liam
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Post by liam on May 18, 2010 15:23:35 GMT
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jon6a
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Post by jon6a on May 20, 2010 14:21:04 GMT
it's ridiculous. I heard they hadn't decided the number of games yet. My dad heard it'll be 22 games ending in February with a premier cup starting after that. Anyone got any updates on this?
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Post by saints19 on May 21, 2010 16:15:02 GMT
Silly that Rhyl won't be in it. Let's hope they're back in a year.
Also, as I understand it, the number of games has yet to be decided, but the Premier Cup will be back with 12 WPL teams and the non-league four entering at a group stage, and Cardiff and Swansea at the quarter-final stage.
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the carls
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Post by jon6a on May 25, 2010 8:50:54 GMT
Yeah I've heard that too, just wish they would sort it out already.
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Post by bale-droed on Jul 14, 2010 23:51:26 GMT
how are rhyl not in it!?
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Post by llannerch on Jul 15, 2010 12:14:26 GMT
Cos they've got no friends It doesn't matter what they do to the WPL, until it moves to the summer it will never achieve anything |
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 15, 2010 13:26:05 GMT
Yeah, I'm with you llanerch- I'll find it hard to take the WPL seriously until the move to summer fotball is made. Who knows, I, and others like me might actaully go to a few WPL matches when Wrexham (or in other peoples cases Cardiff, Swansea, Newport and premiership and football league clubs) haven't got a game...
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Post by llannerch on Jul 15, 2010 21:04:31 GMT
It's other problem which leads to a lack of profile is that, even before the recent reduction in size, it consistently lacks teams in the more populated areas of Wales:
no Valleys clubs now or for a long time
no Gwent club since Cwmbran were relegated
no Cardiff based club since Inter Cardiff (do we count Grange Quins' single-season effort?)
no Newport or Bridgend based club has ever taken part
no Swansea based club has ever taken part though I suppose in the 'greater conurbation there's been the Lido, Port Talbot, Briton Ferry and Neath
Druids (or whatever they're called this week) has been the only Wrexham-based club
It can't be confined to places like Aberystwyth, Haverfordwest, Bala or Newtown for infrastructural or commercial reasons
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Post by saints19 on Jul 16, 2010 12:35:57 GMT
Excellent result for Bangor last night, 1-1 draw away is a very creditable effort. Hope they can go through where they will probably face Maritimo of Portugal.
TNS also in with a shout, they're 1-0 down with the home leg to come against Bohemians. If they won they'd play Anderlecht, which would be cool.
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 16, 2010 14:13:00 GMT
Good luck to them both, but I really got my hopes up for Llanelli last year after they beat Motherwell away, so I'm not getting to excited just yet...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2010 17:42:47 GMT
I find it rather annoying that when ever the WPL is mentioned there is invariably a call for summer football for this league from fans who support teams in other leagues.
I am very happy with the traditional season thank you very much, I have a radical idea, lets make the football conference a summer league then fans of Bangor, TNS, Aber etc can take in a game at Wrexham or Newport when we aren't playing.
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 16, 2010 21:23:29 GMT
Well gloria, if there was some way to make that work, bearing in mind that the conference is part of a pyramid structure that leads into a winter league, then I'd be all for it. That way, all the North Walian Liverpool/Everton/Man U fans would be able to get down to the racecourse more often.
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Post by llannerch on Jul 17, 2010 15:12:48 GMT
I find it rather annoying that when ever the WPL is mentioned there is invariably a call for summer football for this league from fans who support teams in other leagues. I am very happy with the traditional season thank you very much, I have a radical idea, lets make the football conference a summer league then fans of Bangor, TNS, Aber etc can take in a game at Wrexham or Newport when we aren't playing. And there were plenty of people happy with the old Northern and Southern Leagues, Combination Leagues, Welsh Leagues, etc. so why have a LoW/WPL? The reduction in numbers of clubs is a bold and radical move. By moving to the summer will allow Welsh clubs to compete on a level playing field with their European colleagues. The boost to income from improved prizemoney and broadcast revenues will be a help as would the availability of Football League players looking for loan deals over the summer (akin to players switching from rugby union to rugby league - not a lot but a steady stream) |
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Post by alrhyl on Jul 19, 2010 22:04:56 GMT
The appeal of the WPL has certainly nose-dived in my opinion with the removal of my beloved CPD Y Rhyl. I will certainly miss the Bangor games. Great sets of fans on both sides, good gates compared to the vast majority of games. Prestatyn v Y Rhyl also a great occasion. I agree with the concept of a Summer league also. The WPL teams were always struggling in Europe due to the fact they were still in pre-season mode compared to the continentals who were a few weeks into their competitive leagues and more match-fit. You'd get higher gates in the summer also in my opinion. Ah well, Y Rhyl will be back again I'm sure, once they've sorted their finances out. Sometimes you have to take a few steps back and re-group Here's hoping they'll come back stronger than before.
