to more people watching the games on S4C when they cannot makes the games. That is absolutely gobsmacking ignorance from S4C. Stu, have you thought about contacting someone at the FAW with regards to this? |
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Post by stu on Jun 13, 2012 19:44:27 GMT
Well it was taken from their "contribution" to the Senedd enquiry so they should already know.
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Post by flynnfan on Jun 13, 2012 22:24:23 GMT
senedd.assemblywales.org/documents/s7161/Consultation%20Response%20-%20CELG4%20WPL%2015%20S4C.pdf
2.4 S4C does not believe that a move to summer football will greatly enhance the viewing experience. Such a move
may attract higher quality players who want to play outside of the traditional season and offer better playing
surfaces, but S4C doubts that it would raise the profile of the League within local communities as fewer people
watch television during the longer summer evenings.There you go, complete short termism. What they fail to grasp is that a switch to summer football could lead to increased crowds at the games and the actual league improving as a whole. Both of which will lead to more people watching the games on S4C when they cannot makes the games. Shocking short term-ism and selfishness from S4C there. Blogdroed, where do you stand personally on a summer move for the WPL? |
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Post by blogdroed on Jun 14, 2012 11:44:02 GMT
I don't think S4C are saying the league shouldn't move to the summer, they're just saying that they don't see it of being any major benefit to the league and that as far as scheduling is concerned then in their opinion, less people would watch Welsh Premier League football on S4C. I think Stu is making a few assumptions in response to that statement. Firstly in assuming that gates will definitley increase if there was a switch to summer football. We have no hard and fast evidence to prove this is the case, and to rubbish S4C's statement on this basis is hardly relevant - S4C are giving evidence as a broadcaster - their opinions come from a broadcasting angle. Even if there were hard evidence that crowds would increase it doesn't necessarily follow that the viewing figures would increase - it's a huge leap of faith to take. It would be interesting to hear, also, why TrendyP thinks its "gobsmacking ignorance"? Flynnfan - the evidence they give may come accross as "selfish" but ss I said above, the statement is made from a broadcasting point of view, which is the viewpoint S4C were asked to represent when giving evidence. As for short term-ism, I think its a bit unfair to have a go at S4C in this respect as S4C is the only broadcaster who has given the Welsh Premier League the credibility it deserves as our national league. PERSONALLY speaking, I'm a traditionalist and believe football is and should be a winter sport. I doubt very much that summer football would see a massive increase in crowds. The Irish clubs' successes in Europe tend to be lauded when we discuss summer football yet on the two occasions that Welsh clubs have faced Irish clubs in the Uefa Cup/Champions Cup the Welsh clubs won both - TNS beat Bohemians and Carmarthen beat Longford Town. Sgorio went over to Dublin last season to discuss summer football and to see what the Irish really thought of it and it has to be said that the reception was very mixed. Here is the stuff we posted online at the time: s4c.co.uk/sgorio/e_/2011/blogebz010411/It's an emotive issue, and in my eyes it's certainly not a magic solution to the problems the WP faces. I think the funding the LoI receives is far more relevant to the debate than summer football. |
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Post by blogdroed on Jun 14, 2012 11:50:03 GMT
I think it's pretty obvious, but given past history on this board can I make it obvious that I am NOT speaking on behalf of, nor with the authority of, S4C, Rondo or Sgorio - my remarks above are my PERSONAL understanding of the evidence given to the Senedd - evidence, most of which I have read and also sat and watched.
They are also my PERSONAL opinions as a football fan who also happens to be a football reporter.
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Post by blogdroed on Jun 18, 2012 13:23:13 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 21:32:50 GMT
Unless one already exists... Next season I'm thinking about starting a Welsh Premier league fantasy football, just a bit of fun and it might bring a little bit more interest into the Welsh Prem!  ...would you be interested in joining? |
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Post by stu on Sept 4, 2012 6:04:22 GMT
Yes, why not
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Post by Tim P on Sept 4, 2012 14:29:19 GMT
Yes, definitely. What would the budget be for the squad?  ?? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2012 14:50:55 GMT
I'll have to prepare a lot over the next few months and sort everything out, get the website up, need help from others of course to run the page, still early days so I'll keep everyone updated on it all.
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Post by llannerch on Sept 4, 2012 16:23:06 GMT
I'm in
I'll be picking Sion Edwards for sure
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Post by flynnfan on Sept 4, 2012 16:47:18 GMT
Great idea!! I'd take much more interest in the league if I had a fantasy team to follow.
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 19, 2012 19:35:30 GMT
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Post by welshiron on Nov 20, 2012 16:41:31 GMT
For me I don't think summer football is the answer as the whole pyramid system will have to fall in line which will cause big problems for many clubs, especially those sharing with cricket clubs.
For me the answer would be to suspend all games in Dec and Jan in the welsh premier and have the season finish a week or so before the european games start. This will still leave time for the relegated and promoted teams to the welsh premier to prepare for the new season.
It would also mean less games cancelled (often at great cost) and games possibly being played on better surfaces.
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Post by llannerch on Nov 21, 2012 13:00:37 GMT
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Post by flynnfan on Nov 21, 2012 15:10:58 GMT
After listening to Ann Jones AM on BBC Wales the other night, I share Dic's cynicism. The question of summer football was put to her and here reply was 'I'm a traditionalist'. And that was it. Who cares if summer football would generate more money, get bigger crowds, more media coverage, better quality football, less cancellations etc... Ann's a traditionalist! and that's what counts! I've often thought that if I won meagbucks on the lottery I'd put a big chunk into the WPL, but now I think I'd be more inclined to let the traditionalists do what they want and I'll blow the lot on coke and hookers instead... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 18:35:36 GMT
Ann is also a fan who attends games (albeit now in the Cymru Alliance) so she makes her contribution to the Welsh league system.
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Post by alarch on Nov 21, 2012 23:14:08 GMT
Does this argument need to be as polarised as winter vs summer football? Would it not be possible to have an extended mid-season break from early January (keeping the lucrative Xmas and New Year fixtures), to mid-Feb (also keeping the Easter fixtures). The season could then end in late June early July, with a short break before the start of the new season. Teams competing in Europe would have to play through - but this would not be such a bad thing, ensuring that they are up to speed and more competitive. We don't need to copy Ireland, or anyone else. We can come up with our own, unique solution. Is it to much to ask for some original thinking on this?
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Post by Tim P on Nov 22, 2012 15:08:45 GMT
Does this argument need to be as polarised as winter vs summer football? Would it not be possible to have an extended mid-season break from early January (keeping the lucrative Xmas and New Year fixtures), to mid-Feb (also keeping the Easter fixtures). The season could then end in late June early July, with a short break before the start of the new season. Teams competing in Europe would have to play through - but this would not be such a bad thing, ensuring that they are up to speed and more competitive. We don't need to copy Ireland, or anyone else. We can come up with our own, unique solution. Is it to much to ask for some original thinking on this? Interesting idea. You're right, original thinking is required. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2012 17:30:40 GMT
senedd.assemblywales.org/documents/s7161/Consultation%20Response%20-%20CELG4%20WPL%2015%20S4C.pdf
2.4 S4C does not believe that a move to summer football will greatly enhance the viewing experience. Such a move
may attract higher quality players who want to play outside of the traditional season and offer better playing
surfaces, but S4C doubts that it would raise the profile of the League within local communities as fewer people
watch television during the longer summer evenings.There you go, complete short termism. What they fail to grasp is that a switch to summer football could lead to increased crowds at the games and the actual league improving as a whole. Both of which will lead to more people watching the games on S4C when they cannot makes the games. Spot on Stu! I'm a Swans regular, so in the off season it would be brilliant to go and support the likes of Port Talbot [I've only been to see them on the 1 occasion this season] and imagine how good it would be for the younger players like Trendy said a while back perhaps from the Swans, Cardiff and Wrexham to get experience whilst playing on loan in the League from May to August and return from loans tougher players. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2013 19:32:11 GMT
Looks like this could be happening, some people have contacted me saying they're willing to make it happen fair play! Should be quite good  |
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Post by tomos35 on Apr 23, 2013 16:47:29 GMT
Great Idea, mate!
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Post by Tim P on Apr 24, 2013 19:20:58 GMT
Keep us posted.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 19:34:31 GMT
The league for now will be run by e-mail, so people send in their teams, transfers etc and everything will be updated on the online pages. Someone contacted me and has sorted everything out quality fair play! Rules and Info will be up on this page ASAP: www.facebook.com/WPLFantasyFootball |
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Post by stu on May 25, 2013 11:20:03 GMT
Three months of (relatively speaking) glorious weather with no competition for footie fans from the big boys next door. Oh well, there's always netball.  |
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