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Post by llannerch on Jul 20, 2010 12:21:55 GMT
The appeal of the WPL has certainly nose-dived in my opinion with the removal of my beloved CPD Y Rhyl. I will certainly miss the Bangor games. Great sets of fans on both sides, good gates compared to the vast majority of games. Prestatyn v Y Rhyl also a great occasion. I agree with the concept of a Summer league also. The WPL teams were always struggling in Europe due to the fact they were still in pre-season mode compared to the continentals who were a few weeks into their competitive leagues and more match-fit. You'd get higher gates in the summer also in my opinion. Ah well, Y Rhyl will be back again I'm sure, once they've sorted their finances out. Sometimes you have to take a few steps back and re-group Here's hoping they'll come back stronger than before. According to Rhyl's own website the failure to obtain the necessary licence was down to the withdrawal of the club's overdraft facility by it bank rhylfc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=725:the-futures-bright-the-futures-white&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=123It seems harsh to be excluded on such a technicality, but rules is rules I suppsoe |
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Post by saints19 on Jul 20, 2010 19:53:10 GMT
****ing hell, what a result for TNS tonight. Absolutely brilliant. Means they get at least two more ties in Europe (if they lose in the QR3 against Anderlecht, they still get a game in Europa League in the 4th round when Aston Villa (among others) come in.
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Post by Tim P on Jul 20, 2010 20:00:24 GMT
saints - feel free to swear if that's how you feel mate.
yes, an excellent result i think.
re the summer league Idea: i think that fans who oppose it need to check some reality. moving it to the summer is the only realistic way of increasing attendances and working towards a better league.
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 20, 2010 20:15:26 GMT
Congratulations TNS! Amazing result. Anyone know if they'll play Anderlecht at Park Hall? Or will they have to move it to the Racecourse?
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 20, 2010 20:44:38 GMT
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Post by Tim P on Jul 20, 2010 21:07:52 GMT
that is awesome!
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Post by saints19 on Jul 21, 2010 14:26:47 GMT
Sorry, I can't seem to get that, can you post the original quote? I suspect it's been taken down but it sounds pretty hilarious. And the Anderlecht game will have to be played at Wrexham as the seating requirements for the third qualifying round are increased. I suspect they would have moved it anyway as Anderlecht are likely to bring a fair number of fans over. |
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Post by robshrew on Jul 21, 2010 15:06:28 GMT
yes new saints have got anderlecht next wed 27th july at wrexham and return leg a week after that good crowd there last night 1,056 mostly irish tho plus a few got locked out which they were nt happy about
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Post by welshiron on Jul 21, 2010 15:30:04 GMT
Would summer make a difference? They have been playing summer football in Ireland for several years and it hasn't helped much
I think reducing the league and increasing the standard is going to make a big difference and hopefully this result will raise the profile.
The league does need a more widespread team base though with possibly regional football to be considered. We certainly need a team in the capital and the Valleys, it's a shame Ton pentre never fancied it or Merthyr.
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Post by saints19 on Jul 21, 2010 15:37:01 GMT
saints - feel free to swear if that's how you feel mate. Speaking of swearing, you really should read the Bohemians fans reaction to the result. I came across this thread: www.thebohs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14011&start=640&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=More swearing in that than the chavviest part of Grangetown. Bloody hilarious imo. Think this has to be my favourite quote - posted by 'el cuervo' - apparently some arguments broke out amongst the Bohemians and St. Patricks fans after the game: rofl ;D |
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Post by saints19 on Jul 21, 2010 15:41:03 GMT
Would summer make a difference? They have been playing summer football in Ireland for several years and it hasn't helped much Actually, it has. Ignore last night's result, in the time they've had summer football they've shot up the UEFA league rankings (the league of Ireland is something like 28th now, Wales are about 45th. About a decade ago I think Wales was actually ahead of Ireland.) It's true that to some extent last night's result was due, for both teams, but nonetheless given how much the managers moan about fitness levels in these ties summer football would seem to have a benefit in European games. |
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 21, 2010 21:13:35 GMT
I think the FAW report was supposed to describe Bohemians as crack Irish outfit. Looks like there might have been a typo. Bit unfortunate that the r got left out. Well funny- shame they've taken it down now. Spoilsports.
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Post by llannerch on Jul 22, 2010 11:49:44 GMT
Would summer make a difference? They have been playing summer football in Ireland for several years and it hasn't helped much Actually, it has. Ignore last night's result, in the time they've had summer football they've shot up the UEFA league rankings (the league of Ireland is something like 28th now, Wales are about 45th. About a decade ago I think Wales was actually ahead of Ireland.) It's true that to some extent last night's result was due, for both teams, but nonetheless given how much the managers moan about fitness levels in these ties summer football would seem to have a benefit in European games. And as the TNS result has shown there's opportunities in the Europa League as a fall back - so it's not just beat an Irish/Icelandic/Kazakh team and then lose to a Belgian/Swedish/Romanian team the round later. Mike Harris is saying that already the financial booty is better than what's available to WPL sides the rest of the year (and to clubs in the English pyramid). Whatever costs would be incurred by switching to the summer (and I can't think of many) would, stretching Harris's logic a bit, be covered by European prizemoney, albeit for the select few that get to Europe - but therein lies the point of a meritocracy |
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Post by llannerch on Jul 22, 2010 11:50:35 GMT
And anotehr thing, move to the summer and the quality of the pitches would improve...one of the single biggest problems that the WPL currently has
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Post by flynnfan on Jul 22, 2010 20:26:47 GMT
Just want to be the first one to say congratulations to Bangor. I thought the TNS result was amazing- this one's even better. It seems that those in the know saying the quality of the league has really improved in recent years aren't just idlly boasting after all. Still reckon a summer switch would take it up another level though.
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Post by Tim P on Jul 22, 2010 20:35:37 GMT
exactly flynny - top results, but they should look to improve from here, rather than assume that everything is okay.
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